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"Energy prices are set by players, not by OOO or GH."

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Tue, 06/21/2016 - 00:13
Fehzors-Forum-Alt's picture
Fehzors-Forum-Alt

I'm thinking we should set the price to be quite high.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10542467

After we vote Petater, who controls the energy market entirely like some sort of god, will set the price to whatever the players demand. Since there are rather limited options we'll just average the results.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 00:39
#1
Boneblinder's picture
Boneblinder
I don't get why anyone,

I don't get why anyone, except a person selling CE, would like the price to go up, while it already has. People are literally protesting for the CE prices to go down, and then I see this thread.

I don't think that poll will be satisfying to 'Petater' if everyone votes for 0 crowns, which will probably happen. Also may I know why you want the price to be set high?

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 03:33
#2
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@Fehzor

Energy prices are set by players, not by OOO or GH.

You do realize that GH actually sets the price for CE in RL money, right?

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 05:34
#3
Bonjourhippo's picture
Bonjourhippo
obvious troll thread

durp

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 08:45
#4
Fehzors-Forum-Alt's picture
Fehzors-Forum-Alt
I'm surprised that people

I'm surprised that people chose 5K over free more often than not. So far the average is about 7.1K.

@Boneblinder

"I don't get why anyone would like the price to go up"

1. "except a person selling CE"
2. I enjoy watching the F2P struggle to get anywhere, especially since it forces them on more runs.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 09:00
#5
Corporal-Shade's picture
Corporal-Shade
I'm a Wizard

I'm surprised that people chose 5K over free more often than not.

I'm surprised that people chose 35k. Seriously. Why is that even an option.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 09:13
#6
Delecated's picture
Delecated

I doubt a single person has control over the energy market. If anything, an oligarchy does; if the conspiracies are to be believed.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 09:48
#7
Bonjourhippo's picture
Bonjourhippo
There's no "organised market

There's no "organised market crime" nor single player(s) influencing the market in the slightest bits. There's just lots of misinformed players To be frank the CE price is largely irrelevant, what matters is how far and how fast players get through the game proportional to the market rates.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 10:37
#8
Fehzors-Forum-Alt's picture
Fehzors-Forum-Alt

So I shouldn't sacrifice livestock to Petater in order to get the energy prices to rise? Because they've gone up every since I started doing that which is basically proof.

Tue, 06/21/2016 - 10:43
#9
Crazee-Pi-Forum's picture
Crazee-Pi-Forum
Remember, don't shoot food.

Really? Everytime I sacrifice something to them nothing happens. Are you sure your sacrifices are going to the right person?

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 04:53
#10
Hearthstone's picture
Hearthstone

35k CR - 11 votes

Um. That's some next level sadism.

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 05:38
#11
Skiino's picture
Skiino
illuminati controls the CE

illuminati controls the CE market. Trust Me.

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 12:58
#12
Batabii's picture
Batabii

There's no "C" in "Energy", and OOO has been gone for ages.

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 14:07
#13
Enclave-Xz's picture
Enclave-Xz
Straightforward.

I voted the most expensive one for the lolz. Though when I think about it, the more cr I get when I buy energy, the more UV rolls I can do.

So make it so, 35k!

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 14:24
#14
Fehzors-Forum-Alt's picture
Fehzors-Forum-Alt

So it's at 6,964 cr per 100 energy after 140 votes.

A. I had no idea there were 140 people still reading the forums. That or half of you voted like 5 times each or something.

B. A lot of people want 5K over 0 still. Maybe it's realism kicking in, since free energy is kind of nuts?

@Batabii

What do you mean there's no C in energy? You're going to have to prove these things to me.

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 16:09
#15
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
algorithms are the solutions to all problems.

well, free energy means there is nothing to play in this game, since energy is free and you just buy everything in the supply depot. at that point it's just a number.

@Larry: if you know what we mean there is no reason in nitpicking how we abbreviate things. I think we went over this.

Thu, 06/30/2016 - 23:40
#16
Batabii's picture
Batabii

Just a note, free energy would not only make the game way too easy and boring, but it means that you can't sell any energy either, whether leftover from supply depot or from cash purchases/promotions.

Fri, 07/01/2016 - 18:39
#17
Enclave-Xz's picture
Enclave-Xz
Nothing about "easy" tbh

Free energy means the guys running the game would go bankrupt.

Tue, 07/05/2016 - 12:36
#18
Tiraid's picture
Tiraid

WHY YOU HATING ON F2P'S WE KEEP OUR MONEY.

Sun, 07/10/2016 - 09:23
#19
Ide-Az's picture
Ide-Az
?

Are there people who grief the market? Eg: sell 100E for 990k crs? :3

Sun, 07/10/2016 - 10:07
#20
Hyper-Slasher's picture
Hyper-Slasher
100E for 990k cr?!

how could you sell 100E for 990k cr? To sell you need the lowest price, else it's never gonna get sold

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 04:45
#21
Ezzi's picture
Ezzi
Never

Never forget.

http://i.imgur.com/rTa6v6S.png

Energy prices used to stay around 5k because that was how much you could make to break even from using 100 energy. Not sure if it still applies.

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 05:03
#22
Bopp's picture
Bopp
doubtful

Energy prices used to stay around 5k because that was how much you could make to break even from using 100 energy.

Running Tier 3 cost you 90 energy. If it was the FSC gate, then you could earn well over 10,000 crowns. Maybe many thousands, if you also marketed recipes that you picked up at Basil.

Also I'm not sure about the core of your idea. It seems to ignore the value of mist energy.

I find the usual explanation more convincing: Not as many players buying energy with real money, so a constrained supply of energy, so those who have it can raise prices.

Tue, 07/12/2016 - 05:32
#23
Bonjourhippo's picture
Bonjourhippo
Few exceptions were

Few exceptions were introduced every now and then with flash sales/auction house featured auctions/other random and temporary crown/CE sinks. The value of CE is just reflecting the overall usefulness of it over its supply, against the usefulness of crowns and their supply.

Wed, 07/13/2016 - 04:26
#24
Quaquonfaes's picture
Quaquonfaes

So, I've been away from quite a while, I'm a bit lost in recent affrais, who is going to set the price after voting is over and why would he?

Wed, 07/13/2016 - 08:59
#25
Artistbma's picture
Artistbma
@Ellthan No one. This thread

@Ellthan

No one. This thread is silly.

Wed, 07/13/2016 - 14:56
#26
Xaurian's picture
Xaurian

Agreed with Artistbma. All of you need to take off your tinfoil hats.

Wed, 07/13/2016 - 18:57
#27
Giftbr's picture
Giftbr
It IS set by players

Players with over 1000 hours of gameplay, that already have everything that they want, just have a lot of crowns (dont need to be that much, around 2m its a fine number, farming 30k each day for 9,5 weeks you get that, what about years without new content farming) or ofc you can get 20k energy for 50 obamas, sell it and get the 2m crowns.

With that 2m corwns you can buy the cheaper energy at the moment, that will be like 20k energy +/-, then sell the 20k energy with the cheaper price at the moment, but now, it will be more profitable to sell energy, after all, you just buy 20k energy with the cheaper price, after you are done selling the 20k energy you will be with more than 2m crowns.

If you do that right now, you will buy 20200 energy with 2m crowns and get 2.2m crowns selling it, its a +10%, but i already get +27% profit from doing that, with my poor wallet with 0.1m crowns.

That is how the energy price is so high, players with huge amount of crowns/energy are profiting with the energy trade systen, and dont even tell me that 1000+ offers to sell/buy energy at the same price its just a coincidence... I dont look in to it, but i can gess that Auction House is in the same shape...

A good solution its to set a limit of energy trade on market, to buy or to sell, like 5x to 10x each day.

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