I have an Aegis shield with UV - Increase Normal Defense: Maximum. I believe this is the most valuable shield in Spiral Knights. Do you agree? Would you say it is the most valuable single piece of gear, though? If not, what single piece of gear with what UV would be most valuable to you?
~Mawashimono (is a lover, not a fighter.)
What is the most valuable single piece of UV gear in Spiral Knights
Thu, 06/16/2011 - 22:44
Thu, 06/16/2011 - 23:06
#2
Or Elemental Defense Max on a
Or Elemental Defense Max on a Crest of Almire, perhaps.
Thu, 06/16/2011 - 23:07
#3
Not really
An Aegis is probably the lowest valuable shield on the market outside Jelly I think... the UV makes it slightly worth a little more at best.
Thu, 06/16/2011 - 23:50
#4
Pretty sure a set of Shadow
Pretty sure a set of Shadow Max Vog Cub would be the best, or a CTR Max Divine Avenger.
The avenger especially cause it costs so much to farm UV's on it.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 00:08
#5
Existing Most Valuable Gear
Does anyone actually possess and Elemental Defense Max on a Crest of Almire or a CTR Max Divine Avenger? In addition to the dream gear, who thinks they might poessess the most valuable existing piece of gear? What is it? (P. S. ~ I have a UV - Bonus Damage vs. Fiend: Very High on my Argent Peacemaker, a weapon I like way, way better than the slow Divine Avenger!
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 00:25
#6
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Is there any CTR Max DA? I thought highest is Very High? and if that's it I know at least 2 ppl who own it.
I dont think anyone has Elemental Max CoA yet tho
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 00:33
#7
Weapon UV's only come in Very
Weapon UV's only come in Very High- but level 10 5* give a bonus of Medium; therefor a lvl 10 Divine Avenger with CTR Very High will have Max as a total setting. A CTR VH DA sold for around 90k ce during the 2nd/3rd week of this games release, I believe, if anyone can be bothered to find the very dead thread.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 07:57
#8
I don't know whether or not a
I don't know whether or not a CTR Max UV exists for divine avenger, but only Very High is needed because of the level 10 heat bonus that comes with the weapon naturally.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 10:05
#9
Multiple options
As with all things there would be multiple different options...below I give a list of SOME not ALL the best options
Bombs - CTR VH - Doesnt really matter the bomb...nothing really beats a bomb with this UV as it means no special armor to arm them as quickly as possible
Cutter Line - IAS VH - The charge from a cutter is bad...just bad. And while you could make it so that you do more damage to a specific type of mob it is better to have speed with this item.
Calibur Line - CTR VH
Most other Swords - CTR VH or IAS VH - either UV puts you at an advantage
Guns - IAS VH - Anyone with a gun will tell you that while the charge on most guns is nice...the ability to fire and run away is much more advantages
Helms, Armor, & Shields - Def against Elemental MAX or Def against Piercing MAX - this is a pick and choose based on your play style. With the right combo of gear you can have a 50% Normal / 50%Elemental / 25% Piercing Defense. Yes I know that adds up to more then 100% but thats what UVs are for..and I'm basing it how far the bars reach.
Granted these are mostly personal opinions but ones most people looking for UVs seem to request.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 10:54
#10
CTR VH DA why?
Why do people value a CTR VH Divine Avenger so much? It's definitely not essential for Vanaduke runs; I usually skip it in favor of bringing a Leviathan. Spamming DA charge attacks is also not that useful. I'm just curious why people like it so much. It's definitely very rare and has the epeen factor going for it, but from a utility POV it's not that great.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 11:09
#11
Large AoE, the major monster
Large AoE, the major monster that shows up in the Citadel is weak to it, huge knockback on anything it hits keeping you from getting hit. Incredibly hard for the zombies to hit you when they can't get close enough to you to hit you.
~Gwen
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 11:48
#12
Kiting with a Valiance is
Kiting with a Valiance is also very effective for handling zombies in FSC. It also has knockback and it gives you more precision than a DA charge attack. Sure you do lose the AoE, but it's not like the DA charge attack is going to save you by itself. You probably still need someone with a Shivermist to back you up. But point taken, it has its uses, I just hope new players don't get hung up on this piece of gear when there are bunch of other cool things to try out.
BTW, it's a popular misconception that Vanaduke is weak to the DA. I think it's more accurate to say that he's not very resistant to the DA's attacks. He's actually weak to Piercing attacks.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:01
#13
It's not Vanaduke that you'll
It's not Vanaduke that you'll be using the DA on, it's the legions and legions of zombies you need to plow through before you get to him.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:09
#14
Gunning zombies is much safer
Gunning zombies is much safer than attacking them at close range. Learning to kite and shield bounce them away is still necessary to survive FSC. I just get the feeling that people are trying to make the DA sound like it's "the" uber weapon so that they can sell their unbound DAs for outrageous prices :)
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:17
#15
Guns can't knock a crowd of
Guns can't knock a crowd of zombies back. The DA can, and it does this from range.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:32
#16
When you're surrounded by
When you're surrounded by zombies, like you are in the final chamber of level 27 in the FSC, the DA charge attack isn't going to save you. In this case, for crowd control, using a Shivermist is superior. It'll freeze all the zombies around you and allow you to get into a better position to continue the fight. A CTR VH Shivermist has my vote for the single most valuable piece of UV gear. Everywhere else in the FSC a gun is also effective for dealing with zombies; maybe not as cool as the DA, but it works.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 12:49
#17
Wait, were you talking about
Wait, were you talking about valuable as in "useful," or valuable as in "expensive?"
...Either way.
The Shivermist can't kill things on its own. It'll make it a lot easier to kill stuff, but you need another weapon to actually do the dirty work. And if you wanted to actually deal damage through the tiny blast radius... you'd need to get closer to the monsters and stay there for longer than with the DA.
"A weapon that requires another weapon" doesn't seem as valuable as "a weapon that can stand alone."
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 14:14
#18
Value is subjective
The most valuable UV item is determined by opinion, but like many posts before me I'd have to go with v.high CTR DA.
The rarest UV is definitive however. A Max UV Crest of Almire is currently the rarest UV equip in the game. It requires you to beat Vanaduke 7-12 times, then get 10 levels of heat, then spend 800ce plus mats/crowns, for one roll at a UV. It also, like the DA, can never be traded (currently).
If you see someone carrying a Max UV Crest, you are looking at one lucky sumabich.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 14:21
#19
Hmdepot if your surrounded
Hmdepot if your surrounded then just attack, attack all you can cause it does some massive AoE damage when your surrounded. I know I was just surrounded by Robo Knights in my last flame arena and about killed all of them before I died doing just that. Does that mean I'll survive as long in FSC, no but You still do incredible damage with it no matter how you use it.
DA's Charge attack is very usefull at certain parts of FSC, infact it makes a good bit of it very easy. It's not necessary but when your hitting Vanaduke for about 1000 a charge I don't think you should complain and be happy you've got that UV making it that much faster( 1.5 seconds less).
The charge attack with a good UV for it's reduction is very valuable, more so then any other UV you could have on it. It's the same reason people like CTR on Caliburs, the charge attack is powerful and can and should be spammed.
I also think people put to much wieght in the fact that it's a ranged attack. Seriously hit stuff with the swing and you'll do so much more damage. With my current gear I hit Vanaduke with the swing of the charge for about 600+ before the second( quick) swing and the following ranged hits.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 16:19
#20
I didn't read all this blah
I didn't read all this blah blah.. but based on what people would pay and in my opinion the most valuable items are...
CTR VH Calibur
Faust - VHigh Slime, Gremlin (due to upcoming likely gremlin boss), CTR (niche), ASI (because you could wear skolver for JK and pretend you're wearing vog)
Avenger - VH CTR, Damage to Undead
Silversix - VH ASI, (because with Deadshot it'd be the best possible gun for FC and nobody could convince me otherwise)
That rare Kat mask that doesn't exist
That rare jelly mail/helm that doesn't exist
Something like shadow max wolver as desirable as it is can't compete with anything I listed..
But out of all I said.. I'd go with the DA CTR Very High over anything in this thread. Show an unbound one to a rich person and no telling what they'd pay. I'm pretty sure thats 2 sec charges for the best aoe charge attack in this game.
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 16:22
#21
I didn't read all this blah
double post.. its almost a triple post!!
Fri, 06/17/2011 - 16:24
#22
I didn't read all this blah
wait.. it was a triple post.. bad laggy servers are bad laggy servers? :(( c'mon Three Rings fix yo [crap].
Not even close. The most valuable UV Gear would be a CTR Very High Divine Avenger.