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Be nice to each other, fam. It's just a game so have fun with it! ( ._.)7

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Tue, 01/24/2017 - 22:53
Manlet's picture
Manlet

Just a friendly reminder to all the guys who forgot. Now carry on.

Wed, 01/25/2017 - 00:50
#1
Dats-Mah-Boi
Keep your garbage in

Keep your garbage in lockdown please.

Unless you enjoy wasting your time, then by all means continue :)

Wed, 01/25/2017 - 16:19
#2
Skiino's picture
Skiino
It's just a game, and is

It's just a game, and is funny and enjoyable when others doesn't ruin it with spam or other unbalanced bullsh*t.

Wed, 01/25/2017 - 17:25
#3
Wqkipedia's picture
Wqkipedia
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@ The peeps above

Wed, 01/25/2017 - 19:12
#4
Skiino's picture
Skiino
Yeah not a reason for

Eh that's not a reason for insulting people in chat and other childish things like many does. But looking at this title sounds like Manlet is getting hated or something. In that case just ignore

Tue, 02/07/2017 - 19:16
#5
Manlet's picture
Manlet

It's hard to ignore when it happens everyday though. Because I play by methods that are different than your typical player, certain players strongly dislike me as a person. They base who I am as a person off of my play style, which makes no sense to me. I've said it in the past and I'll reiterate it now, people should be allowed to play the game how they want to play. Once you introduce a variable that players aren't used to anymore or ones that they believe they can't overcome, they begin to give up on their ability and start to belittle others for their inability. Being frustrated at oneself for a lack of skills is fine, but berating others is something that a normal person is taught is wrong at an early age. I guess I just expect players to have some self respect and sportsmanship, but that might be too much to ask from your typical introverted teenager in this day and age.

Tue, 02/07/2017 - 19:31
#6
Wqkipedia's picture
Wqkipedia
@Manlet

Don't you spam a Rift with a flourish or acheron? I don't mind because I do that too albeit a little worse, but I guess I don't see why others are frustrated by your playstyle. I totally agree with you on the sportsmanship, I feel like this is the thing that most semi-competitive games really have in common. There is no real way to fix this other than spreading by example.

Good luck!

Tue, 02/07/2017 - 20:03
#7
Manlet's picture
Manlet

Yup, that's me. And yeah, I try to be as positive as I can, even when people are being hateful. I just think it's weird that people are so caught up in the negativity though. People who spread hate are usually pretty miserable in their actual life too, so it's kind of upsetting that Spiral Knights can't be their escape from reality. To have hate in your heart and to have no desire to channel your inner peace is just a sad sight and I see it all too often among the "elite" in this game. People should seek to be better each day, not to degenerate.

Wed, 02/08/2017 - 12:41
#8
Nitronicx
Rage of Hardcore

I'm usually fine with games. But when I rage about something, it's usually because it's difficult. Or to be more exact, when I meet an obstacle I am showing little to no progress in overcoming it. Repeating the same process over and over again without any noticable result, without any possible way of approaching the obstacle correctly, meeting a wall you think you can pass but you are not able to is source of most rage for me in games. Almost always is this hate directed towards that obstacle (difficult boss, level design) or sometimes even blaming developers for it. This rage also largely depends on expectations, at least for me. Playing a game that has word "hardcore" painted all over it is not as bad as reaching big difficulty spike in a game you consider easy.
Applying this to PvP, Lockdown veteran could easily lose his calm when he meets something he is not able to overcome in a game he think he has mastered. But being a veteran don't have to be a factor. Any player can get mad when he thinks he can't do anything to get through somebody. Of course, they both will be angry most likely on their obstacle (a player with unusual tactics). That means, despite wanting others to take it as fun, you may be the reason why it isn't fun at all. We all know it's easy to talk about respect and tolerance when you are on the winning side. That's why rank systems in bigger PvP games exist.
However, handling rage is entirely new category. There are players who constantly buy new mouses and keyboards (if not anything more expensive) just because they need to vent their anger on it. I don't remember breaking a thing out of rage ever, even when I was out of my nerves. I can imagine someone writing a hate letter to developers because their boss is too hard for him. I must agree, learning to curse somebody at most loudly in their own room and not spamming game chat would be much nicer for everybody not getting dominated by that player. But as well, if an argument outbreaks, this "dominant" should have some kind of understanding for their victims' situation and don't get mad by their insults.

Ah... I got lost by the end. Hopefuly I mentioned everything I wanted. To conclude, this is somewhat my point of view on this. I tried to be as objective as possible. If you want to bring tactic nobody is prepared for and dominate other players with it, you must be prepared that someone will sooner or later blow up in rage. While their rage is understandable, it would be nice if people could control it better. But maybe you should try to consider switching to regular tactics when people are starting getting annoyed by them. I don't really know. I don't play Lockdown or PvP in general, but I think I might've captured many things well here.

Wed, 02/08/2017 - 19:13
#9
Manlet's picture
Manlet

This is true. I come from a competitive gaming background (played fighting games and Smash competitively for over 10 years), so my outlook on overcoming obstacles in video games is just different I guess. I find joy in figuring out new strategies to my beat downs. That's actually the reason I play competitive games at all. I love seeing people playing in special ways and expressing themselves. Most gamers are nerds who can hardly have a functional conversation, so it's really great to see them able to fully express themselves in their gameplay, across all genres of gaming. Because of the way I've witnessed gaming and my own personal beliefs, I've been conditioned to believe that everyone has the potential to be better than they think, they just aren't trying hard enough. That is why I get upset/sad when players disrespect themselves to the extent of blaming their inability on another.

Anyways, thanks for the words, my friend. I sometimes forget that not everyone sees things the way that I do, so that was actually insightful. Raging is fine, but I still think that people being nasty to one another is unacceptable, especially over a video game.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 17:43
#10
Son-Of-Hades's picture
Son-Of-Hades
Lol manlet i am one of the

Lol manlet i am one of the people who hates playing with you bc your playstyle is blatantly annoying. I hardly think my skills in SK are inadequate. I don't hate playing you because you're good. You are actually terrible. I hate playing you because all you do is run away constantly to compensate for your lack of skill - you accomplish absolutely nothing in LD except waste peoples' time

Wed, 02/08/2017 - 21:15
#11
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Son-Of-Hades
and who says i have to be

and who says i have to be nice to people to have fun

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Wed, 02/08/2017 - 22:52
#12
Manlet's picture
Manlet

Because I play the game differently than you, you deem me as lesser, which is just ignorant imo. That's the weird thing about players such as yourself. If people don't play by your rules, you hold a grudge. You build such anger and resentment towards someone without even knowing who they are. You're basically judging me as a human based on the way that I decide to play a video game, which is a little bizarre and immature tbh. When I play Lockdown, I just try to bait people into doing exactly what you said, to waste their time on me. I'm trying to stall so that my comrades can support me or capture. That's my playstyle. You're a player who only wants huge damage, so maybe you just can't comprehend such tactics because you're obsessed with your rules and don't want to see any other method.

We've spoken in-game before about it and you claimed to have been someone who I don't think you actually are. I've seen how much of a bully you are to people and people like that usually aren't what you claimed to be in real life. You actually display characteristics of someone who is introverted and outcasted. Even though life might not be how you want it right now, you don't have to lash out at others, my friend. You have time to be a better person still (considering the way you behave, I'm assuming you're quite young). There's no reason to have so much hate in your heart. If you've been hurt in the past, let me know about it, man. I'd love to help you cope with your inner demons.

EDIT:
A few genuine questions I have for you if none of the above apply.
Others are welcome to give their answers too, if you're brave enough.

- Why do you feel the need to hurt people? Does it give you personal satisfaction? If so, how come? What do you gain from putting others down? How do you feel after you know that you have hurt someone who is innocent?

- If your life is great, why would you have a need to bring down others? Most people with high qualities of life have no need to harm people who are less fortunate. Occasionally, privileged young people want to see things in pain for reasons that are unknown to me. If you fall into this category, I'm genuinely curious as to why.

- Does a sense of superiority in the game give you a sense of worth in reality? In your eyes, does the quality of one's skills in video games equate to their humanly worth? If so, why? If there is a man who is incredibly skilled at SK but freeloads his way through life and another man who is unskilled at SK but is highly successful in life, which one do you think is more valuable?

- How come someone's ability in the game matters so much to you? Does it really matter? If your mother or father played the game and were bad, would you resent them? If they played in a fashion that was against your beliefs, would you cast them away? Why is there a distinction if you intend to harm people who go against your beliefs anyways?

Thu, 02/09/2017 - 08:06
#13
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Sweetsundere

Logged in just to make sure players who aren't really aware who you are know that you play your annoying way solely to annoy people. Which is worse than the people raging themselves.

If you're just doing it to see how people react for your psychology matters, sure you make good points and most part of what you're saying is true, but you're doing it terribly because you're the one that annoyed them. (You just don't trigger a person on purpose and try to help them a second after.)

People in the internet usually come here to receive what they don't get in real life or to escape a certain bad situation, so of course they are going to be pissed when you take their good time away from them, so why try to ruin them further?

It's just a game sure, but Lockdown is treated competitively just like a sport, obviously some players just want to get better and take it seriously enough to bring their feelings to the table.

Thu, 02/09/2017 - 23:28
#14
Manlet's picture
Manlet

I'm not solely trying to annoy people, I'm trying to win my games and improve myself as a player by refining that style. I enjoy dodging stuff and admire defensive play in all genres of gaming. Again, just because I play differently than people want me to play, I am being attacked. I don't find that very fair, as you all are limiting me because of your inability to kill me as easily as you want. Now, I'm not saying I'm spectacular at this game, but I do think I'm good at what I do. There are plenty of players who shut me down fairly easily (Elk, Ezho, Son, Name, etc). If they can do it with ease, I expect others to be able to do the same. Like I said previously, people only think they can't do it, but they really can if they just stop giving up.

As for the spirit of competition, what I am doing is literally exactly what these players who think this game is a competition are looking for; I'm forcing them to adapt. A competition isn't a place that you come to to relax and follow the flow chart. You enter a competition to test your mettle against others. Everyone will have different styles, be it offensive or defensive. It's up to you as a competitor to overcome the obstacle in front of you and win. Anyone who has been a part of a sports team (or gaming team for that matter) would understand these concepts. It wouldn't be a competition if it was easy.

EDIT: I misinterpreted the last bit of your post, so apologies, but I'll keep this last bit here anyways.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 00:21
#15
Nebrium's picture
Nebrium
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Giving some insight to everyone who in case have forgotten about how steadily this community is dying.

Everything in this thread is politically correct, but everyone seems to talk about themselves or for everyone instead of seeing the game for what it actually is. Specifically in lockdown, many of our players play strictly for the fun of the game which could be expressed in many forms. And it's so happens we have many veteran players left that continue to bash on newer or lesser skilled players fairly often.

You barely see one on going match, if we are lucky we see two and this isn't even in all time zones... While veterans and elitest complain about every aspect of the game, they fail to watch out for the actual community they're playing with. This isn't the golden days of lockdown where we have 8+ games going on almost all the time and we can afford to make people feel less and worthless.

As veteran players most of us fail to nurture what we have left, which are new players or fairly average players who simply can't have the grasp of taking out the potential that we deem to think it should be. If you really love the game, you wouldn't tell them "it's just a game, suck it up, get good" or continuously frustrate them if you know they're frustrated.

If you truly think players have the potential to be great, why not help them out and step down for a bit and let them shine for once. Not everyone has the learning capacity. The skill gap from a newcomer to an adequate player is veryyyy steep... I hardly see anyone give any useful advice or mercy...

I honestly haven't been playing lockdown to my enjoyment for the past year. I often want to play the game for what it should be and it's capturing points to victory. But I usually find myself not doing much of anything because we always have someone who think it's fun to make other people leave, or they're too stupid to realize it. And you guys know who you are, if not, well that answers all our questions why some of us are frustrated...

Even I get frustrated, but not because I feel less. I just sit and watch my team beat down the other team and have both sides spewing out insults at each other till someone leaves. The thought of compromise always seems to be zero to none.

and Manlet, don't you dare compare Spiral Knights to Smash, we don't even have an active player base of 2000 (wild guess) which more than 3/4 of that population doesn't care about lockdown. Don't expect the community to flourish with the conditions of what Gray Havens is, and the kind of players we have. As much as I like your mentality, I don't see it fitting for this community, if all you care about is your performance.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 01:27
#16
Retired-Zy-Chasern
this guy must be a troll,

this guy must be a troll, everything he says seems troll.

*There are plenty of players who shut me down fairly easily (Elk, Ezho, Son, Name, etc). If they can do it with ease, I expect others to be able to do the same*

you do realize this game is heavy on latency? those guys you mentioned have really low ping and you expect others to do the same? as them? when they have it alot easier compared to others? wtf? okay, ppl from AUS, Manlet here expects you to do the same. its like you completely ignore all the other factors that affect this game.

uve been playing this game for ages, you should know why some things are hated/disliked, but you chose to do to those things alot...then you wonder why ppl hate you as a knight/person, deal with it if you plan to keep playing like that. I dont understand why you post now after playing this game for so long, if ezho shut you down, then you must of been here for a while. why post now? why post this when lockdown is a dead meme. why?

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 02:31
#17
Nebrium's picture
Nebrium
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Yeah those players mentioned have GOD tier low ping...

I can't think of a name from SEA and EU to top the names you've mentioned, and you have to be ignorant to think it's an easy obstacle for SEA, EU players to go against your style. You really don't have a say if you're not out of states, I've played SK in Australia last year, it's doable to be good, but you're never going to have a good time when someone exploits your connection by using a weapon to gain a upper hand. And if they use it, it doesn't really do much to USA players because their latency is better. Horrible latency does encourage players to hit a wall and choose to never climb it because it's not worth the effort to try to achieve the impossible if the game doesn't have enough gold. #experience

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 12:41
#18
Manlet's picture
Manlet

@Neb: I can understand the sentiment of nurturing the new generation. Admittedly, that's something that I have a bad time doing since I'm so adjusted to my style that playing any other way is almost impossible. I do try my best to give proper advice to players when they PM me, however, it doesn't really help that much since the way I see the game is way different than how everyone else sees it; most just want to kill things fast. Hell, I even leave games once all the good players leave so the others can enjoy themselves. I'm not as heartless as I play, believe it or not. I only play hard when I'm faced against others who I think are very strong. That's when things are most enjoyable for me.

Like I said before, I come from a competitive gaming background, primarily in fighting games such as SFIV/UMVC3/SFV, as well as Melee and a little bit of Brawl. Back in my day, if you were bad, you either gave up and quit for good or you learned from your beatings and became better. This was back in 2005. I never got the sugarcoating treatment. Top players in my region beat me down without remorse til I couldn't stand up anymore. I had to go to the lab and figure things out on my own, and to be honest, it built up my work ethic as a human being. That's how I learned growing up, pretty much throughout my entire life. Maybe I'm just used to the old ways of learning the hard way and this generation is just soft. I dunno. I'm pretty dang old compared to most of you guys (at least 10 years older than your typical player). I think the changing times just made people expect a lot for less work.

Anyways, my point is, if people don't have the determination and drive to become better, then they can just stay at their level. They don't need to be good if they don't wanna and that's perfectly fine. To say that we have to lower ourselves so that they stand a fighting chance is an insult to them tbh. You can't build someone's heart and will power, they have to already have it.

And for the record, I was not comparing this game to Smash. I was saying that my background makes me see things differently. Any fighting game or Smash game has more depth than this game will ever have. There's no argument and both of us know this.

@Chasern: I just built this thread because I've been spectating games over the past few months, as well as played in many of them, and noticed that people are being nastier than normal. Believe me, I know about the latency thing. I have pretty decent latency (about ~70 most times). I feel sympathetic for the players who play under crappy conditions, but the fact of the matter is that they signed up for this. Everyone who registers to play Lockdown knows what they're getting themselves into. I was out of line when I compared a >100 ping player to those single digit pingers. I apologize for that. However, I do expect players with less than exceptional conditions to have the mind to figure out battle strategies to cope with their environment.

You wanna know why I run and gun? It's because I played against Ez/Sky/Remet/etc so much back in the day that I developed strategies for survival. During those times, I played on a potato PC and played with >100 ping. I had to deviate from the norm (Slash And Pray) so that I could evolve as a player. I thought outside the box to counter my difficult environment and I became good at doing what I do. The main problem I see with a lot of players is that they aren't even trying to change their ways, if they're losing. They try the same tactics over and over again and wonder why nothing is changing. Retreat is never an option in their minds and neither is deviating from the golden standard of this game - swords only. People seem to think that running away from a fight to gain better positioning or to bait is against the rules. People are too fixated on what is socially acceptable and stagnate as a result.

I have sympathy for the high ping players who make up the majority, but if they aren't even going to adapt, then that's not my problem anymore. If people have enough time to sit around and complain about their abilities, they have the time to develop them too.

This thread has derailed and for that, I apologize. This thread was designed so that people could remember to have respect for each other because creating hatred over something so petty is bad for the soul. We should all try our best to have better sportsmanship. Whether you win or lose, remember to have respect for others. There is literally no purpose to hurting another over something like a game.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 16:11
#19
Nebrium's picture
Nebrium
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Yeah ignore the lesser players who can never have the potential to be equal USA players...

You're so full of bull, you're making indirect experience comparisons with Smash and Spiral Knights man .-. People do not no life on Lockdown for 5+ hours to be professional lockdown players. We don't care what your drive and experiences with Smash or other fight genre. The bottom line is, you make people upset, and you don't care because you can't get off your high chair because your competitiveness and fun comes first before everyone's. What is hard to understand? You can't force people to be a sport, that's like telling you to stop being an a-hole to everyone even though you have no intentions being one but too bad, you're labeled as one... Will you change? Probably not... Why should these people change if you can't either... You want respect? You need to earn it, and in most cases it won't be under your terms if a lot of everything is being pressed against you.

Quit playing victim of being bullied and hated on, you're no better than the rest of us lol...

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 16:56
#20
Leekcoco's picture
Leekcoco

I feel like you made this thread to try and justify to yourself that there's nothing wrong with the way you play rather than to tell everyone anything important. Whenever I see you in the lobby I'm prepared to not have a good time because your tactics not fun to play against as someone on permanent 230-270ms ping. I agree that insulting you is pointless. Because clearly you don't have a problem with ruining the game for others with your Polaris spam. Regardless of what your reasoning is, no one really enjoys playing with you.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 18:28
#21
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Son-Of-Hades
uw0tm8

Because I play the game differently than you, you deem me as lesser, which is just ignorant imo. That's the weird thing about players such as yourself. If people don't play by your rules, you hold a grudge. You build such anger and resentment towards someone without even knowing who they are. You're basically judging me as a human based on the way that I decide to play a video game, which is a little bizarre and immature tbh. When I play Lockdown, I just try to bait people into doing exactly what you said, to waste their time on me. I'm trying to stall so that my comrades can support me or capture. That's my playstyle. You're a player who only wants huge damage, so maybe you just can't comprehend such tactics because you're obsessed with your rules and don't want to see any other method.

Ok bro, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I never said I hate you as a human being, i said i hate playing you. There is a giant gap in between those 2 things. I don't hold any anger against you lol, it's silly to think that you are that big of a figure in my life. However, if I see you in my lobby, I will not be particularly excited to chase a player all around the map just so he will stop peppering blaster bullets at me. Why would anybody prefer to play tag in a game where you are meant to kill other players and capture points. Chasing you around in lockdown is not fun, and unless you are as dense as a potato then you know that too, yet continue to play the way you do. If you are going to play in such a way that you know is annoying, then expect others to get annoyed. Also, trash talk is pretty much a fact of online gaming. Don't expect it to change.

We've spoken in-game before about it and you claimed to have been someone who I don't think you actually are. I've seen how much of a bully you are to people and people like that usually aren't what you claimed to be in real life. You actually display characteristics of someone who is introverted and outcasted. Even though life might not be how you want it right now, you don't have to lash out at others, my friend. You have time to be a better person still (considering the way you behave, I'm assuming you're quite young). There's no reason to have so much hate in your heart. If you've been hurt in the past, let me know about it, man. I'd love to help you cope with your inner demons.

I virtually never talk to you in game so I have no idea what you are talking about regarding "who I claim to be" (but fyi i am the batman), but I'll let u in on a little secret. i trash talk people who i think deserve to be put in place. i dont just lash out at random people willy nilly. In regards to your offer to "help cope with my inner demons," idek what to say lmao... In fact, YOU display characteristics of someone who is introverted and "outcasted," seeing as you think it is completely normal to suggest to a stranger that they are introverted and outcast (i hope you see how dumb it is to call someone an outcast and then offer to help lmao).

TLDR:
My reaction to this entire thread:
http://images.memes.com/meme/1103973

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 19:16
#22
Manlet's picture
Manlet

@Neb: The problem with your logic is that you're telling me to lower my quality of life so that others can feel better about themselves. That's unfair and you know it. Floyd Mayweather was the greatest defensive boxer of all time, possibly the greatest boxer period. The masses hated how he fought because he didn't meet their expectations of what a boxer should be. They failed to understand his genius. He didn't change because what he was doing was effective. Hungrybox in Melee is one of the smartest players that ever picked up a controller. He's also one of the most defensive ones. A lot of lesser players ostracize him because they can't comprehend just how incredibly difficult it is to do what he does. He's literally the only player who can do it for a reason. Chris G, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3's previous EVO Champion and debatably the greatest UMVC3 player alive, just shoots fireballs with Morrigan all day. To a normal, inexperienced player, he's just abusing overpowered tactics and is being "cheap" because what he does doesn't allow others to get near him. People give him flack because what he does is considered "lame." That said, nobody can do it like him. Nobody can place moves as intelligently or have the foresight that he has with his squad.

If these three people played, for lack of a better word, "fairly," they would not have had as much success because this is who they built themselves to be. Tell Floyd to fight like Pacman and he would have no legacy. Tell Hungrybox to play aggressive Puff and he would never break Top 8. Tell Chris G to stop shooting fireballs and he wouldn't have reigned with an iron fist. In your eyes, should these people have changed their ways to meet your criteria of what a proper "athlete" should be?

What you're telling me is to change my way of life to satisfy your ideal. You only want others to play by your rules. Once these arbitrary set of rules are broken, the only thing you can do is to ask for some mercy? That's not how a fighter should approach things. If you run into an obstacle in life, you aren't going to get to run to your mom and dad for help every time. You have to face it head-on to move forward with life. If you're struggling with school, you can't ask the teacher to change their methods or to make the curriculum easier. If your job is beating you down, you don't ask if you can have your workload lessened cuz you can't handle it. You have to face your problems head-on because things don't go away because you want them to.

Despite you being shady towards me over the past year or so (I still don't know why as you have seen that I am a relatively friendly person outside of Lockdown), I have some respect for you, Neb. You seem to have good intentions, but an unexplored outlook on how things actually work on this world. The honest truth is that I don't mean to do harm, people just interpret it as such.

@Leekcoco: This thread was created to remind people to be friendly to their fellow man because they know nothing. There's no need to be so negative toward other people's decisions in life. We all are different and unique in our own special ways. Learning to accept how others decide to live their life is something that I'm trying to teach, albeit, in a small way through Spiral Knights. Often times, people judge others without seeing the big picture. They judge the book by it's cover, or the first few chapters in some cases. Because these individuals are different, a lot of people deem them as less. I don't think that's fair. People need to learn to be understanding rather than spiteful. I know the latter is easier because people seem to naturally want to feel hatred, but try to visualize the bigger picture one of these days. Realize that not everyone views this world the same way you do.

And it's a shame how this thread became. I should have posted on my alt to avoid all the drama, as players began to attack me instead of addressing the topic at hand. As a result, I had to defend myself, while also trying to reason with you people. Had an unknown knight made this thread instead, things could have been productive. You're all young, either in your teens or early to mid-20s. You'll come to understand given more time. You're not going to listen now though. You're still going to fight me, but you'll get it eventually. I believe in all of you.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 19:33
#23
Leekcoco's picture
Leekcoco

No one is telling you how to play, this thread is simply full of responses explaining why people dislike you. You are free to play however you like and we are free react to you how we like. Yes, no one is going to respond like this if it was a random nobody knight. You got this response because of who you are and here are the reasons for it. No one attacked you or insulted you personally.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 19:38
#24
Nebrium's picture
Nebrium
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Im not going to read your sports/esports politics Manlet, your thread has been derailed.

But I did read your first two sentences. Your life can't be lowered anymore if you have already accepted you can't make others happy lol. I see no problem making other lives better even if you have to sacrifice a bit of yourself to do it. Your life must have been tough.

I'm done lol.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 19:48
#25
Manlet's picture
Manlet

@Son: I misinterpreted your message because you often times approach things with animosity. That's just the type of person you make yourself out to be. I classified you as one of the ones who hold a personal grudge, and even the way you just responded sounds like you harbor dislike toward me. I might be wrong, but I think I would be extremely accurate to assume that you genuinely dislike me as you won't give me the time of day, even outside of Lockdown. You're contradicting your words when you act in such a way.

And again, your outlook on what Lockdown should be is clouding your understanding of the way that I view things. As the others have stated, you're one of the players with above average latency. There's no need to hide the fact because it's clear as day. You're telling me to challenge you when I'm clearly at a disadvantage and I find that interesting. If you're out in the wilderness and encounter a wild animal who wants to hurt you, are you going to take it on with your bare fists to prove to yourself that you can or will you shoot it dead from a distance? I don't know you personally, but I'm going to assume that you're going with the latter. That's kind of how I approach games. My objective is to survive and to be as efficient as I can while doing so. If I have to run away, then that's just the way it has to be.

I only deemed you as the introverted type because of your actions and the way that you choose to portray yourself. You even go out of your way to make sure that people are hurt by your actions. An example of this is how you took time out of your life to make a montage video about MiniMetaKnight to spite him. For some reason, you felt the need to damage another person for no reason. You'll claim that you wanted to "put him in his place," but what does that mean? For what purpose do you feel the need to hurt people that you know nothing about? You say that the internet is a place where people will talk trash, so how come you won't be above it? Why do you choose to lower your worth by being as much of a bully as the people that you yourself know are bullies? If you're so aware, why not become better than that? Why not be a positive role model?

And for the reference, I used to work with damaged kids in another life. Kids that nobody wanted anymore. The misunderstood ones that felt pain and anger all throughout their lifetime. That's why I try to reach out to people like yourself who have hate for no reason and that's why I speculated how I believe you are. You are grown up in an environment that is favorable to you, yet, you still choose to lower yourself to these standards of feeling unnecessary anger, pain, and spite. I find sadness in the fact that privileged youth such as yourself try to bring others down when they should be trying to bring people up to their level.

@Neb: I simply don't believe that people should be satisfied with mediocrity. Being happy for being less than your potential is something I don't believe in. People need to strive to be the best they can be, not just for that singular moment of happiness.

And my life was more difficult than most others. I didn't get to grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth. I grew up extremely poor. When you grew up in the struggle, you get to see things for what they really are. You have to fight for what you want because nobody's gonna give it to you for free.

Fri, 02/10/2017 - 22:23
#26
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Son-Of-Hades
bruh we're all here to play a

bruh we're all here to play a game, not to get lectured on how to live our lives lmao. if you are so intent on helping people, go help real people face to face, not through some online computer game forum.

im done with this thread lol

Sat, 02/11/2017 - 00:25
#27
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Manlet

I already have, as I stated in my previous post. I just see people being vile online and feel like they're crying out for help so I do what I can. It just so happens that people never think there's anything wrong with themselves because it's scary to accept the facts. People don't even realize that their actions in their video games have a tendency to influence themselves in day to day life. I'll let ya go though. I seem to be hitting close to home with my questioning since you are choosing to ignore them. Hope we can put our differences aside and be friends later on down the road.

Sun, 02/12/2017 - 02:43
#28
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Manlet

Since it seems as though nobody wants to change their spiteful ways despite being exposed, I'll graveyard this. I believe that you youngins will learn your lessons with time, but for now, just do what kids do.

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