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Tips for Knights in Vana. Feel free to add your own tips!

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Thu, 03/02/2017 - 19:49
The-Judge-Xz's picture
The-Judge-Xz

Making a small list of tips for inexperienced knights since I see these mistakes extremely frequently.

On D24, in the first mob room, put the two totems on the left side to the right side. Block the left wheel with a statue. This makes it so that you don't have to worry about respawns on the left side anymore. Makes it easier to kill everything.

On D25, once you pick a route (left or right), finish your side before you switch sides. This is common etiquette that a lot of newer players do not abide to for some reason. Have some decency and do your share of the work before advancing. As someone who usually finishes 4+ rooms in PUGs, this is quite frustrating. I intend to do most of the work anyways, but I expect everyone to at least try a little bit.

In D25's lower left room, once the zombies die once, you don't have to rekill them. A strat that a lot of more experienced players use is to just kill every zombie in there once and leave, without moving the totem. Moving the totem requires time and the goal is to go fast. Plus, no use in rekilling mobs without loot.

In D25's top right room, to avoid the rocket from activating, use your dash ability right before you enter its line of sight. He won't see you and you can proceed with the fight worry-free. On the off chance that you activate him, wait for him to shoot a rocket at you and dash. The timing you want to do this is during the time where he is reloading/not attacking you. This moment is about 1 full second after he has shot his missile. If you dash during his attack animation (when he has a green aura around him) or too early after he shoots a rocket, you have failed to get him off of you. He needs to be idle during your dash or this will not work.

On D26's left route, in the first room, you have to walk all the way to the button in the top 2 rooms to spawn mobs. People often forget the upper right room spawns mobs or think the spawn is completely random. It isn't.

In the boss fight, do not water Vanaduke's mask during Phase 2 and Phase 4 while it is blue/already watered. This will cause it to glitch out the next time you water the mask from red->blue; the mask will turn red for a brief second and instantly go back to blue. This is bad. Only water the mask when it is red! Never when it's blue!

In the final phase of the boss fight, do not put out every single flame on the floor. Look for problematic ones that interfere with escape routes and take them out only. Something that some people don't know is that Vanaduke only spawns a set amount of flames. Let him bring out as many flames as he can so your group doesn't have to fight against the RNG of the flame spawns. Less RNG means that you can have a smoother battle.

Feel free to add more tips. These are just a few that I see extremely often. Just want to educate some folks.

Fri, 03/03/2017 - 06:22
#1
The-Royal-Wolfgang's picture
The-Royal-Wolfgang
This.

Also,

PSA: DO NOT THROW WATER AT THE ALREADY WET MASK IN PHASE 2 and 4! If you do, and if any teammates are near the mask when you water it again, they're in for a world of pain and fire and suffering and will die, and we all hate you >:V .

Also, if you use shivermister against Vana, you must know the pain of having someone using their really weak gun in comparison to Blitz Needle, and breaking your freeze repeatedly. Do not be this person and make every attack count and hurt, because the person who's freezing him is giving you the damn opportunity to.

Also, on depth 26, on the left path. No, you do not have to throw a water bubble in the top left corner room. Why? Because you can actually get close enough to the statue blocked by fire and pick it up without having to waste time throwing water at it. The same goes for the center water fountain surrounded by fire after the second arena on depth 27.

Also, I would advise just speedrunning through 24. 24 doesn't have much note worthy to waste time over. Also on depth 25, only do 6 rooms since you only need 6 sprites to get water. I suggest skipping the wheel barrow room on the left side and the room with a trojan and two silkwings on the right.

Fri, 03/03/2017 - 06:29
#2
The-Royal-Wolfgang's picture
The-Royal-Wolfgang
Morioh.

If you have a brandish line, which is basically the quintessential sword, on depth 27 after the second arena, you may use the charge to destroy the wheel barrows along the center, great for just speedrunning through the worthless section.

Also in addition to Judge's last tip, just try to water Vana's fire orbs because it'll allow for more damage from blitz to get past and it's good because it'll decrease the chances of you being lit on fire when he charges at you.

Sun, 03/12/2017 - 17:16
#3
Flash-Flire's picture
Flash-Flire
uh

Blizzbrand and Blitz.
Or as I call it...
Blitzbrand.

Real creative.

Mon, 03/13/2017 - 09:18
#4
Veridiandynamics's picture
Veridiandynamics
Good old times ;)

http://sk.voak.net/

Fri, 03/17/2017 - 09:03
#5
Yoursuperior's picture
Yoursuperior
Chaos set with fire max.

Chaos set with fire max. Blitz, voltedge, and don't forget 2 true love lockets.

Sat, 03/18/2017 - 04:36
#6
Leekcoco's picture
Leekcoco

Please don't bring your Rocket Hammer. You probably don't know how to use it properly.

Thu, 03/23/2017 - 09:47
#7
Storm-Traveler's picture
Storm-Traveler
for killing Vanduke just

for killing Vanduke just charge blitz after he tried to hit you and work as a team otherwise you are just waiting your time...

Thu, 03/23/2017 - 20:31
#8
Lordcalvinheins's picture
Lordcalvinheins
spam shivers

have one person on your team spamming shivers and everybody else spamming whatever they have
also remember to take out the zambies

Fri, 03/24/2017 - 00:37
#9
Fehzors-Forum-Alt's picture
Fehzors-Forum-Alt
on vana the blitz and shiver

on vana the blitz and shiver and before that you need to kill the slag and on d25 there are lots of rooms be careful ok

Fri, 03/24/2017 - 00:56
#10
Silvernickel's picture
Silvernickel
Sometimes people accuse me of Hax for this lol

-At the start of D26 when you just loaded, you have approximately 4 seconds before your knight's picture and minimap loaded and blocked the view of your top right and left screen.

During this 4 seconds you just have enough time to check if the statue spawned on the bottom right or bottom left of the map. Reducing the amount of time for a slightly faster run.

I have saved a screenshot in my steam to prove it since there are at least 3 players, throughout my 1000+ hrs of FSC, accuse me of hax ROFL.

-D25 Rocket Puppy room. If you ever decide to do this room, or get the loot in this room after someone cleared it already, hit the blue box thing to remove the obsticle and use a Maskeraith to cloak yourself, sneak past the Rocket pup and use Shield Bash without blowing your cover. You could cloak and shield bash on the first blockade too. Another alternative is use a "barrier" item and then activate cloak.

Hope this info helps, cheers.

Fri, 03/24/2017 - 06:49
#11
Storm-Traveler's picture
Storm-Traveler
are there any ways to do it

are there any ways to do it with dracon silvernicle? and also just hit the missiles with either a sealed sword family or brandish family sword it will explode but it wont hurt u if u do it right. but sealed sword is the best one to use. and I just remembered can anyone test it can you use dracon fire barrier to hit the missiles??????? I think I have done it before...

Fri, 03/24/2017 - 08:06
#12
Jessecho's picture
Jessecho
@Storm-Traveler

For damage, I'm guessing Drakon can still be effective on all the Undeads if you use an Elite Crystal (green) harness for Elemental damage. The barrier would still be effective without any damage boosts.

Vanaduke's mask resists every damage type except Normal, so the Crystal harness would make it a little harder to hurt him there, but not by much. Everyone else will probably be blitzing the mask anyway, so you won't have much to worry about.

Fri, 03/24/2017 - 10:10
#13
Storm-Traveler's picture
Storm-Traveler
@JESSECHO

still I always die in the puppy room and I almost always see good things like orbs or sparks... and all I have is a shadow harness and I am poor so It will take me like a week or so to get one anyway and does anyone want to do one in about 20 mins?

Sat, 03/25/2017 - 12:19
#14
Storm-Traveler's picture
Storm-Traveler
never bring a barb or

never bring a barb or flourish into vana just so u know tried it

Mon, 03/27/2017 - 00:10
#15
Silvernickel's picture
Silvernickel
@Storm-Traveler

with Drakon or Seraphynx just do the Dash trick to avoid getting Aggroed by the Rocket Pup.

Mon, 03/27/2017 - 06:19
#16
Storm-Traveler's picture
Storm-Traveler
still can some1 test it to do

still can some1 test it to do dracon barrier against it?

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