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Thu, 03/09/2017 - 13:51
Nitronicx

I think someone made quite a heavy attack on the wiki. That "someone" is making tons of "customer service" pages. It's still happening. He created over 3,000 pages already.

Useful links:
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limi...
- http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&redir...

Thu, 03/09/2017 - 16:39
#1
Bopp's picture
Bopp
ugh

Ugh, what a mess. Do the admins have a good way of dealing with this? Starting with blocking that user?

Sat, 03/11/2017 - 00:01
#2
Bernston
Yes.

@Bopp.

I agree. This recklessness for these unauthorized attacks are getting totally ridiculous! >:(

It's total chaos, I tell you! Disorder! Discord! Mayhem! A calamity!

Really! Already, the search log history settings were at their limit while adjusted, making it look like the log history's erased, and many more are joining in on the attack every minute on the hour! No one should make customer service logs on the wiki at all! Stuff like that should be kept strictly private between the users & their receivers! At this rate, the database will overload and a severe crash will break the Wiki's system! This has to be stopped before the Wiki faces a total breakdown and we all flip!

We even had it's restoration going well, for crying out loud!

Deeply and truly sorry for the unleashed rage and panicking whatnot. I couldn't handle one more single customer service log entry in such a short amount of time.

To everyone reading this important message and are planning to make more contributions to the Wiki, please copy and back up all information about the game quick before it's too late again! We don't want a repeat of it's database outage from last time.

@Cronus

I think this seriously needs to be stopped. If you're getting this, please end this before it gets out of hand. <:(

Sat, 03/11/2017 - 13:45
#3
Nitronicx
One to rule them all

03/11/2017 - 07:57
The problem is, it is not only one account but many new accounts spamming new pages. And most likely there's only one person or group of people who control it.

Just out of pure curiosity I tried to google "skype customer support". If you try it too, you'll probably find links to SK wiki on the first page. There's also one link to other page with similiar text to that on the wiki.

Today, I was trying to find some log containing all changes made during this attack, since Recent changes page shows only last 500 changes. And so I found the Move log (yes, he is also moving those customer support pages to other customer support pages). Of course, it's much smaller than log with all those new pages would be. In the middle of that nonsense, there were moved few regular pages to his customer support pages (that means that going to that regular page redirects you to his support page). Luckily, original text is quite easily retrievable.

For curious, moved regular pages are: The Ancient Generator/Lobby, Rise or Fall/Gate Map, Storm Driver, Style guide (+ talk page), Greaver (+ talk page), Talk:Main Page, The Blacklisted (Guild), Ironsteel knights (Guild), Concussive Firebolt (+ talk page)

More links:
- Move log: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type...
- Long pages: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special:LongPages&limit=50...
- List of new accounts for March 2017: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&userna...
- Looks like good recent changes page for this attack: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/index.php?limit=5000&tagfilter=&title=Spec...

EDIT:
Clotho just started with deleting.

Mon, 03/13/2017 - 11:07
#4
Bernston
It's good, but...

Those attacks are still going. I think they should place the wiki on temporary lockdown, temporarily suspend wiki editing, & such, until all attackers' entry logs and links have been completely deleted and the GMs implement new rules to ensure no attacks like these will happen again.

Just suggesting. We don't want the Wiki's database to be totally destroyed.

Tue, 03/14/2017 - 09:35
#5
Midnight-Violet's picture
Midnight-Violet
Yikes, and I was looking

Yikes, and I was looking forward to learning of the weapons in this box's promo, hoping this gets all sorted out soon.

Tue, 03/14/2017 - 14:23
#6
Bernston
@Midnight-Violet

Well, you can either wait until this is sorted out, or warn the other wiki editors about this predicament.

Fri, 03/17/2017 - 14:46
#7
Bernston
How's things on the wiki so far?

Last I checked, the attackers' activities seem to be dying. Think it's starting to snuff out yet?

Sun, 03/19/2017 - 05:02
#8
Tommyttr
Speaking For All Guild Leaders

(Ok so I'm not LITERALLY speaking for all guild leaders, but I think my word is still voicing for some at least) This whole dilemma is effecting how we run our guild pages, as new members are getting disgruntled that we haven't put them on the list of current members. And of course we can't input updates to guild rules, information, the like. Just wanted to make sure it's heard that this lockdown is effecting more than some may think. I know it's necessary, and I'm more than willing to wait. But I do hope this gets fixed up sooner rather than later.

(btw HAI NITRONICX! ;P)

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 12:03
#9
Nitronicx
Update

03/19/2017 - 13:03
Admins were deleting the pages and blocking the users for a few days, but the attacks kept comming back anyway. So it seems they decided to "lock" the wiki from edits for now. It is not possible to upload images, create or edit pages (it's restricted to wiki admins). Some of you may figured this out already, because this lockdown started on 14 March around 11 AM wiki time (guessing from the last spam page creation time). Sadly, admins seem to have stopped with cleaning the wiki after that, so most of the pages is still present there.

I'm afraid the attack is still going, mostly because there are still too many users created per day. It definitely isn't as much as when the attack started, but it also isn't as little as it used to be before it. I guess we can say it's slowly dying.

Also, I don't know if block on the wiki can cause something outside of it, but if yes and you are now somehow affected by it, you should consider contacting the support.

That's all for now. There probably won't happen anything anytime soon.

(Oh! Hi, Tommyttr! :] )

EDIT:
When I say I don't expect anything, suddenly something happens. Wiki was down for a short while and when it came up, I noticed that at least uploading images is allowed again. But when I checked today, the attack continued. I guess stopping validating new users would solve the problem for now, but, ah, why is someone doing this? What is he trying to achieve? I still can't see the point of this all.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 13:24
#10
Bernston
@Nitronicx

Apparently, the attackers still haven't learned their lesson after the Wiki's brief lockdown and maintenance period. Don't put the blame on GH for not overlooking the attackers bypassing unnoticed loopholes within the Wiki's regulations(cause there really are loopholes that have gone unnoticed. That's the true fact.) that gives them excuses to keep doing those attacks.

My perspective on this, the SK Wiki's supposed to be all about the game, ergo, posting info from within the game, such as the SK-related links, the images, data on enemies, bosses, etc., and the works, nothing else. Lately, the attackers that have just found out the loopholes are destroying the point to this like there's no tomorrow, & that's not limited to just the links... though, I won't go into more details, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

So, clearly, a lotta more work and cleaning needs to be done. There should be new rules & precautions that completely bars posting foreign info(cause that's all the attackers are doing, placing unauthorized foreign info.) & should only let users place info about the game from within the game only, & nothing completely unrelated to it.

You know, this should not be limited to just the Wiki's USA version... there are other languages within the Wiki that are highly vulnerable to such attacks. You never know what these attackers could do to them if such protection doesn't get implemented. They gotta protect everyone from across all countries & regions.

Without the new regulations, the Wiki's certain to be thrown into chaos. These unacceptable attacks need to be stopped once and for all.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 15:35
#11
Nitronicx
Point? Motives?

I'm not trying to blame anyone here. I may sound kinda pessimistic but that is probably because I can't express myself very well in English, what I am sorry for. But back to the point...

I can't believe that someone is doing this just for fun. If yes, why is he so persistent and wastes his resources for running bots from his computer? If he is doing this out of pure hate for this wiki, I'm not sure about it either. I think SK wiki is beautifuly looking wiki with lots of useful information (and at first glance crazy category system). There isn't really much to be angry about it. And if yes, I doubt it would reach a level when you make a bot for its "destruction".

And that's the next thing. Despite this clearly looks like an attack, it's actually doing little to no damage to the wiki. No existing pages are affected and there are no links to those spam pages; regular visitor likely won't even notice there is something going on. The exception may be few rare examples, where an existing page was edited and moved, but those were 12 pages out of what? Over 10,000 pages the attacker has created? Also, these moved pages are quite easily checked, because they have their own log. And if regular page was edited, you can always undo that edit. Other way to damage the wiki would be filling all free space on it, but in that case he could upload images. That would go way faster than making tons of text pages. So in the end, the only things affected by this attack are Random Page/Redirect button, Recent Changes page, search results for certain not-likely-to-be-searched words and also search results with Google or something similiar. And that's all.

The most likely thing I can imagine is some kind of virus, which would be causing this without PC owner's awareness. This possibility may be because attacks are happening in certain intervals, as if someone turns them on and few hours later off, and as I mentioned, I doubt someone is making the effort to constantly intentionaly attack this for a half a month. But this is just pure speculation and isn't really likely either.

So this is my question, because I seem to not understand this situation. Why is someone doing this and what does he want to achieve? I know noone can really say why and what, but I see no benefit in doing this attack.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 15:59
#12
Bernston
@Nitronicx

No big deal. Sometimes, we get too worried and we get out of control within our emotions & wrong conclusions happen, but we spring back from 'em. I'm not upset on that or anything, and no hard feelings. Don't worry.

That bit about the virus, that's what worries us.

What the attackers are trying to achieve is absolute pointless of nothingness. Basically, nothing. These attacks are completely pointless, 'cause it doesn't show anything. All it does to them is proving them to be more than just complete pests.

Honestly, there's no goal to it. I don't understand the situation, too. What I do know, is that their attacks will only accomplish nothing.

Those attackers truly need to understand the consequences of attacking the wiki with pointless nonsense & stay out of our business, in my opinion.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 16:18
#13
Nitronicx
@Bernston

In all honesty, as this attack seems completely pointless, it's also quite fascinating. I mean, to me it's quite interesting how whoever is behind this managed to pull this all off, with all that changing yet somewhat constant walls of text and sometimes even edit comment and all. But I think you're right, I just suddenly got sinked into all this questioning and worrying, maybe because the fact I can do nothing with this. Thanks.

By the way, wiki is under lockdown again.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 17:28
#14
Bernston
@Nitronicx

You're welcome. And, I know.

Tue, 03/21/2017 - 17:29
#15
Bernston
@Petater

Trust me. You don't wanna know.

Fri, 03/31/2017 - 06:11
#16
Cdst's picture
Cdst
can't seem to edit my user page to match with latest stats :/

I've tried recently to edit info about my character etc. but can't do this because it needs admin to let me... when will this change because I had been one of the people working with one ex-wiki editor that made it so much better...

Fri, 03/31/2017 - 06:29
#17
Cdst's picture
Cdst
wow I searched customer service in wiki and 500 pages...

someone is seriously dedicated to ruining the Spiral Knights Wiki putting 500 customer service pages of garbage, so yes the GM's are reducing the amount of trash on the wiki significantly, so this is promising that it will get fixed soon, I too if I could would try and remove this from the wiki. :)

Fri, 03/31/2017 - 08:49
#18
Bernston
@Cdst

Yeah. The brief moment of editing the wiki, after the 1st lockdown was over, didn't last long, as the attackers who tried to overload it with trash... well, they still haven't learned their lesson from before, seizing the repeat opportunity to attack the wiki again. Clearly, they should not go off so easily.

Try to show mercy in a way to the enemy responsible for the catastrophe, even a very small single droplet of it, they'll always use it to strike back every time, stronger than ever.

Wouldn't we all? But doing it requires all the training and standards of a real GM, and all that's no small task. You'd have to be prepared for this if you'd be interested in it. Lots o' training and discipline it takes.

I, on the other hand, prefer to keep adventuring with the fellow Knights and do occasional chronicling in the Wiki. I've been waiting word about the situation, but they're very busy fixing it.

We can only wait to ensure they really close the chapter on this, for good this time.

Sat, 04/01/2017 - 10:42
#19
Ogygus's picture
Ogygus
To be honest we have to leave

To be honest we have to leave the whole Wiki to developers. Nobody wants to work if he knows that he may loose his work or wait month to continue.

Tue, 04/04/2017 - 14:10
#20
Bernston
@Ogygus

I get that you're concerned about the Wiki's state since the attack, but Grey Havens has been working very hard to resolve it. Honestly, after this, we should have some new rules & updated security protocols in the Wiki to make sure no attacker can make workarounds to them.

We can only wait now, knowing GH's work will ensure the Wiki's safety is in greater hands once more.

Wed, 04/05/2017 - 09:12
#21
Ogygus's picture
Ogygus
So i guess that GH lost my

So i guess that GH lost my images forever, like Steam inventory icons. Anyway i don't another reason to remove my previous post.

Wed, 04/05/2017 - 20:48
#22
Petater's picture
Petater
k

Are we now removing comments pointing out a valid concern that the wiki software was out of date probably causing bots to ruin it?

I see the wiki got updated to a more recent version after I commented here, but having a thanks for pointing it out instead of censoring that it was out of date to begin with would have been the proper route.

If you don't want people to see the wiki software version, then remove http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Special:Version

I might as well tell you to update the PHP version as well, or that the PHP version running implies a severely out of date copy of Ubuntu running the server.

Wed, 04/05/2017 - 21:54
#23
Ogygus's picture
Ogygus
@Petater

I am talking about media server. One year ago it crashed and we lost all images. Then i restored almost everything important. And not so long time ago GH decided to bring back lost images. What did they do? They replaced new media server by old one. So everything new disappeared (example: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Chess_Mini_Box ).

Wed, 04/05/2017 - 22:24
#24
Petater's picture
Petater
@Ogygus

I'm not talking about that. Note someone referencing me in an earlier comment with my comment missing before it.

Thu, 04/06/2017 - 08:02
#25
Cronus's picture
Cronus
Game Master
As some have noted, the wiki

As some have noted, the wiki has recently had a number of spam accounts spamming the pages. Steps have been, and are being, taken to prevent this. However some spam will likely still happen.

To those of you who reported this via request in game and/or attempted to help via editing the wiki (before we shut your editing ability down), thank you! We appreciate your efforts and hope that we now have some measures in place to prevent the scale of spam we were seeing. The wiki editors generally exemplify the best parts of our community in their desire to help communicate about the game and make a positive impact on others. Your work does not go unnoticed.

As noted, there were thousands of new pages created/edited and we've already removed a large number of them. In doing so, it's possible that we accidentally removed something that was legitimate or something needs to be moved to restore it. While editors should now be able to edit again, we've decided to remove the ability of editors to move pages to prevent pages from being moved inappropriately.

If you come across a page that needs an admin to move it or restore it, please post a link in this thread here:
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/117683

I'm going to go ahead and lock this as it has derailed away from the initial report and the issue is known. Please don't hesitate to let us know if other issues come up.

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