Spiral Knights - Greatswords/Parrying Swords, but not exactly what'cha'd think.

Greatswords/Parrying Swords, but not exactly what'cha'd think.

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Wed, 04/26/2017 - 13:17

Elmotehdestroyer

Greetings, I am here to suggest, and subsequently get a blitzneedle's worth of holes poked into my idea.

What idea? Greatswords or I guess they'd act like a form of parrying sword.....It was in the topic's title.

Alright, just hear me out. This isn't an idea for a normal type of weapon, this is an idea for a shield replacement.

---How would it work?---
It would be equipped in place of a shield and serve as a way to give people a form of risk/reward gameplay.

When a player would press the defend button, a knight would pull the sword off their back and do a very short duration block. If the block would intercept an attack it would be deflected and a counter attack would be unleashed, with some I-frames. This 'parry' would have a short cool-down in between, getting fully reset if you successfully parry an attack.(In the way as, if you parry something, you can do it again.)

---What about shield bash? Or shield bump?---
The shield bash button would be replaced with a big ol' attack with said greatsword. And shield bump? You'd still do that, just at the end of the 'parry' as to not fling away the parry bait that you worked so hard to get.

---How would this work against ranged attacks?---
Similarly but without the counter attack.

---How would it be handled on our characters? Just holding something in our offhand?---
Nah, I'd be on your back, ready to be pulled off by your now naked off-hand.
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That's the idea in a nutshell. Of course i can't stop y'all from giving your thoughts. And would like to know how many flaws my idea has.

Wed, 04/26/2017 - 15:22

Corporal-Shade

Hello Darkness, my Old Friend.

Nah, too heavy. We already have enough issues with swinging a thwack hammer.

Wed, 04/26/2017 - 15:45

Elmotehdestroyer

Understandable.

I can get that. This idea was to be kinda over the top, I suppose it wouldnt need to be truly a greatsword, I was just trying to find a reason to not carry it in your offhand all the time.

Thu, 04/27/2017 - 11:52

Fangel

hmm

I love the idea of having parrying blades as a shield. Just let it act as a regular shield (shield health, breaks, takes hits), and have it counter attack on every hit. After it breaks it no longer prevents damage on hit and no longer counter attacks when hit.

Basically, I think taking the timing aspect out and allowing us to weaponize shields would be a really cool idea. For other classes, we could have mirror shields (reflects projectiles), and reactive shields (spawns an explosion around the player once the shield is broken). Unique shield bashes could also be in order, but letting our shield classes be more interesting would both be great for shield play, but be a more original form of dual-wielding.

Mon, 05/01/2017 - 14:50

Elmotehdestroyer

And Interesting idea.

You really like your shield ideas lol. I've seen them on other threads.

The reason I think it would be good to have it as a cooldown is that. Normally, when i block an attack its a single attack, rarely do i block two different attacks subsequently. It might just be my playstyle that has influenced that concept, but i dont see any flaws in the logic behind it. Thanks for the feedback.

Mon, 05/01/2017 - 21:04

Fangel

The problem with timing is heavily ping. Some players have to prepare themselves for an inevitable hit, others use shield to slowly move around places or to walk through a hazardous area. While they could use another shield in those places, I feel that timing a parry is a very common practice in video games, and Spiral Knights seems to want to do things differently while keeping it familiar.

Shield classes also allows for more interesting shield ideas. A flourish "parrying blade" could have the flourish charge attack as its shield bash, for example. You might even find a neat mirror shield that has a gun built into it, and has a pressure plate on it that fires the gun when hit! Lots of cool ideas that can come out of the classes.

I'm totally with you on the idea, just have a different vision of how it would play out. :)

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