Spiral Knights - Apparently someone is going around scamming, and has garnered almost 200K CE from me and another.

Apparently someone is going around scamming, and has garnered almost 200K CE from me and another.

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Thu, 05/25/2017 - 10:04

Fehzors-Forum-Alt

I made a thread a couple days ago and then thought you know this is just me I shouldn't be dramatic yea it sucks but oh well, so I graveyarded it... but apparently two other relatively high-up-there players, you know the ones, fell for the same thing from the same exact person-

1.) Some guy, who I know better than to name gets you to add them on Discord
2.) Said player talks you into a deal, has some excuse, drags it out until you say yes...
3.) Said player deletes the account you just mailed
4.) Said player says his computer stopped working, gives excuses, refuses to give you anything back

Greetings,

I'm very sorry that this happened to you. Please take note that if you believe that you've been the victim of a scam, you need to file a complaint against that player. We do care, but we cannot proceed without something other than a verbal report. A complaint will send us the chat logs so we can properly evaluate the situation, but it is important to send them right away. However, we are not able to accept screenshots or external chat logs as evidence- we can only act upon based on the information within our own system.

While we do investigate and take action against those who scam, we cannot undo trades between your knight and others nor can we enforce verbal agreements. We have a trading system in place in order to protect players from scammers. Players who choose to trade outside that system do so at their own risk. Because we cannot verify the terms of a trade outside the trading window, we consider all trades final.

We certainly look into these issues and punish the player if we can confirm a scam, but we can't guarantee refunds for these types of trades where items are given away. Always be sure to trade safely to avoid such issues!

5.) Good game, you lose, good day sir.

So I talked to someone else. That someone else lost 120K CE worth of items/energy, compared to my 75K CE. Now, the scammer in question was banned before for offensive chat, and again, I can't say who it was, but they ban evaded and are back in action.

Anyone have any suggestions for action I can take?

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 10:27

Goofio

Do they have a Steam ID?

Do they have a Steam ID? If they do, you could report it to SteamRep. With the addition of the Steam Community Market, SteamRep isn't as effective as it used to be, but it could at least make trading harder for them.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 10:24

Dats-Mah-Boi

"Hey, can I borrow 75k E for

"Hey, can I borrow 75k E for this striker? I KNOW i just met you, but pls?"
"HURRR, OKAY"
"Thnx!"

Here's an idea, don't lend $100-200 to online people? I feel no pity for peole who get outplayed and outsmarted by basic scam techniques.

Your point #2.) Said player talks you into a deal, has some excuse, drags it out until you say yes...

That's your problem. You let yourself get bent over and trampled on. Learn to say no.

You submitted your ticket, you did what you could. Hope for the best.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 10:46

Nonplayer

...

All you can do is submit a ticket or file a complaint against the player in question, but really, letting them convince you to conduct this transaction over Discord really screwed you. But it's nice of you to at least try to warn other people.

I'm... not sure why you're trying to compare this to pedophiles at a pool though, so maybe not do that.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 15:24

Ibuyitems

Well guys guys, please if you...

Well guys guys, please if you do anything in outside spiral knights its on your own risk, either you 100% sure that the other guy wont scam you, or you're just **** to do it, Apparently the Sk Support team doesnt even reply! as i tried to mail them several times for a scam happened 100% inside sk with proofs from chat logs, but bleh none replys.

Cause even if im a merchant (might not be that big) i also get scammed =p they're everywhere. Take care and follow those:

1- Never trust anyone.
2- Use common logic.
3- Make sure that you know when you close the trade window the deal is 100% fair for both sides and its done.
4- Never do Take now, pay later.
5- Dont give loans!!!!<

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 15:26

Ibuyitems

Just post the scammers name.

Actually nvm xD the scammers the same one who scammed Ragga-Prince and Hunterxxy, he already tried to scam a friend of mine in SK by making him send his mixer in mail and boss will send back rose aura,
But it was actually a scam. he already scammed Suriyu as i heard, And some others, lel rip.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 16:13

Skepticraven

↑↑↓↓←→←→ba

Our guild has noticed a recent wave of dishonest players. 2 in the past month when compared to ~3+ years of no one.
Not on the same value scale as the merchants, but we've found that time is the best prevention metric. The more impatient someone is, the more likely something fishy is occurring.

Take your time with things of value.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 18:04

Fehzors-Forum-Alt

I'm really surprised that the GMs refuse to do anything about this. That makes 4 and if Hunter/Ragga are on the same scale as me/Suriyu then 400K CE, since Hunter too. Chawyy posted his name and I would too but that's against the rules and I don't want to get banned because lets face it- Scamming 2-400K CE worth of stuff from us isn't nearly as bad as the shame he would feel if we named him.

Thu, 05/25/2017 - 20:54

Sciger

Wow, sorry to hear about being scammed. :x I've been scammed before too, though that was in TF2 and I wasn't familiar with the 'pose as a trusted middleman' scam at the time, felt so stupid after but at least I got my crap back in the end.

Will note that there's quite a scammer on the run right now, be extra careful with any deals that are even remotely fishy.

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 00:46

Putkisen-Seta

Eh.

Why would you just mail someone your stuff?

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 02:49

#10

Bonjourhippo

Had a similar case a few

Had a similar case a few weeks back of a couple rare accessories trusted for preview to a guildmate not coming back in my hands. That's not happened to me in ages but there's always a significant risk with trusting someone with any of your goods over the internet. GMs hands are really tied if those conversations you've had were over Discord as well. Best keep all chats local to Spiral Knights, that'll feed a chat log GMs can trust.

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 11:30

#11

Krissychu

Same guy?

Interesting. I'm having a similar situation that started today. I changed my ign a few weeks ago (from Krissychu) and moments after, the original was taken. No shocker there, thought it was a friend or guild mate but no one came forward. Today I got a message from that stolen ign, blackmailing me. That if I didn't send them 1mil CR by the end of the month I will not hear from them or get my original ign back. Maybe this is the same person/people? I reported the mail and sent a support ticket it letting them know. I have not sent any CR.

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 11:53

#12

Bopp

how did s/he know?

I changed my ign a few weeks ago (from Krissychu) and moments after, the original was taken.

Is there a public record of abandoned knight names? If not, then how did the scammer know to grab yours so quickly? (Or is there some culture, of which I am not a member, in which Krissychu is a super-common name?)

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 12:25

#13

Fehzors-Forum-Alt

"Why would you just mail someone your stuff?"

You have to understand how difficult high end trading is to make happen, because of how excruciatingly rare these items are thanks to the prize box system. I was looking for a blossom aura, and the one I was trading for may well have been the only one on the market especially at an acceptable price. When that happens you typically want to jump on it.

Fri, 05/26/2017 - 15:08

#14

Lordcalvinheins

blackmail?

why are this stuff suddenly happening? this has never seemed to be a problem before, so whats going on?
(this seems worrying...)

Tue, 05/30/2017 - 17:47

#15

Shadow-Turtle

knights in this game

That moment when some knights are just not so knightly. For shame.

Tue, 05/30/2017 - 21:57

#16

Carbon-Jm

I got scammed myself a couple years back, out of ~3kce. Hardly anything, compared to the above amounts, but it was still scam. :/

Don't be nice, people.

I suggest mailing times to get on if you want to do high level trades, so you ensure that you won't be scammed. Also, ouch Krissy/Chum, that's terrible. Whoever did that had to be one of your "friends" or "guildmates," that decided to do that, but you can't really tell, can you. :/

Mon, 06/05/2017 - 10:28

#17

Cronus

Game Master

If you feel you have been

If you feel you have been scammed, you should file a complaint. With that being said, you should never send anything to a player in advance. The trade window exists for a reason and going around that opens you to risk.

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