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Offensive Bombers

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Sun, 05/06/2018 - 11:04

Zero-Chill

What's the highest damage you've seen a PURE bomber get WITHOUT using any haze bombs or sidearms? I want to know to see where do I rank amongst the elite bombers with my highscore of 15,007 damage. I was so eager to get 20,000 one day but then I just couldn't due to my ping and that people kept spamming me with pulsars so I gave up on bombing but I'm planning to return as soon as I craft a few bombs.

My loadout was:

Mercurial Demo Set (lvl4)
2 Elite Boom Modules
Dark Briar Barrage (lvl10)
Nitronome (lvl10)
Celestial Vortex (lvl10)
Electron Vortex (lvl10)

Note that I was recon, none of my gear or weapons had any unique variants and that it wasn't staged in a fair match.

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 12:26

Zero-Chill

meow

Wow, doesn't anybody have interest in PvP bombers anymore?

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 13:21

Traevelliath

The only time I PvP bomb is with status bombs. Very rarely do I ever want to damage them with a DBB when I can just shoot them instead. Very rarely do I ever want to deny an area with a Vortex when I can just use a status bomb instead.

I'm a recon at heart, and I love my bombs, but I never try to get huge damage numbers out of them. All the best damage bombers that I've seen used the sacred holy ancient Radiant Sun Shards before their rework/ruining. Heck, I had a buddy who loved to go Striker RSS bombing, which was fun to watch. Since then tho, I simply don't bother at all. I find disabling with status bombs and then following up with swords to be more fun anyways than just bomb spam.

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 13:59

Zero-Chill

meow

TBH I have ALWAYS found more fun in trapping 1-2 players in a couple Electron Vortexes then finishing them off while they're shocked with Dark Briar Barrage. And I've always found the hazes to be just plain annoying and very boring to use, I only used them when people spammed me with pulsars or haze bombs though just to teach them that spamming is annoying. During GvG's though it was extremely hilarious to see people getting put to sleep + stunned + shocked + frozen at the same time.

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 14:09

Sir-Pandabear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y39Mi70PpIA

I made this video a long time ago to demonstrate that Lockdown damage is not about your skill, but your opponent's lack of it. If you wish to prove it wrong, beat my 72k shard bomb damage.

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 15:44

Zero-Chill

meow

Zeddy, you already said in previous threads that it was staged -.- and I've watched this video a lot and TBH it's getting boring. And no, not all your damage comes from your opponent's lack of skill it also depends on your skill. Also for most part I find lockdown not even about skill but rather ping, I went for bombing back then because I had a very bad connection in LD and the delay wouldn't stop me there. I was wrong, my dash kept getting cancelled and I died a lot because of this. But I got used to it. Also I've played against some good players and beat them with bombs surprisingly. And even sometimes I went cloaked to a bunch of players standing on a point and appeared for like a single second before I put on a DBB then cloak again, it's very fun to see people panic from these surprise attacks even though they're relatively slow. Strategy is very important too. Regarding the ping part, I've seen players who obviously got no idea about what they're doing (I won't mention names) but their ping allows them to get above 15k almost every single match. An example of this is some guy who runs around with Skolver and Acheron, he uses AT and just spams full combos at random directions. He hits me from almost 6-8 tiles away with Acheron, yet it looks like he doesn't even know what he's doing, when against another low-ping player though, he'd die almost instantly.

Tue, 05/08/2018 - 17:42

Holladolla

The only way you're going to rack up damage as a bomber is if you get a lobby full of potatoes/blueberries that run straight into your bombs like in Sir-Pandabear's video, that also goes for every other class/weapon. lockdown + damage = lol.

Sat, 05/12/2018 - 23:59

Fangel

there's issues

The biggest issue is that bombs have a nice little radius of "guess I won't walk there". Bombs also do not do much damage to single targets, which guns and swords are better at. What this amounts to is not many people using bombs, and when people do use bombs they are often easily countered. Bombs that act as hazards, such as mist bombs and vortex bombs, are much more effective, however they do pitiful if any damage.

The only time you'll see a pure bomber with damage scores over 5k is when they are against players that both don't play the objective and don't look at the very obvious warning line that bombs have. Players who don't play the objective rarely don't know a bomb counter, and those who don't see the warning lines are often players without health trinkets, therefore reducing overall damage dealt (flashbacks to a 4* recon who I insta-gibbed with my big angry bomb several times... it made me chuckle but I felt kinda bad).

At the end of the day, I do agree with Zeddy that damage scores depend on the enemy you're up against rather than any personal skill. Watching damage hogs get under 10k damage because the other team doesn't have health trinkets is always a great feeling, but that doesn't mean they performed any worse.

Sun, 05/13/2018 - 07:06

Zero-Chill

meow

Bombs that act as hazards, such as mist bombs and vortex bombs, are much more effective, however they do pitiful if any damage.

I scored 7k with level 4 heat AoA + VT + sleep once which is my highest score with mist only, usual was around 3-6k. I've seen a guy before get 6k damage with celestial vortex and obsidian crusher once. I could kill more than one player at a time with vortex bombs if they just ran into one in my field then they're pretty much dead cause I always place 3 at a time. Surprisingly, these players who usually get caught in my vortex field are usually the players you deem as "skillful". They just run into action without having a plan except killing everything. Some people are smart enough to just leave me cap cause they're gonna end up dead anyway and some are persistent and these are the fun people to play with, I do not only stay in a place and spam bombs, I chase players with them, even in a 1on1 I can sometimes survive and corner them and kill them if they're not careful enough. Some few people are able to get me between my bombs which is very rare but very fun to see. They are usually either people with extremely low ping or extremely high skill level (or both lol). Some people dash into my vortex and do a GF combo in my direction and deal a significant amount of damage. But I've adapted to this and learned to dodge it.

The only time you'll see a pure bomber with damage scores over 5k is when they are against players that both don't play the objective...

That's actually where I get most damage lol.

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