Spiral Knights - Nitronicx needs help with... Seedling Samples (Monster Pockets)

Nitronicx needs help with... Seedling Samples (Monster Pockets)

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Tue, 08/28/2018 - 08:33

Nitronicx

I've got another problem and I don't know how should I solve it. Once again it has to do with organization on the wiki.

Seedling Sample is a Monster Pocket. However, it is not Monster Pocket, because it's Seedling Sample. Where does it belong then? Should it be added to Monster Pocket page despite it isn't called "Seedling Sample Monster Pocket" or is it worthy of brand new page named Seedling Sample despite it's essentially Monster Pocket?

I'm thinking about a variant that somewhat involves both of these things. I want to create the Seedling Sample page, but also add one collective entry to the Monster Pocket page that links to the Seedling Sample page. It would look like this. But I still need to hear your input. Should Seedling Samples be entirely on one page? Is my solution OK? Should I avoid making collective entries and put such stuff in Notes section?

I also have one side question. Should I keep asking these questions here or rather on Discord? Because while these questions clearly belong here, I'm pretty much asking the only one person that regularly visits and replies in this forum. Other option is asking in General Discussion but I feel like there's little difference between going on Discord. If forum remains an option, I'd like to keep using this thread.

Tue, 08/28/2018 - 18:06

Bopp

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I check this forum every day. But we might be the only two. You could try asking your next question on Discord, to see whether you get better responses. Meanwhile...

I know almost nothing about the cosmetic side of Spiral Knights. So there's no content knowledge backing up my response to this one. That said...

It seems that there were four kinds of monster pocket, and now there are four kinds of seedling sample monster pocket, for eight total. I would just add them all to one page. That is, I would follow my intuition about what they are, not what they're called.

But your solution of putting seedling samples on their own page and linking from monster pocket is also fine. At the risk of repeating myself: Getting content onto the wiki is more important than perfectly organizing that content.

Thu, 08/30/2018 - 05:07

Skepticraven

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My vote is that they belong alongside the monster pockets on one page, but both solutions would work.

As for asking discord, go for it -- all my info is 2ndhand, but they do appear more responsive... especially on these types of topics. Major things might be better placed on both locations, since the comments on the forums are a bit more permanent/out in the open for everyone to read (in contrast to discord where they're public but are prone to getting lost). According to some players I know on the discord channel, there is a big disconnect between the forums, the wiki, and the unofficial discord channel. It's not a bad thing, but it does seem to split the community by their relative activity level.

Fri, 08/31/2018 - 05:05

Nitronicx

Thanks!

Thanks for your tips! I won't complicate it and just put them with other monster pockets then.

Regarding Discord, I actually tried to ask once and I was happy with the answer. But here I could get answer from some (ex-)wiki editors (I had mainly Bopp in mind) who might have better knowledge of wiki guidelines than me. But it seems these topics doesn't have any "defined" answer, so I guess I'll bother Discord community with my next problems.

Fri, 08/31/2018 - 12:55

Bopp

organization vs. content

Wiki editors (in my experience on Wikipedia and Spiral Knights) tend to fall into two types. Or rather they are a combination of two ingredients, in varying amounts.

The first type likes to keep the wiki organized and regular. They look for efficiencies such as templates. They spend a lot of time thinking about uniformity, policy, and "the right way to do it". They make gazillions of small edits as they reorganize and optimize. Novaster exemplified this type (which is not to say that s/he never contributed content).

The second type is primarily interested in content. They view every wiki article as being in a perpetual state of revision, so why try to perfect it prematurely? They just want to get the raw material up there now, even if it will have to be cleaned up later. They tend to make large edits, but not many of them. I exemplify this type (although I sometimes organize a bit).

This is all my way of explaining why I tend to answer organizational questions with, "Just get the content posted anywhere, and clean it up later." Depending on your own personality, this response might not be useful to you. :)

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Nitronicx needs help with... Seedling Samples (Monster Pockets)