I recently took my dvs into a T3 fiend area and holy crap it's good for dealing with greavers.
Each hit will interrupt, which is great. I'm surprised how much of a breeze it is.
Just thought this was cool.
DVS is AMAZING for greavers!!
Fri, 01/10/2020 - 07:14
Sun, 01/12/2020 - 16:49
#2
Not a problem
Actually that is not an issue with DVS: the ones in front of you will get interrupted and get pushed where you aim the combo. Because this makes your knight move a certain direction, all greavers you haven't hit yet will line up behind you, and you can turn around and hit them to interrupt their attack. DVS is very good at dealing with fiends and its damage is higher than Flourish. In a corner the flourish will do better, but if you let yourself get cornered by 12 greavers with DVS and they've already dropped their haze on the ground, it's because you made a mistake. Nothing that a dash or pet ability can't help you get out of though.
My top 3 preferred swords to fight fiends probably goes like this for me... WRH because it's just brutal, then DVS, and then Blitz
Sun, 01/12/2020 - 19:32
#3
greavers all around
the ones in front of you will get interrupted and get pushed where you aim the combo. Because this makes your knight move a certain direction, all greavers you haven't hit yet will line up behind you, and you can turn around and hit them to interrupt their attack.
I'd like to see video of that technique, if you get a chance.
its damage is higher than Flourish
For complete combos, see the Lancer Knightz data. With small damage bonus, Final Flourish strongly out-damages DVS. With large damage bonus, the two are similar. (FF wins by a little, but only ignoring DVS's poison.) It's not clear to me how much of the combo you're going to do. Also, it's sad that FF's length was nerfed for the sake of Lockdown, but here we are.
My top 3 preferred swords to fight fiends probably goes like this for me... WRH because it's just brutal, then DVS, and then Blitz
Maybe you're trolling me, or maybe it's just a typo or joke to say that Blitz Needle is a sword.
Mon, 01/13/2020 - 16:51
#4
It's true that FF can also be used as a side weapon without damage bonus, but since the thread was about DVS I only considered max damage bonus loadouts. We agree that DVS is likely to deal more DPS at max dmg bonus (on d23 FF deals 327 to fiends, 338 when they're poisoned by DVS; DVS deals 192+112 = 304 per swing against fiends that it poisoned, but it is faster).
That technique probably sounds more complex when all in all I just spam the combo and turn around to hit any greavers that are about to finish their attack and hit me. I just wanted to describe that, while you might get surrounded and attacked from all sides when you use attacks that make you less mobile (like shield canceling flourish hits), with a sword that makes you move (like DVS) you'll break through on 1 side and have the rest chase behind you, so you only have to hit directly in front and directly behind you to interrupt them all. Though in practice, this is usually when fighting the 3-4 greaver waves earlier in arenas, while the 12 greaver waves I deal with using electron vortex first, and then DVS to finish them.
My top 3 swords are WRH DVS FF, but I like to use Blitz too. For big groups I like using DBB as well. I don't enjoy shield-canceling FF so for random fiends I'd prefer using WRh DVS or Blitz. Right now my favorite flavor is definitely WRH, after using only DVS for a very long time. When I use FF it's usually to mess around with the charge attack
Greavers are pretty easy to interrupt, but I agree with you that the sheer speed of DVS must be nice for interrupting them.
The one problem I foresee with DVS is that the swing is narrow. In contrast, a piercing sword has a wide swing that can interrupt a wide swathe of grievers. If you're backed into a corner and swinging a piercing sword out of the corner, then greavers cannot hurt you.