Participating in bid wars is so annoying now! It's the player's fault if they don't realize they were outbid. Grey Havens, please!
Revert Auction House PLEASE
can we just fix neut damage instead this is kinda something nobody wants, or shadow lairs please remove depth 40 tier 4 statum 8 scaling please
Yeah uh fix game please revert shadow lairs
no one wants or wanted this
Are you serious? More mail spam is something that nobody asked for! Bid wars are going to be way too tedious now...
Why was this even considered as a good change? Revert this right now, PLEASE
Please undo this it is extremely annoying to have to deal with reclaiming crowns in the middle of bidding on an item near its end :(
yah this will just be extra clicky for no reason like srsly if u miss a bid that's on you fr.
also i want to buy grey tailed helm
pls rerun grey prize box or someone sell me this helm thanks pce
Terrible change! This is only gonna result in players mails being spammed to all heck, possibly losing important mail in the mess of spam by accident. Please revert this!
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WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA? NO ONE BENEFITS FROM THIS!
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I can get like, bids over 100k, but this kind of crashes incentive to use the auction house for bidding en mass. If anything this would be a good feature if it could be turned on or off, or we had a "collect all" button in the mail, but with the current mail system this just floods our mail and prevents us from seeing actual mail from other players, which is often way more important than knowing you got outbid on 7 warp dusts for 200 crowns each.
Nobody asked for this, nobody needed this. Please for the love of GOD revert this change.
EVERYTHING IS GREEN I LOVE THIS UPDATE PLEASE KEEP MORE LIKE THIS COMING
hey GH if you decide to revert this update please GOD can you revert the update where you made sls take 2-3 times as long with no increased reward at all? THANKS
What you are all missing is the possible positive effect this change had. I think it might have something to do with the fact that ah glitched and didnt give cr back to the outbid player. You're all very quick to stomp on Grey Havens.
so many things that could be fixed... but no. instead GH decides to break things
The old system was fine as-is. People are yelling due to this being the only real updated in a long time now, that serves no real purpose.
Not to mention the flaws it presents. People can mail spam another player now, if they know who they're bidding against, as an actual strategy to disorient the process of finding your money again sent by the auction house. Aside from that, the amount of space that is used just for an outbid notice is abysmal. 2 or more huge brown lines every time.
We know you had the best intentions, but this change will only bring backlash.
I wonder if the probably one person who complained about getting outbid and not seeing it is happy.
Why though?
If you were already online/active, you would've paid attention to the chatbox or if you didn't, its history was also recorded.
If you were on a bid war, you would be definitely active in order to outbid your opponents. If you were AFK or concentrated on something else, either a message or a mail would be the same. Also extra mails waste more time overall if you're on a tight budget and need that outbid amount in orded to surpass your competition.
So this makes no actual sense in terms of usefulness.
The "AH derped out, you get no crowns back since you got outbid" is a bug on its own and should be fixed accordingly.
The "Collect all" button would be a nice addition though.
My two cents
I have a lot of respect for Grey Havens since they maintain Spiral Knights for us, but honestly, a chunk of that respect is gone now because of the Auction House update.
The update might result in many giving up on bidding. Many products will be sold for lower prices and it might be that less people will buy energy to convert to crowns.
There are many flaws and Grey Havens might make a loss of players and income because of this update.
I thank you sincerely for the efforts you are doing, but please make an effort into listening to what your community is saying.
Please have more contact with us and undo the auction house update.
Thank you devs I appreciate your effort to make the game a better place don't listen to the haters they're just the loud minority.
In the past, you got refunded instantly during runs, and the messages really don't get buried before you see it. Having it be in the mail makes you do at least 3 steps just to get your money back, and while the mail menu is open you cant move, so you cannot reclaim your money during parties or you slow everyone down. Even in a loot room like the final floor of DaN, you can see the blue flash up saying you were refunded, before it got buried.
I take back what I said. This is an amazing update! I think we should all increase our spending limits by $1000 so we can buy all the rehashed promos, never learning about what's in the works, let alone if anything is being worked on! I love transparency! I love bugged Neutralizer damage! I love T4 Shadow Lairs that take over at least 2 hours but don't have increased rewards! I love how theres no Arsenal Station in Treasure Troves! I love this new update and agree with the above statement. Don't listen to the haters.
I agree this update is more detrimental than helpful though the thought is probably in the right place. It makes bid wars twice as tedious as they already were having to go to your mail to get your money back every outbid. Making sure the player is for sure notified of being outbid is good but not worth this price to pay. I think mailing when outbid online should be optional or removed entirely.
Yeah, my mind is changed, this is the best content we could ever get. Elites only dropping in like 4 depths while eternals start at the very beginning of t2 and remain till the end of t3? Supply depot orbs being the bulk cost of any craft? Nah, don't fix that. Don't make any new content and just dig up old promos, because that is all we care about.
It's too bad opening mail doesn't even work right when you have the AH open so you gotta close it first.
Maybe have the outbid notices temporarily sticky on top of chat or somewhere else in the screen.
Supply depot orbs being the bulk cost of any craft?
that's how it was before where you needed energy, I know some people expect to do their crafting only on free orbs nowadays but sometimes grinding the crowns / buying energy with them is easier (so much for "no grinding" lol)
If you revert this update revert the Depth 40, stratum 8, tier 4 shadow lairs please. Just like this update, it damages the game and nobody asked for it.
This is a change that hurts me, and others a lot. I've never heard anyone ask for this. Nor have I heard anyone defending this change, nor have I heard anyone not saying it's a bad change. It's the worst change since the removal of the old revival system.
Thank you for those who gave us constructive feedback as to what this looks like for your daily play. We're looking into various options.
It's not simply the message that is the issue, but how crowns are delivered. Some have had actual issues with receiving funds which is obviously a high priority because it takes quite a bit of time to track down each case and correct it. Delivering via mail prevents such issues. However, going by the feedback here we are looking into other options. That doesn't mean we'll be able to revert it, but letting you know that we're investigating.
Thanks for the update. In the future I think noting this sort of change as being a fix to a reoccurring issue (ie, the "outbid money disappears into the void" thing) would definitely help. Knowing potential fixes that are being looked into before they happen (and getting a community response) would also definitely help. Knowing and feeling like we aren't throwing suggestions at a wall definitely helps keep criticism constructive.
I know the dev team, support team, and the community all do want what's best for the game after all, and getting feedback from all three is definitely important. Just, you know, hard to do when there isn't the best forms of communication between everyone. I hope that all three can work together on this issue for the best outcome.
GH are the best i love you grey havens
Fangel and I understand that the game is perfect everyone else just needs to chill so that the game masters can learn to code and then replace the devs who all quit and then give up and then have the issue fixed on community servers ok as you know a small but capable team ok
SLs are great they are a reward and a blessing and if you don't like it you need to learn respect and give up
I dont see why some people went into rage mode for the update. Its the best update? no, but that doesnt mean u have to go against the team.
I dont go into bid wars but as soon as i read the update notes i thought ppl who does would have it bad. Tbh, the mail update will slow down the bid wars but apparently ppl dont want that hahaha. I saw a suggestion in Reddit that i liked it saying a little pop-up window should appear, thats one solution, but my feedback would be:
Create two tabs for the mail, one from the Auction House and the other tab to anything else. Even before this update, the mail i got from outbids (while offline) was a little annoying since i had to check if all mails were from AH or not, to dont miss anything. The "Collect all" button that Fangel suggested sounds nice too but still, the issue of missing out other types of mail would remain so i think a new tab only for AH would be nice along with a button to collect all from that tab.
Also, right now the Spiral Uplink have 3 tabs: News, Mail, and Invite. A new tab created only for the refunds of the AH with a Collect All button would solve various issues and would make sure everyone get their crowns back.
P.D: I was going to suggest a little "sound" effect when u get outbid while online to keep the auto-refund and help ppl not miss their outbids but i didnt know about ppl having problem getting their crowns back. So far, the little pop-up window or the Auction-exclusive mail tab with the collect all button are the suggestions that i have liked.
"It's not simply the message that is the issue, but how crowns are delivered. Some have had actual issues with receiving funds which is obviously a high priority because it takes quite a bit of time to track down each case and correct it. Delivering via mail prevents such issues.
Told you they had a reason, so stop complaining and being ignorant. There are more important issues than your comfort of bidwars.
There are more important issues than bidwars., you aren't wrong, but when it's been 9 months of no content, and the only things there are to show for it are this feature (which isn't heavily requested like other features or changes), people are of course going to tilt.
Why expect new content in 2020? Be glad the game servers are still running
This.
It's simple really, promo boxes = P.R.O.F.I.T (game keeps running). New content = NO PROFIT (game dies). its econ101 for dummies m8
Auction House has been Reverted Guys, we can all go home now
Thanks Grey Havens for reverting this. Hoping next "QoL" updates get to be discussed with the community before launch.
Undo this, nobody asked for this and its a more of a detriment to everyone.