I'm not talking about skill or damage, but I'm talking about in general of why we know how to do specific movements, gestures, etc.?
Example:
"Who started the taunting players when they die trend?" Who was the player or starter of that?
Without those players, where do you think LD would've been today? Who played a big role in why we know shield-canceling, single canceling, combo/spams?
Tmdals, Icycute, Leadmonkey, and Ezho popularized brandishes and the combo with them.
Rebel-Ex and Skybrandon - fair enough.
Valiance was already popularized before Tmdals was a mainstream player.
Rebel for toothpick as main loadout + mechanics - I'm supposing your talking about 2017 - and now? (correct me)
Dknightt (2012), Danielflame (2012-2013), Cherriee (think either 2013-2015), Spongerino (early 2013), popularized dual flourishes.
Exileddread was known for being a God in the game (PvE/PvP). Not just max range. No one, not even ELK could reach his level of skill (seriously).
Bacon-Strip - fair enough, could be research more though.
Thrillhaus - mohawk? No. Too many players to name. He had the flower before the spike mohawk.
Skybrandon - true.
Epic-Legend-Knight - No. Only person who had it before him was Thrillhaus (2013) and Civax (2014).
Seirian - Yes, but you're also forgetting Mynameis-Seven.
Ezho - true.
Aequitas - true.
Icycute - being a "female" who can outclass other players.
Badworm - never really knew him, so I guess...
Sodamane, sure, but mostly Dredio.
OoV, not sure if that is accurate.
Zainj - yeah definitely, but he's evolved as a player.
Namewithnumbers - I guess too, but not sure about "safe" stunlocks with guns. I know he was OP as hell during Jemp, RoC, OoV, Knightmare days.
Manlet (Tyzr, Tazaam) - the most annoying polaris spammer (2012 - 2013). Dude always brought a pulsar in LD and just spammed it. Seen him get 10k with just pulsar spamming in Tier 2.
Recotah - Running a stable T2 guild.
Verde-Ember - Running the most successful Tier 2 guild - Celestial Vanguards.
Vambf - T2 Recon legend.
Nottheanswer/Ieast - alchemer cancellations
Azoldria - dusker set with accessories
Owao - for lag
Trident-Gum - best female to ever play LD trinketless - TSB + SS + Chroma set.
Striker-Jerry - went from American, to French girl (Starbucks-Girl, Im-Kirsten, Auberst-Wutend, Cheesy-Bubbles), to a Chinese (Cailou, Bingmong) guy.
Suddenswift (Kyoten, Remet, Senskie, Rhipp, Aequil) - biggest playstyle switch ever. He went from being hella trash in Dusker T2 (back in 2012) to being the must intimidated and skilled player in 2014 (when Exileddread officially quit).
Tmdals, Icycute, Leadmonkey, and Ezho popularized brandishes and the combo with them.
Rebel-Ex and Skybrandon - fair enough.
Valiance was already popularized before Tmdals was a mainstream player.
Rebel for toothpick as main loadout + mechanics - I'm supposing your talking about 2017 - and now? (correct me)
Dknightt (2012), Danielflame (2012-2013), Cherriee (think either 2013-2015), Spongerino (early 2013), popularized dual flourishes.
Exileddread was known for being a God in the game (PvE/PvP). Not just max range. No one, not even ELK could reach his level of skill (seriously).
Bacon-Strip - fair enough, could be research more though.
Thrillhaus - mohawk? No. Too many players to name. He had the flower before the spike mohawk.
Skybrandon - true.
Epic-Legend-Knight - No. Only person who had it before him was Thrillhaus (2013) and Civax (2014).
Seirian - Yes, but you're also forgetting Mynameis-Seven.
Ezho - true.
Aequitas - true.
Icycute - being a "female" who can outclass other players.
Badworm - never really knew him, so I guess...
Sodamane, sure, but mostly Dredio.
OoV, not sure if that is accurate.
Zainj - yeah definitely, but he's evolved as a player.
Namewithnumbers - I guess too, but not sure about "safe" stunlocks with guns. I know he was OP as hell during Jemp, RoC, OoV, Knightmare days.
Manlet (Tyzr, Tazaam) - the most annoying polaris spammer (2012 - 2013). Dude always brought a pulsar in LD and just spammed it. Seen him get 10k with just pulsar spamming in Tier 2.
Recotah - Running a stable T2 guild.
Verde-Ember - Running the most successful Tier 2 guild - Celestial Vanguards.
Vambf - T2 Recon legend.
Nottheanswer/Ieast - alchemer cancellations
Azoldria - dusker set with accessories
Owao - for lag
Trident-Gum - best female to ever play LD trinketless - TSB + SS + Chroma set.
Striker-Jerry - went from American, to French girl (Starbucks-Girl, Im-Kirsten, Auberst-Wutend, Cheesy-Bubbles), to a Chinese (Cailou, Bingmong) guy.
Suddenswift (Kyoten, Remet, Senskie, Rhipp, Aequil) - biggest playstyle switch ever. He went from being hella trash in Dusker T2 (back in 2012) to being the most intimidated and skilled player in 2014 (when Exileddread officially quit).
Lol - valiance wasnt popular before Tmdals started using it every game, it wasn’t until jempire lost 0-3 to Aeqs that it spread everywhere.
- for me, I stopped playing SK in 2012-2013 competitively, I wasn’t really active again until 2020.
- not sure if you actually saw Dk play in 2013 but the reason those other players picked it up was cuz he was near impossible to deal with. And then LD became a worse pain in the ass than hammer users
- the reason exiled was a god was ghost range
- a lot of jemps pooled money into the first prismatic Mohawk on auction house for bacon to get it.
- I mentioned thrill for the spike Mohawk cuz aeqs players were the reason that started the look for most people, since they were so stacked in player level
- mynameis-seven didn’t really show up during 2011-2013, it wasn’t until later that he started being known as a good gunner, and even then a rusty Seiran was better. Prime Seiran was pretty insane, only certain people actually survived being encountered by him lmao.
- sodamane n dredio hang out 24/7 they both did that shit lol
- namewithnumbers was the first player to start shooting from range n time the opening frames, which is a normal thing in today’s ld.
1. Valiance was popular. Most basic weapon to use to survive LD compared to nowadays where you need Arcana.
- You stopped playing competitively, but you still played the game again. The best years for you was in 2014 (when you hanged around ppl like - Skybrandon, Redblades, Bleedingxorange, Grimranger, Cherriee, Redblades, Icycute, Palosoltic, Icycute, Retequizzle, Eyta, Garet-Jax, Feller, Jaymancomputer, etc.) I may be wrong but I still saw you, just in different names.
- Dknightt was really good, but so was Cherriee (inactive), Spongerino (inactive), Danielflame (inactive/banned/The-Future-Vision after his permanent ban with trade misunderstandings/affair with Allessio). Cherriee was literally insanely scarier than Spongerino. Dknightt knew how to counter and humble players with his duals. He outclassed Cherriee and Dan, but still there were others like him, but not as good as him.Cherriee was the quickest player in this game. No one was as cheetah speed as her. Can't name no one. Cherriee and Danielflame go way back in terms of arguing, raging, and fighting about who was better at getting damage. Danielflame was a smarter player with how he used his flourishes.
- Yes, Exileddread was a God, but just in general he was too damn good. He didn't need that to be a God. I can't name 1 player who can beat Exileddread, even till this day as he is inactive.
- Probably true, but saw Dredio more.
- Had no idea, glad to know now. I just know that other players had it as well. Wasn't a trend till Bacon had it I guess.
- Seen mohawks on everyone though.
- MNIS was good, but yeah that is accurate.
- NWN came back in 2017 and started doing that, but in terms of when he first played, I'd say no (opinion).
...... Valiance became a thing because they added knockback to it, it wasn't an optimal weapon for guns. Literally was made popular by Tmdals cuz he became the top 1v1 player.
My best years was mid 2012 until late 2013. In 2014 I was already playing with severe lag and couldn't play vs people like Snarkey, Vokster, Fayite, Shadowcookiez, Remet, Icycute. Used to beat Fayite, Vokster, Snarkey & Icycute every game before it happened; Remet didn't hit prime yet so I wouldn't mention, and Vokster's ability was too far off to consider his prime. I did play every year but the only people I'd actually tryhard in RLD with was Skybrandon (he was my duo and the only competition I honestly had besides getting hardstomped by Exiled or Dravor) or BxO. That or stacked inhouse GvGs. Most of the reason I wasn't even a thing in 2013/14 was because I let Skybrandon carry all our GvG games and i just solo capped every match. That and because whenever I felt T3 was too easy to play, I went back to T2 until T2 was too easy and then switched back to T3 and so on. Cherriee tried her entire life to beat me once.
Skybrandon, Arrovvx & Remet, have beaten Exileddread.
You can research forums on NWN he's often mentioned for that.
Used to have a clip of Blueflood's 2013 or 2014 video -- "Tmdals". (You would need to ask Blueflood if he has the file still) Blueflood also had a file where he had like 30 LD players from your list he spectated from his point of view (as a montage thing for his YT).
He had a set of BKC + Justifier Jacket + BTB + Valiance + Umbra Driver + Sentenza | Whole match Tmdals used Valiance and Sentenza.
Sad thing Blueflood removed the video.
Probably Sky and Remet, but when Arrovvx? What year? When Exiled was on En-Garde (referring to Arrovvx).
Not going to lie everything in the 2nd response (My best years...) is 100% facts, now that you clarified. I remember you had arguements in Aeons or Optimistics with Skyb about who capped the most and it almost lead into a brawl in chat. Cherriee was good as hell. Sad there is no mentions of her or Icycute on your post.
Both Icy and Cher played a little diff/same.
Cherriee did tell me she couldn't beat you and the only time she did was if you were low on health or if she toggled. But I could've swear I've seen Cher and Icy stunlock you in a spectate match b4 (not together in teams/separately, I could be wrong though).
Cherriee didn't have the best English (main language was Spanish) but she was quick. Seen her get by in matches with noobs only, but she wasn't horrible, she was average, but I don't think she was better than you, I just mentioned them because I saw you in her circle w/ Skybrandon, Garet-Jax, Sir-Ss, Remet, Redblades, Icycute, Palosoltic, Feller, Eyta, etc.
Icycute - Same, except better. Always played with guns but did so with caution and always used combos to interrupt, avoid, and counter fights.
It'd be difficult to place Icy, but I'm looking forward for both to come back if they could or ever do so.
NWN seemed so simple in LD, but smart and quick. Never once have I seen him overcomplicate things when he's playing against others.
Tmdals loved those damn guns tbh I have his valiance
Yeah arrovvx’s faster than exiled in shield cancel & icy stunlocked me with Acheron combos every so often, used to breeze past her before the pet update lol
Cherriee was good but wouldn’t make the list unfortunately. There were a couple more t2 names I’d place higher than her n just to place a t2 player in the list would take a few T3 mentions
Me pulling 8ks in GvGs was hilarious and we all used to laugh and get annoyed about it. I mean I honestly didn’t have to carry, all of our GvG teams were stacked as hell lol it was way more fun having Sky put effort than us both spawn camping
Fuego-Oscuro was the most important player back in 2013-2015 and he was able to mop the floor with anyone who would stand on his way.
He was known for making BKC + Ancient Plate Mail popular, though some other players wanted to steal the credit.
He then made BKC + mercurial DEMO suit popular, as it proved to tank one more Valiance bullet than the overused BKC + mercurial mail. This completely changed the 1v1 competitive scenario.
Rest of the "strong" players were only popular after copying and learning from Fuego-Oscuro. Tempas' hybrid is only a bootleg of Fuego's, for example. Theirillusion would be a random name if it was not for Fuego's teachings.
I am ashamed that nobody has mentioned him in this thread before. I hope he never looks back to see this.
Now that you know who Tmdals is (Icycute), it could make sense that you knew it.
Seen Arrovvx play a few times, not with En-Garde or Exiledd.
Speaking of Cherriee, I realized you were the only threat to Cherriee in tier 2, lmfao. Went on your Steam profile, and most of the time Cherriee would never get anything higher than 6k or 5k if YOU were in the match. All makes sense since you used to tell her (I was spectating, lmfao) that she was horrible with guns. I've never seen Cherriee beat you fairly, but ik she could destroy most of your t5-8 players in T3 if she wanted to (if she was to get angry). Discovered Cherriee was Berlitha through Azwar, Yubist, and Scirio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7HRwa7H-Os (watch everything - Dusker set player in vid). When Cherriee would clown herself by getting mad, she'd get extremely aggressive and quick, I mean just look at the link. Easy 12k t2 match for her and you can see in the background how quick she is.
Surprised you forgot to mention her cause she was in your circle as well with other people. In that link, no one is as fast as Cherriee in T2. Not even you. The difference vs you and Cherriee is you had experience, you were smarter, intimidating, had strategic patterns, and good decision making to remove all of cherriee's offense.
Well because you played with your guns and you didn't want to take anything seriously which led to making people think you were bad at the game.
Lol.. no point to being fast if you're aiming at air. People in t5-t8 would beat her cuz she booty af. Movements were ass and she was easy to hit. Even if she was fast, t5-t8 are way smarter players, not to mention the people who actually made the list
Also I didnt watch the whole video but everytime I saw her in the background she's comboing sealed.. lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXqcD7q5XyA here's a sexier video of me that i randomly found from clicking your link
What was wrong with comboing sealed if that was credited to BxO?
T5-8 is all trash that’s why I told you it needed to be fixed. How is ELK less faster than you and less faster than Azoldria. I’m glad you showed me the link it literally proved my fucking point lmfaoooo. Look how slow you were compared to Danielflame when he glitched in base? You weren’t laggy to hit 9k lmfao, how you let trash controls from Dan hit 24k? Did you see my point? Screens or not, you could not beat Dan if he reach his prime or not.
If you think Cherriee was booty than t9-t3 is trash. Without speed you wouldn’t be able to combo anything let alone hit 12k. There is absolutely no way anyone in t5 could touch Cher.
Players made the list from who you know.
Lol.. you can literally watch the clip and watch me barely even bother vs him. He did that dumb shit 24/7 lol just sit in our spawn to never die.
If you want a video of me tryharding you can watch this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrYtUi8cVRM&list=PLHf3tEcV3wrc3fyVY8OruG...
If you watch the playlist you'll see Dknightt's 13k+ average at the end of every video and see me sit him down on the linked video with half Dusket set :)
& I'm not discrediting I was just expecting a speedy clips of her dominating shit but it's just her comboing crap and putting 0 effort lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t47UzULwdU you can watch Remet's shitty gunning here too :)
Mwacky for the back n forth spasm taunt lmao
Thrillhaus / Bighondo for hybrid
Tmdals for Valiance
Tmdals for popularizing brandishes in T3 / Leadmonkey for T2
Rebel / Skybrandon for FF+Brandish loadout
Rebel for toothpick as main weapon and toothpick mechanics
Exileddread for constant max range
Dknightt for popularizing dual flourish wield
Bacon-Strip for the prismatic Mohawk
Thrillhaus for spike Mohawk
Skybrandon for popularizing tails tails
Epic-Legend-Knight got pig nose BKC
Seiran most notable single switch player
Ezho for carrying bombs on striker and making it work
Ezho popularized Chaos set
Guild Aequitas for hybrid loadouts
Icycute (Spiral-Hipster/Tmdals) for brandish combos
Badworm for popularizing guardian as OP
Sodamane/Dredio for speedy FSC clears
Sodamane for BKC+Ancient armor
I forgot who started the jelly skelly shit from Order of Venus
Zainj for running the entire map in 1v1s
Namewithnumbers for starting safer stunlocks with guns