All-Time Best Tier 2 Players (My Top 25)
Tue, 01/18/2022 - 22:10
Nazarethh
All-Time Best Tier 2 Players:
All you need to know is that these players have never disappointed me or anyone in terms of match performance.
1 - En-Garde (Exileddread)
2 - Leadmonkey
3 - Cherriee
4 - Skybrandon
5 - Dknightt
6. Tmdals
7. Thrillhaus
8. Spiral-Hipster
9. Danielflame
10. Snarkey
11. Rdzknightz
12. Ezho
13. Tazaam (Manlet)
14. Rebel-Ex (Prolyphic)
15. Kerfuffle
16. Vambf
17. Sir-Ss
18. Arrovvx
19. Canozo
20. Nottheanswer
21. Vatonage
22. Brother-Zeke
23. Epic-Legend-Knight
24. Greenlocust
25. Bacon-Strip
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 21:21
#2
Nazarethh
they did
1. Tmdals (Icycute) used 2 star flourish and a nightblade, 10k each round (2013).
2. Manlet had too many alts back in 2012. He had Tazaam, Tyzr, etc. His set was Swift Flourish + Kilowatt Pulsar. Manlet was barbarously annoying with Pulsar in 2012-2013 of T2 (he was also in Aeqs for a lil).
3. Snarkey did play T2 GvG, seen him play it and dominate.
4. Ezho played a lot of it actually. TSB, Hammer, and Blaster.
Fri, 01/21/2022 - 21:23
#3
Nazarethh
no cap, i played b4 anyone on the forums existed lmfao
there's nothing cap about this. i played SK longer than those who comment on it, lmfao. in and out I got to see the players from 2011-2014 timeline.
17. would be Sir-Ss. I know I was forgetting someone.
Sat, 01/22/2022 - 02:23
#4
Skeptics
LOL okay ill take Icycute but
-LOL okay ill take Icycute but still it was Hipster not Dals, I know Dals playstyle.
-Manlet was annoying but he wasn't carrying anything, but it's your list I guess.
-Snarkey did not T2 GvG wth that dude had a Dusker set when he didn't even know how to play the game properly.
-Ezho played for like 1-2 month with that shit in T3 and left the game again, T2 wasn't even active during that time for him to get that many games to get recognized as a T2 player lmaoo
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 00:59
#5
Nazarethh
What
One thing I also forgot to emphasize on is that these players were catfishes. No way you’d be able to tell the difference in play style had no one told you the secret. Why would any of the members of Aequitas and LDAces comfortably tell you their alts?
I can’t vouch or confirm, but I’ve seen miscellaneous players from tier 3 playing tier 2. It just happens to be it might’ve been Hipster and not dals.
Manlet can never carry, he’s just good at defense and that’s what made him stood out. Better pulsar spammer than anyone in the game, that includes the guild Jempire themselves.
He did, I’m almost sure you witnessed the average and returning players play tier 2, I witnessed way too many to have them unnoticed. Snarkey played tier 2 for a while, basically like what Canozo did except he did better than him.
Ezho had a good run in tier 2. Didn’t play him, but I did spectate 10-20 games he had in t2 lockdown.
Recognition is good, but match performance is more crucial. I can never put below average or average players on this list, especially those who don’t change the outcome of games.
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:15
#6
Skeptics
I see
>makes 200 player ranking list based on playstyle memory
>can’t tell the difference between Dals n Hipster
And Vatonage was a better spammer than Manlet. Running and gunning isn’t considered good defense either.. you’re just running and gunning
Snarkey played T2 like 15 games in total lol “all time t2 player”
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:23
#7
Skeptics
Theres far better active t2
Theres far better active t2 players too
1. Midnight-Carnelian
2. Ancientdragon (Dragon-Karyu)
3. Exceled
4. Bienya
5. Dravor even played t2 more often that Snark
6. Kevthebot
7. Icegill
8. Drdrj
9. Assassin-Ss (Sir-Ss’ brother and better player)
10. Kyrb
11. Elandyr
12. Meisduhbest
13. Hungran
14. Coolspiderman
15. Odee
How tf you skip them to place Snarkey n Ezho with less than 50 total t2 games lmao
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:24
#8
Skeptics
I would’ve taken Recotah and
I would’ve taken Recotah and Erichimself smh not even freezingflame
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:38
#9
Nazarethh
Wow, I forgot
Midnight, not sure.
Ancient probably but he just hammer spammed lmfao.
No, not this dude. ROFL why?
Another impervious dude who, didn’t do much on the scene. Played like 3 games with him and he played like a bum.
Wish I got to see more of that.
Kevthebot was a bit average, but he’s good.
Icegill was good, I might remove Snark for Ice. Dude is on it.
Drdj is basically like Retequizzle lol.
Sir-Ss was too good, assassin wasn’t that better, but he could’ve stood out a little more.
I forgot him too. Elandyr was like Cherriee with SS. Slap to the face and consistent with the combos. You got me there when I forgot to add him.
Meiduhbest is not good.
Hungran only used hammer. Not sure what he was good at in Tier 2. But he didn’t stand out.
Fuck. This dude was good as well, I feel so bad for leaving him out. He had a really good transition.
Odee too, Lmfao gotta redo this list now. I knew there was more players to add.
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:38
#10
Nazarethh
Wow, I forgot
Midnight, not sure.
Ancient probably but he just hammer spammed lmfao.
No, not this dude. ROFL why?
Another impervious dude who, didn’t do much on the scene. Played like 3 games with him and he played like a bum.
Wish I got to see more of that.
Kevthebot was a bit average, but he’s good.
Icegill was good, I might remove Snark for Ice. Dude is on it.
Drdj is basically like Retequizzle lol.
Sir-Ss was too good, assassin wasn’t that better, but he could’ve stood out a little more.
I forgot him too. Elandyr was like Cherriee with SS. Slap to the face and consistent with the combos. You got me there when I forgot to add him.
Meiduhbest is not good.
Hungran only used hammer. Not sure what he was good at in Tier 2. But he didn’t stand out.
Fuck. This dude was good as well, I feel so bad for leaving him out. He had a really good transition.
Odee too, Lmfao gotta redo this list now. I knew there was more players to add.
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:41
#11
Nazarethh
Recotah was booty.
Recotah was booty. Rubyeclipse’s lost brother lmfaooo. Erichhimself - meh. Not really.
Sun, 01/23/2022 - 01:54
#12
Skeptics
Meisthabest is not good,
Meisthabest is not good, Meisduhbest was popping. Different players. He quit in 2012 pre spectate tho
& Bienya was faster & better than me
Exceled was the EU version of Dknightt and the only EU player I ever had trouble fighting against.
Erichimself was cheeks ngl but them UVs had rdz on the floor every single game lmaoo
Midnight was a duals user pain in the ass tbh, I didn’t beat him either. (As Prolyphic)
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 23:42
#14
Nazarethh
. . .
Meisthabest is no.
Bienya is okay, I guess?
Exceled... he's okay though.
Erichimself - no.
Pawsmack became so well in T2 and 3 around 2013. He was pretty good, but wasnt around too much for me to see a lot in him.
Midnight, I played once, got me when low on health.
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 14:58
#15
Skeptics
Midnight was duals n him and
Midnight was duals n him and Bienya were the 2 players I actually tried beating for constant matches and couldn’t beat lmao. It was like 6/4 or 7/3 to them. The only other players were Bacon-Strip, he slapped me but idk what uvs he was rocking if any. And En-Garde, I wasn’t as good during that time to test it, but even then we traded a lot. I didn’t fight Midnight on my main tho but Prolyphic was still high tier play.
Me and Paws did t2 gvg like every other day lolwth that’s during the time Zlushy was popping off too
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 21:41
#16
Nazarethh
Maybe because he was exposed
Maybe because he was exposed to LD before you (referring to Bienya). Impervious is one of the oldest guild and of course he had leverage over you in the matches. That's why year is so important in these debates/scenarios.
Could Bienya beat you if he came back in 2014?
Could Azoldria beat your tier 6 players in 2022?
Can't put Thrillhaus (2012-2013) with a player like ELK (2012-2022). Not only is that deadly, but the experience and playing time is so on ELK's advantage that even Thrill himself would get twerked on in a match.
Midnight was interesting but could've done better. How you played, when you played, and what your strategy was matters. Bacon had VH's iirc.
Lord. En-Garde is the epitome of ELK but more experienced. I have never played a player where they can make every other player's silly, serious, or strategic playstyle look rubbish. I can't imagine putting Exiled in a top 3 because he's literally infinite. Untouchable. When was the last time you played someone like Exileddread? A player with such movement, speed, range, stunlocks, and combos -- consistently, aggressive, strategically, duration-put, etc., there's no way to be on that level of experience like him.
I honestly remember a match I was in with En-Garde where I had hammer and he used flourish and all he did (when I jumped with hammer) was dodge every hit and attack. It almost looked like a Dragon Ball Z/Naruto fight -- except I was being dropped. If you played from late December 2011 through June 2012, you'll know that there wasn't anyone hitting records like En-Garde. But, to say the least, En-Garde is top elite, once in a lifetime player.
Played Prolyphic (you) and you were a tough cookie. Nightblade combos and consistent traps in stunlock with SF was what triggered me to never play US T2 LD again. It's just shocking to know you had ASI Med on your swords and you were perfectly calm, collect, observant, and dominant with players. I know I'm not exaggerating, but you only hit 10k's+ on that account iirc. It's crazy how you can manipulate your own styles on several accounts.
Paws was good as hell too, but I rarely saw him and it's difficult to posit him in a position, I'm thinking of fixing this list since it's 55% inaccurate.
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 21:47
#17
Nazarethh
zlushy was underrated
I don't see anyone putting respect on prince of dodges. Jelly suit, flourish-line only player, with slick and clever dodge moves? How is no one mentioning him? He was so inactive, but so damn good at Lockdown, I think if he played more and tried when he needed to he would've been on this list FOR SURE.
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 21:55
#18
Nazarethh
I would've been top 10 if I played more
Played lockdown from December 20th, 2011 to November of 2012. Came back in 2013. My last Tier 2 game I ever had was with Hell-Bent and Spring-At-Peace in 2015. I only knew the basics of TSB + SS, averaged 8k or more, and highest was 13k with AT. I never owned a 5* gear ever. Had school and college and it was almost difficult to engage a lot in Lockdown T2.
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 23:14
#19
Skeptics
Bienya bested me in speed,
Bienya bested me in speed, not in strategy. An all out zerker battle. Not a strategic 1v1. So yes, he would beat me at close range, he would lose vs me because of ghost range, but I chose not to use that in my list placement cuz of unfair advantage. Same could be said with my ability to properly hybrid and 1v1 which was gained at a much later time then when I played vs most top players. I chose to keep myself under those I’d lose to in an aggressive fight rather than what I could do in terms of strategy.
The issue with comparing Thrill vs ELK is the quality of competition. ELK might have more years but the stronger fighters were in our era 2011-2013, not his post 2015 when all the high competition were already gone. Sure ELK fights extraordinary against players who lacked ability, but same could be said for anyone. Nothing ELK has done puts him in a higher position, there were many who were already at his level and above, and yet you believe Thrill wouldn’t keep up cuz ELK has more experience farming low tier players.
Midnight I also fought in a speed zerker battle, it’s tradition for hardcore speedsters.
I couldn’t care less what I did on Prolyphic. I played that account because the competition sucked, not because I was taking players seriously. The actual reason I even used ASI med and AT on that account was to not put effort at all lmao. The only players I took interest in was Dknightt Skybrandon Azoldria and Dragon-Karyu at that time. And even though I performed less on my main account, it was also the only account where I would play all out. The reason I was great was because there wasn’t a player’s footwork I didn’t learn, and there were many play styles that I copied and could use from people I fought. My favorites were Snark’s, Exile’s, Tmdals’ brandish, and Ithh’s.
Zlushy had a Dusker set in his prime with Brandish + iceburst and hit 10k average every match. He was also highly aggressive and had good footwork.
Tmdals, Manlet, Snarkey, Ezho didnt play t2, and when they did they weren’t even geared or anywhere near noteworthy for a mention. And why am I in there twice lol