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Radiants need of a drop increase

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Mon, 02/09/2026 - 11:21
Kim-Jung-Oink

Hello there! The radiants are in need of a drop increase. By how much, I don't know, I hope that the dev team would figure that out. I know it is a decade old issue, but where's the harm in suggesting this again? I suggest that there be a chance for them to drop in stratum 5, and also, I should not be seeing shining fire crystals dropping commonly in deeper depths. It makes the game frustrating to play, and a pain to level up my gear. Because I have a plethora of gear that I would love to level up. Thank you for reading.

Tue, 02/10/2026 - 00:50
#1
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Zeddy

This has been done on purpose, maliciously. When the crystals first came out, depth 18 and 19 were the only places you can get any reasonable amount of shining fire crystals dropped, so depth 18 arenas were a rare opportunity to get the materials needed to level up your 4* weapons. Radiants were abundant, and people complained.

The first thing OOO did was release recipes for downcrafting radiants to shinings, like people asked.

Then a week later, they messed up the drop rate to the state seen currently, where radiants barely exist, having waited for as many people as possible to trash their rads on the released recipes.

There's a new guard at the helm now, but they've been at the helm for longer than the old guard at this point. Whales genuinely buy rads for energy. I've seen it done, I've seen it gifted to streamers, I've had offers to be gifted rads that I've declined. There would be a tangible loss in profits from making rads reasonable to acquire, so I doubt we'll see any positive change there.

Tue, 02/10/2026 - 19:23
#2
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Jcyrano
No, they need to GO

Not really they need to Go. Zeddy explained how they where turned into a malicious mechanic. SOo no amount of good will will save them. The Forge needs to go. You level items by playing with them thats it, not chance to fail, not stoping to go reforge, no nothing, Smooth playthru levels: levels Down on the Clockworks and up in Your Gear.

Wed, 02/11/2026 - 00:46
#3
Kim-Jung-Oink
Change of mind

You know what guys, never mind. As Jcyrano has suggested, it is better for this system to go away completely, and just level up your gear as it was during the time of mist energy. Though I see how it can be profitable for GH... but I wonder if it is even a significant source of profit? Regardless this system works against the players, and ruins the progression and fun, thanks for pointing that out guys. GH can make profit some other (logical and fair) way instead. I've met a new player a few days back actually, and complained about the fire crystals, now that I come to remember. Yeah, it needs to go. I believe this pushes new players away. And I saw your comment on another forum, Jcyrano. 100% agree. And thanks to Zeddy for that huge lore drop lol. I didn't know any of that, wow.

Sat, 02/14/2026 - 10:48
#4
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Pallaskat
Agreed

The grind for radiants is extremely obnoxious and tiring.
I have plenty of weapons I need to heat up but it takes forever to heat one weapon solely by playing.
Either we should have a way to turn our shinings into radiants or the forge system would need to be gone completely while keeping the orbs.
But yeah I feel like the old system was way better than it is now.
Unfortunately, I think GH is pretty much money driven and removing the forge system would mean losing profit so I'm not exactly sure this will be taken into consideration.

Sat, 02/14/2026 - 11:53
#5
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Jcyrano
What profit??

what profit the one they don't get because new players leave without inviting friends?

Although You are Right the orbs are better! they do make crafting easy (weirdly)

Tue, 03/03/2026 - 11:01
#6
Kazray
An idea! Maybe...

Hi! This is my first time posting on the SK Forums in over 14 years! So I am trying to be more active here!

With that out of the way, I wanted to start by saying Fire crystals aren't inherently bad... Using crystals to upgrade armor is a good way to build a mass amount of materials for upgrading so in the case you are not leveling at the moment, it ends up giving you some extra time and less effort to acquire levels...

- Now two things can be done about this:

A. Make Fire crystals instead of being the process in which you level up Weapons, Armors and Shields, have it be that in the Alchemy station, It is used for UPGRADING your 2 star to 3 star, 3 star to 4 star, Requiring double or single drops for your Fire Crystals. i.e 45 Shinnings and 80 Radiants Or have it just 80 Radiants to upgarde to the next tier of item.

and B. Have it so that Heat Amps increases the desired Fire Crystals dramatically, currently there is no real use for them since you need Fire crystals for your items to be be ranked up, the latter could be that you received Radiants at Lower depths starting at D24 or lower, and have Shinnings begin after D14 (I cant recall which floor is Clockwork Terminals, so your mileage may vary)

Over all there is a lot of ideas you can do with Fire crystals the obvious answer would just be be getting rid of the completely. But I remember people bring alts to level their characters in FSC through the last room with the spikes and fire with the heart spawner. Or say people find a way to exploit heating like they did back then, in fact back in 2011 it was technically possible to level 5 star gear, A full load-out from 1 to 10 in under 3 hours. While the idea of that sounds wonderful it had a lot of draw backs... if it were possible to remove infinite heat farms. to make a more healthier game-play loop I would be all for it.

Over all I've advocated for Grey Havens to change the system for a while if there is any hope that my idea's would reach them. I would love to discuss methods on how to better the system. Fire Crystals have their uses, But the current system where getting shinnings only on D28... Is absolutely ridiculous. So I hope this makes a difference!

EDIT: One other idea is a Fire Crystal Upgrade system, instead of downgrading, you can upgrade shinnings into Radiants. and vice versa.

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