Heyo, it's Refraizen. For those of you who don't know me, I'm very involved in the market and this thread is to help people understand why the prices of energy are so low currently, especially people who don't have an amazing grasp on economy in general. The date is June 4th, 2026, and the general price of energy is 30cr/E, or about 3k per 100.
IMPORTANT EDIT: AFTER THE DEPOX OF RAGE BOXES LITERALLY THE NEXT DAY, ENERGY PRICES ARE NOW CHANGING RAPIDLY AND THE SITUATION HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED. YOU CAN STILL READ FOR THE INFORMATION OF WHAT HAPPENED. THANKS GREY HAVENS!
Here is the most digestible explanation I can offer to somebody about how it happened, that skips a lot of stuff. This will give you the most basic grasp of the situation.
The updates have given us an influx of returning players, who shocked the system and the balance between cr/E at an extremely rapid pace. There's too much energy being generated and not enough usage for it. There's an increasing need for crowns which incentivizes more and more people to convert their energy to crowns, resulting in people constantly undercutting each other's offers.
There are no practical ways to fix the situation without GH's intervention via Supply Depot sales, which we need now more than ever. While Spiral Knights has a player-run micro-economy, it is extremely dependent as a whole on Grey Havens, via Promotional Boxes, Supply Depot Sales, Featured Auctions. We all know which of these has been lacking, and unfortunately it's the one that could balance the situation.
You should only continue reading past this section if you want to actively discuss it with others with an educated understanding, or if you just really want to know the fine details. It's very long.
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OK but why is low energy prices a bad thing?
The resulting consequences:
1.) The price of items traded in this game rise in terms of energy, making things generally unaffordable if you're paying in energy. Wow!! Inflation!!
2.) Because of that, people get less value for their real-world currency that they're putting into the game. It's an absolutely terrible time to be a whale/casual spender.
3.) Anybody who literally has any decent chunk of energy lost relative value. The bigger your energy hoard, the more that is lost.
4.) As many people have shifted to crowns for transactions due to it being a more "stable" currency, players are forced to convert their energy to crowns to buy things. Energy as a whole is becoming a useless currency.
5.) Additionally in the current situation, many players are panic-converting in order to effectively pull out of the energy market before it drops even lower to conserve the value of their currency, further solidifying it as a USELESS currency. It's a very similar effect to America's "The Great Depression."
6.) Because of the turbulent times, there is a rise of scammers looking to capitalize on the confusion of prices. By playing around with the numbers and convincing others that their currency is useless, tied in with some false information, scammers will utilize the situation to grossly oversell their items (even in crowns!), or to purchase items for dirt cheap from unsuspecting, unaware players (returning players, especially).
7.) The price of things in crowns after being recalculated from energy often gets a bit "lost in translation," and people will generally use numbers that are more convenient to them. This actually means that something that costed less in crowns pre-crash, may even result in higher overall prices than it was before. Everybody is guilty of this.
8.) I'm not even going to talk about auction house buyouts right now. That's a different topic but it contributes to increasing prices, while also being locked to only one form of currency to work with.
TL;DR: prices of all things go up in both cr and E, spenders' wallets are crying, energy is useless, scammers are rampant.
SO NO, IT IS NOT JUST BAD FOR MERCHANTS/HOARDERS. THIS AFFECTS ALMOST ANY PLAYER WHO INTERACTS WITH THE MARKET.
Energy fluctuations are typically normal and it's fine for it to sometimes be higher or lower, but currently it's way too low that it's breaking the normal balance that the economy has. Most of these consequences are unique to right now due to it being as low as launch date numbers.
The bright side of all this?
The Good(?):
1.) As energy is more affordable, this is newbie-friendly for obtaining orbs and progression materials. This is great!
2.) Trinket slots, unbinds, Shadow/Silver keys are more affordable. Lockboxes, however, are getting more expensive...
3.) FSC farmers, F2P, and other cr generating players who only pay in crowns are the least affected players.
yeah that's all the good.
If this all you care about, you can stop here. But if you want some fine details on the WHY, dive forward. Part 2 in comments.
Supply and Demand. It's a basic economic foundation that determines the price of things, and it holds especially true in Spiral Knights' free market economy. Basically, supply is how much of something is available in a given situation, and demand is how much people want it in the population.
This concept actually applies to the price of energy as well.
I'll break it down in more depth later but the long and short of it is that:
- Energy has low demand, and has a high supply. A lot of people have an abundance of it, and most people do not want it.
- Conversely, crowns have a high demand, but a low supply, relative to energy.
Uses:
- Crowns can be used for Auction House, Featured Auctions, and Punch rolling. You need a lot of crowns for any of these.
- Energy can be used for Trinket/Weapon Slots, Equipment/Accessory unbinds, and for purchasing things on the Supply Depot.
In reality, while it's way more complicated than I'll be making it out to be here, for the sake of a more simple explanation, remember these rules.
ENERGY PRICES GO DOWN IF:
- Energy is generated (increasing supply)
- Energy has nowhere to go or be deleted (low demand)
- Crowns are not generated (decreased supply)
- Crowns are needed (high demand)
1.) Recent updates have brought back hoards of returning players who are now old enough to have disposable income to spend on the game.
- Energy is therefore being generated in batches upon batches of 45kE instantaneously into the game, and are saturating the energy market very, very quickly. It is also the fastest method to obtaining what they want.
- They are usually not proficient enough to farm FSC as effectively as meta-running players yet.
- Even if they could, we're all adults now. We no longer have the time to spend 4+ hour sessions generating crowns.
2.) Forge boxes are becoming a meta way to obtain crowns. While it's not inherently a bad thing, it doesn't generate crowns; instead, it just recycles crowns in the system. We may be losing FSC farmers and crown generators because of this.
3.) There are not enough "energy sinks" in the game; energy is mostly deleted from the game via Supply Depot purchases, I.E "flash sale" depot sales that feature costumes, accessories, promotional boxes, and other misc items that are typically not on there. GH is not giving us any good one right now. Literally this entire situation could be resolved if they started giving us decent promo box depots, or a heavily overdue high-demand costumes/accessories periodically.
4.) We are still getting more featured auctions in this situation.
5.) Due to the turbulent economy, increased playerbase, and the number of returning players who are not fully aware of general market prices, the auction house is seeing much greater use, and players as a whole are capitalizing on the opportunity to throw things up there. This increases the need for crowns.
6.) The decline of energy has caused numerous players to pull out of the energy market altogether and are now only working in crowns for transactions. Not only does it FLOOD the energy market to convert to crowns, it also REDUCES the demand for energy, while INCREASING the demand for crowns.
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Okay I hope this helped ya'll. It's probably a bit messy but I tried. If you think I'm full of it or exaggerating, that's fine. This is just my understanding and perspective of how we ended up here, and if you disagree with some things, there is nothing wrong with that - my aim was to just inform people of what's happening especially since it's being ask about a lot.
Also this era of SK is a bit much for me, so I may be taking a bit more of a break from the game than usual. I AM NOT QUITTING, DON'T ASK FOR FREE STUFF. Okay byeeee.