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Wed, 08/05/2026 - 18:01
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare

Not every weapon is going to be good and some are quite bad when playing on your own or in a party with different weapons...

But there's a few I call "Party weapons" that have much of their downsides negated when playing in a party where everyone else is using them (or at the very least you can have more fun)

Shard bombs are for me a very clear party weapon, the more players you have littering the ground with these shards the less the empty space and timing between blasts will matter... it's definitely something I suggest people do, especially using the Shocking Salt Bomb or Scintillating Sun Shards as the Shock and Stun status will help you deal with the monsters being knocked back by adding statuses that can interrupt their attack or slow it down

The other clear party weapon are the Catalyzer gun lines as much of their downside comes from potential damage going to waste because of aggressive team members or because of knockback from other weapons.... having a whole group of players using these is a blast (pun intended)... you can have dedicated Taggers and Detonators, or have a complete free for all

Other weapons that work well in a party of identical weapons are Antiguas, Haze bombs, and Dark Retribution.. but it's not that these have downsides quite like the above pair, it's just that more players doing the same thing is pretty fun.... whether it's a flurry of rapid fire shots, enemies being locked in a maelstrom of different status effects, or just a swarm of shadow orbs swirling around

If you're getting bored and wanna have fun, try to form a group of players to pull off something like this as an event or challenge

Wed, 08/05/2026 - 22:40
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Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

Shardstacking is so neat I formed a guild just to be able to find enough people to do it with. The second thing we tried was Catalyzers, although I think that was the old version.

I think coordination helps no matter the weapon, but it's definitely more noticable on the underperformers.

Thu, 08/06/2026 - 08:19
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Jcyrano's picture
Jcyrano
Shards bombs would work great

Shards bombs would work great if 4 players use them... so do Brandishes... lets do the math:

Shards (elemental damage to Zombie) do 143 center and 186 shards with at best 2 shards hiting. so best case scenerio We have 4 bombs doing: 143+2x(186)=515 for a total total of 2060
Combuster (Dual damage to Undead) giving the benefit to the bomb, the swing from the charge attack won't hit (613), only the explosions. so best case scenario 4 swords doing: 184x5=920 for a total of 3680 + fire (595 extra).

Even givin extra to the bomb and removing from the sword... Combuster Still does more for the party... yes Shards might be a 'party weapon'... or is just a coping mechanism to not call them bad. We need them Looked and Sensitively changed, perhaps not entirely, but changed.

ps.: the Combuster would have done a total of 6132 if the swing from the charge attack would have been accounted. I could have been mean and use the Blitzneedle as an example... but that wouldn't have been mean; it would have been Henious...

Thu, 08/06/2026 - 11:53
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Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@Jcyrano

This is a discussion about how to have fun... we've all played with a Brandish sword and know that it's the "optimal" way to deal damage along with the Blitz Needle... the question here is how to have fun with some of these other weapons, the ones highlighted here are ones that perform better when in a bigger group of users. A Brandish does just fine whether it's solo or group, but using a Catalyzer or Shard bomb feels lacking when playing solo and playing in a group compensates for it's weak areas mechanic-wise. (And granted I do think Shards and Catalyzers need some touch ups but that's another discussion for another day)

The other thing is trying to extend the gameplay you can get, if you just play the optimal set all the time you'll get bored, you can always pull it out when you need to get something done, but you should also feel free to goof off or challenge yourself, and what better way to goof off than with friends?

Thu, 08/06/2026 - 15:57
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Scuttlechan
Tortofists never disappoint

Being my favorite weapon I always use it regardless of map and I don't usually find others using it, but I love it whenever someone else running it.

It's always fun to just bombard the whole place with shards nonstop, tends to be efficient too. With so many shards spreading all over mobs constantly get pelted with direct and contact damage and either cannot get past the shards at all or get caught in the midst of it.

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