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Greaver themed Shadow Bomber set?

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Fri, 08/14/2026 - 11:35
Vaultblazer

I was musing over a thread talking about how the Bomber class doesn't have a Shadow variant without the Black Kat event, and the abundance of Elemental bomber sets being a little awkward. I'd then realised that there's a lot of Monster-themed armour sets in general, Slime, Kats, Wolvers, Chromalisks, Zombies, Etc... And how Fiends don't really have much of that at all.

I'd realised recently that Greavers are a little too perfect to not use as a in-universe template for a Shadow Bomber class, as they have a pretty concrete link to it with a Charge-up attack that is easy to disrupt, and even has its own Mist-Bomb effect in its attacks. Wonder what other people here think since I'd love to ease some pressure off of the Kat Hiss set without invalidating its uniqueness entirely.

Fri, 08/14/2026 - 17:53
#1
Inventoria's picture
Inventoria
b i g

I'd love more themed enemy sets that fit a niche. Consider me extremely on board with this idea, I think it makes a lot of sense. I have a bunch of ideas like this but not specifically greaver bomber, but I love it.

Waiting for the Silkwing set we have concept art for too... could be a great 5* successor to the vitasuit line (or just a costume), high health set with some sort of perk.

Fri, 08/14/2026 - 20:40
#2
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Kyiia
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oh this is just a really nice idea! i didnt really realize the bomber defenses were so lopsided. the greaver concept is super cute i love it :3

btw, i'd like to say that i'm really annoyed at *all* the kat armors being locked behind margrel? the black kat meta being inaccessible is one thing, but the price means that there's no reason anyone would ever spend 1mil+ cr on the inferior claw, eye, or hiss armors unless they're shilling for a very particular cosmetic appearance. nobody will ever run kat hiss bomber even if they wanted to! black kat is a bigger question but in the meantime i think those armors can just have their whisker costs removed from their recipes, in line with their respective cowls

sword is in something of a similar situation, although less extreme: the standard craftable sword sets offer piercing and elemental but not shadow defense, just like bomber. there are 3 sword sets with shadow defense rather than 1, but all have a bigger price gate than the hoh gear - kat claw is locked behind margrel while snarbolax & heavenly iron are both locked behind shadow lairs (also heavenly iron is bad). only guns have all 3 defense types on standard craftable equipment (even before taking into account the mass cut-and-paste basil filler)

Sat, 08/15/2026 - 06:51
#3
Vaultblazer

@Inventoria

I didn't even consider a Silkwing theme capping off the nebulous Vitasuit gear, that's really smart honestly! Makes me wonder what other monsters or concept art could be made into armour sets that simultaneously complete missing gaps, since I think I recall a really cool fortress-themed set was a thing and that'd be a great tank-build imo.

@Kyiia

Yeah, that's kinda why I wanted to drum up this topic in first place since some armour sets have a fair glaring gap in equivalence lol. The Black Kat stuff making all the other Kat sets obsolete (And the Glass-Cannon builds of Black Kat + Chaos Set not having a Pierce equivalent is another thing entirely) That said, I think the gunner armour sets' clutter is something that could simply be tweaked since I partially understand the whole Variant for all Statuses idea, it's just a little suffocating for recipe distribution as you can get multiple different ones at once. I'm excited for Grey Haven's new stuff since the Energy spikes look really interesting, but I do think they should revisit some of these fringe situations and iron them out. I have faith that they'll fix it up eventually when they get all their current plans shipped out.

Sun, 08/16/2026 - 12:23
#4
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Holy-Nightmare
Aesthetically speaking I'd

Aesthetically speaking I'd imagine Greavers would look better as something with the Magic line of armors, with their wings turned into your new cloak and hood

But I do like the idea of a shadow defense bomber set.... honestly though I think Bombies are even more suited to becoming the set's theme, since it is a literal bomb monster, and it can be much more easily turned into an armor set, just rip the head model and use it as the helmet with a few tweaks

Mon, 08/17/2026 - 05:50
#5
Vaultblazer

Bombie is a good idea too! Maybe as a bomb Damage increase set whilst the Greaver set is charge time reduction? That'd cover both bomber set types on different gear while keeping the Kat hiss stuff as the best of both worlds. Thematically both of them feel perfect for it.

I just mentally prioritised the Greavers as Fiend has shockingly little themed gear and is only usually mentioned in descriptions like the Gran Faust or when gear's tailored to destroying them, to my memory, whilst other families have plenty of equipment based on its various monsters. Lichen armour would also be lovely but Pierce isn't exactly needing gaps to be filled I don't think. I could definitely spin some gears on the subject, but I'll need more coffee for that.

Mon, 08/17/2026 - 07:50
#6
Kyiia's picture
Kyiia
how about gorgos?

gorgos may not really fit as much thematically for a bomber suit, but all their pudge would work pretty great for a fiend-inspired thicker armor set aesthetically similar to the existing bomber gear!

(trojans also have obvious design space for fiend gear, and they already have associated cosmetics, though theirs would naturally suggest a shadow variant of plate mail rather than anything bomber related. im kind of surprised spiral warden gear doesnt exist as functional equipment besides the leviathan blade)

Mon, 08/17/2026 - 11:04
#7
Vaultblazer

I feel like Trojans could definitely fill in the shadow Plate mail slot nicely, yeah. And gorgos could provide a Melee-boosting armour set for shadow that doesn't require forking out an arm and a leg for Shadow keys and Wicked Whiskers at the expense of not being as good at blocking damage like the Skelly set does. I did hazard the idea of a Gorgo shield covering the Pierce/Shadow resistances that're otherwise only obtainable through a prize-box...But the Gorgomega's already using their iconography, so it's a little tough in that regard.

I'd definitely enjoy having the Spiral Wardens as useable equipment too, but I think they'd really just be a Cobalt themed version of the Ironmight Plateshield sadly.

That said, having ran the Dark Rook gate today, I just had a flash in the pan idea for an Oiler armour set being something that has high-synergy with the Fang of Vog (or just fire levels in general) by setting the user on fire for buffs, it'd be cool seeing an armour turn a debuff into a gambit-positive, but I don't know if the game's design philosophy has ever considered or will consider that kind of gambit, since the Faust and FoV are really cool but held back by such glaring downsides.

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