I don't mind that it's a bit grindy to get the new gun, but please just put all that grind in t3, either by making lower rank spikes randomly drop in higher tiers, or by adding a vendor or crafting recipe to downgrade higher tier spikes to lower rank ones.
I would also much prefer if the spike count didn't move the hotbar.
And I really dislike the sound spikes make when they drop on the floor.
Teir 1 can get *pretty* boring once you hit 5 Star gear.
And to add on to the topic, the sheer amount of Spikes needed to craft the Slicer line is absolutely absurd! A few dozen of a couple Shard size catagories per recipe is fine, but over 1,000?! that's just way too many!
I can reliably get enough materials(outside of Orbs and Shadow Lair Mats) to craft whatever item I'm aiming for in just one properly chosen Arcade run. If the Spikes are going to be an Event thing, I can be fine with taking a run or two to get everything I need, but *seriously.*
With all the people alt-farming I really anticipate this entire system slamming into the dirt in a few days, even amidst the whole gold rush situation going on with people paying insane amounts just to craft the guns
Really hope they make these downcraftable if/when they make them bound, it would make this grind so much better even if not easier
@Merryheart: Eh, sometimes I like going all Godzilla mode through T1, especially if there's a stratum 2 arena so I can maybe snag some free Simple Orbs. It seems like you need substantially less of the T1 shards so it shouldn't take all that long. I run a lot of T2 by choice so I don't mind that part at all.
I lose a significant amount of cr finding a simple orb over an advanced or elite orb, and if I wasn't in t1 the orb I find would just not be a simple orb, it would be advanced or elite, or eternal. T2 is like ok, especially if the RT gate is construct, but it's still not T3, and I won't be getting any rads from playing.
Playing t1 is genuinely just a snoozefest, and very unfun, and strongly incentivizes just alt farming because it's not like there's any challenge anyways. And it also just really tanks the actual cr payout I get. Even if we assume eternal orbs are worthless, and that I get one simple orb every t1 run (I won't even get close to that) I would still lose a ton of cr running t1 over t3.
It's just terrible design, because you're forcing vanguards to play t1 which just doesn't make sense.
And make no mistake, there's no reason for anyone to play t1 arcade, so it's not like there's even a reason for new players to actually farm t1 and then trade them away to higher rank players. And even if you want such an incentive to exist, just let us downgrade higher star spikes to lower star rank ones then and the low stars will retain some value without forcing us to play t1.
Honestly, saying "some free Simple Orbs" is such a bad argument that I can only assume that it is a bad faith argument.
And genuinely makes me believe you are not here to discuss, but just to troll.
Because it is very much not free. @Pdtopgun
...why in the world do you think I'm making a "bad faith argument"? If I get an orb drop from a box, then it is by definition free. Sure, Simple orbs are fairly cheap if you're spending energy on them, but that's still crowns/energy I could be spending on something else instead. I'd rather go for the occasional free drop if I can. I also have no idea how you can claim that you're "losing" crowns by playing T1. Unless you're referring to the theoretical time efficiency of running certain levels vs. others, in which case my response is that I could not care less about that. Everything in the game is free to earn, so if I play something that pays out a bit less than something else, it doesn't affect me much either way.
And yes, I am a player who genuinely enjoys running T1 once in a while. Not all the time obviously, but there's a chill vibe to cruising through a level and one-shotting everything. It's a little reminder of just how far I've come in the game.
Why not? To me that's a great design choice. Encourage people to play through all of the Clockworks. Plus when you're down there you can pick up some freebie lower-tier orbs.