Hi , i play this game since 4 days and vendors always sell the same recipes , wiki says it's random stock but it never change , how can we make them change their recipes sold ?
How find different recipes
you probably are going to the Spiral Quartermaster
you need to go into the clockworks to the Clockwork Terminal and talk to Basil the wandering merchant his recipes are randomly generated
Actually, I dunno if Basil's are random per run anymore; seems like they're random per day. Either that, or I'm not paying attention, and he's offering everything I don't want.
Hm ok i will try to make run to basil again , but each time i have gone to him i had only cobalt helm/armor and defender (same as the Haven stock):(
Thx for answer , hope i'm not cursed ...
Actually, I dunno if Basil's are random per run anymore
It's random per run.
Actually its the same per run if going down the same dungeon.
Everytime i went down there i see the same 1 star 2 star recipes... and even appears as "0" showing i bought it earlier
I'm having an issue where every single recipe he has shows up at not in stock no matter how many times I go down.
You need to go through at least one full level before the terminal, or he'll be out of stock of everything but 1* recipes.
buff that happens when u join a group where they are either one level from basil or in the area where basil is
Ah, that makes sense.
I'll see a friend down that far when I log in and jump in the group to help. It'll end up being like.. right before the rest stop. Good idea to stop people from gaming the system. I never buy anything from him anyway. He never has what I want, and buying the same recipe off auction only costs a little bit more. Money I would have spent in energy diving again and again getting the recipe I want.
Just thought it was weird is all.
Actually its the same per run if going down the same dungeon.
No. It isn't.
Ok my bad , i was effectively checking the Spiral Quartermaster , but the problem is the same : Basil sell only 1 star recipes , and you need 2 stars recipes for going level 2 .
Same when you are level 2 and you want go level 3 , basil will sell you 3 stars recipes when you need 4 stars one
So we have no other choice that buy recipes at the auction house , for a total insane price , and encourage crap speculation
I think this part of the game is a very bad mechanic ...
Basic, when found in T1, will sell 1* and sometimes 2* recipes. The recipes that Basil sells in T2 are 2*, 3*, and 4*. The recipes that he sells in T3 are 4* and 5*. Seriously, if it was how you say it is, how you do you think anybody could have gotten ANYWHERE?
Basil sell only 1 star recipes
No, he doesn't. Does no one understand the word "random"? Have I fallen into an alternate universe where the word "random" has vanished from dictionaries everywhere?
Tier 1: 1-2 Star Recipes
Tier 2: 2-4 Star Recipes
Tier 3: 4-5 Star Recipes
At. Random.
Ok , again maybe i have lack of luck and he can sell sometimes 2 stars recipes , but i think this part of the game cause too much dirty speculation at auction house , really sad for me .
To malicus : it is simple to go level 2 buying cobalt set , and i think most of the people are doing that , i have myself bought all cobalt recipe (but no crafted them) , before trying to learn a bit about this game .
Kozma, the Spiral Quartermaster has an unchanging inventory of recipes. She carries the "basic" gear...cobalt, blaster, blast bomb, and the calibur line, from 2* to 5*. Every time you see her (and she shows up in Haven and the 2 subtowns), her inventory will be exactly the same.
Vatel in the Haven bazaar, is a Stranger merchant. He stands next to the green banner that looks like a throwing flask. He has a semi-randomized inventory that changes every day at midnight pacific. He mostly carries 1* recipes, but will usually have some 2*. The size of his inventory varies a lot. I've seen it as low as 5 items, and up to 15.
Basil is at the clockwork terminals in the Clockworks, on levels 4, 13, and 23...I don't think he shows up at 29, but I haven't been, so I can't say for sure. He has a randomized list of recipes that will vary by tier. At level 4 he has 1* and 2* recipes. At 13 he has 2-4* recipes, and at 23 he carries 4* and 5*. These lists change every time you visit him on a different run. Every knight who visits him in the same party gets the same list. If you leave the clockworks and come back on another run, his inventory will be different. Sometimes it will be good. Most of the time it will have stuff you don't want. This is the nature of random.
But I'm pretty sure he never carries the cobalt and other spiral quartermaster items.
I'm positve that I've seen some quartermaster items in his inventory a few times.
Basil's recipes are randomized each time, not all vendors.
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Basil