This just showed up on the facebook page. I sense a patch coming soon.
Spiral Knights
Transmission intercepted from the Ironclaw Munitions Factory: "Destroy the interlopers at their source--Burn Haven to the ground!"
Burn Haven? Is this some sort of defend the base kind of thing? I'm intrigued....
I knew the gremlins wouldn't let Haven stay standing forever! And they say they will burn it?
Does this mean...
Ironclaw Scorcher spam? :o
My inner conspiracy buff says the flame thrower bug is connected in some way, perhaps the lower ranked gremlins were getting more advanced weaponry from the factory's increased production.
Father, why do the gremlins hate us so?
I guess they just got tired of all the BS son
Oh, that's not good....anyone have a magic sword that can destroy entire armies? Anyone?
I have a gremlin mender's magic wand, will that help?
hmm... my new silent nightblade with high Gremlin UV will finally be worth it....
Depends. Can it channel mana into a huge burst of magical energy that is capable of leveling a small city? :p
Ohhhh hell.
To arms, to arms! Fight them off! They are NOT laying a greasy, singed furry paw on the Snipes! ...Or our new homes. Or the auction house...
...yeah...
No... It channels mana into a small burst of magical energy that is capable of harming one individual.
Wonderful. MORE fire. As if we already didn't have enough useless endgame armor and shield choices. Look, MORE elemental damage! MORE fire because obviously FSC clearly isn't enough. Come on, three rings. Be a little more original. Make a boss and/or levels that focus on shadow armor. The bosses now are snarb (normal), RJ (piercing), and the Big Van (elemental). EVERYTHING in T3 is elemental, and half of everything in T2 is the same. Balance this game, for chrissakes...
And unless the construct boss winds up being an evil construct of dark evilness, I'd expect that to just use huge normal or elemental attacks, too.
I beg to differ. Shadow is also pretty in vogue, as the T3 kats also do pure damage type. They'll rip you a new one if you charge in with no shadow defense, as will Devilites.
Just because the gremlins plan on razing Haven doesn't mean that all their attacks are fire based.
"Just because the gremlins plan on razing Haven doesn't mean that all their attacks are fire based."
Did you even read the first post. Or the Twitter. Or the Facebook.
"Transmission intercepted from the Ironclaw Munitions Factory: "Destroy the interlopers at their source--Burn Haven to the ground!"
Burning things is extraordinarily difficult without fire. ಠ_ಠ
Fire isn't the only thing that can be used to start fires! ...but I suppose the point stands.
The problem with attempting to start a fire without a fire... is the fire.
Maybe they'll just have Vog run around all over the place. Leave behind a whole bunch of burning puddles of flammable dog pee everywhere. (It burns when he pees, y'see.)
All Vogs go to Haven.
just because you need a spark to start a fire, doesnt mean that once the inferno is raging, you have to keep burning yourself. the pyro from TF2 proves that, as he tries to extinguish you with the cold bite of a fire-axe.
"the pyro from TF2 proves that, as he tries to extinguish you with the cold bite of a fire-axe."
...which only works because (s)he carries fire weapons everywhere.
Burning things is hard without fire.
"Shadow is also pretty in vogue, as the T3 kats also do pure damage type."
First of all, "pure damage" is extremely vague and I assume you mean "only shadow." Secondly is the "so what" factor. There are so many elemental damaging attacks in T3 that the few graveyards/devilish places you might come across in NO WAY outweighs the fact that you need owlite shield/volcanic whatnot/etc. as elemental resist gear because elemental is EVERYWHERE. You see lots of people running around in all skelly gear (not the custume)? No. There's a REASON for that.
If you're going to argue against me, please bring something to the table first. Otherwise it's just words in the wind. You provide me of any evidence in which something NOT elemental resistant is a better choice than something that is for T3 and I may reconsider my position. be warned that many players far better than you or I have already commented on the broken-ness and unbalanced nature that is "everything in T3 is elemental and it's stupid."
Your move.
@Giga, yeah, thanks for pointing that out, but the point was i was backing up Fly saying the gremlins dont all use fire attacks... which they dont. and neither does the pyro. last i checked, gremlin axes dont set you on fire. neither does the "Axetinguisher" and the like. by that reckoning, not all the gremlins would be wielding flaming weapons.
On another note:
chemical fires? electricall fires? fires you start by bangin two pieces of flint together over some tinder? you can start a fire without a having a flame beforehand, harder tho it may be.
fact that you need owlite shield/volcanic whatnot/etc.
You don't NEED anything. I've been doing T3 runs with my Aegis for a while now and very, very rarely does it not get me through it unscathed. No elemental/shadow protection to speak of.
i use a cobalt set no elemental/shadow there, i do pretty well thankyou.
I'm not talking about damage, I'm talking about resists. Unless you're peerless at blocking everything, which is hard to do given the large mobs and latency of SK, chances are you're going to be hit by something that causes fire or shock. You're right, you don't NEED anything, but there's a really good reason people run around with usually one of only four armor sets. Aegis is good, stone tortoise is good, owlite is good; if it resists elemental damage or has high health, you'll want to take it with you.
Entering the FSC without fire resist spells almost certain doom, or so I've been told by countless players. My point is that I'm really, REALLY hoping that OOO doesn't do what I would consider incredibly stupid: add another boss where it's mostly elemental and normal attacks. Most players I've seen in T3 rock Vog Cub gear and/or owlite shields, so on and so forth. I want them to add boss and pre-boss levels that focus on stuff that ISN'T elemental; give the other armor sets some love. Walking into FSC with all skelly gear, for example, is usually a bad idea.
Those with cobalt sets and the like with just normal defense, none of this would really affect you; your armor is a jack of all trades and a master of none, with high health and appreciable defense against pretty much anything.
Most fire-based weaponry relies on sparks to generate their flame: have you ever tried to start a bunsen burner without either matches or a flint sparker? If your stove operates by open flame, it requires a spark to actually ignite the gas-- if the sparker isn't working, you need matches, a lighter or a firestarter to get it going. Would you say the Firotech Alchemer and the Ash of Agni are fire-based weapons? What if I told you they were both chemical fires (which canonically operate by flammable gel and powder, respectively)? Nope, I'd still call 'em fire-based weapons, because they are weapons that start fires.
(Incidentally, the Gremlins are probably planning to burn Haven with their new Incini-Laser weapon. A laser that starts fires.)
Talking about other ways to start a fire is moot, since the whole point was that the Gremlins have explicitly stated their intention to burn Haven down, and they can't burn Haven down without fires: a crazy person with flint and tinder is still an arsonist, and you can't burn things down with your Axtinguisher. You can defeat enemy players with your Axtinguisher, yes, but you can't burn things with it (that's the Sharpened Volcano Fragment). Unless you intend to destroy Haven with the power of ulcers and acid reflux. Heartburn is a kind of burning I guess.
It's possible to slay enemies with water-based weaponry without getting them wet (Ice is water too!), but I can't see a way to burn a town down without starting a fire.
yeah, but the fact i was pointing out is that gremlins dont soley use fire based weaponry (some would argue a spark is more of a form of energy, rather than fire - which i know is energy in itself, but think 'lightning' which is generally given its own elemental attribute in many games). you were opposing Fly saying "Just because the gremlins plan on razing Haven doesn't mean that all their attacks are fire based." - while true that you cant have a burning city without fire, doesnt mean the attacking force plans to soley use flamethrowers and red rovers (it'd be disapointing if they did- and about as impractical as running into FSC with a Faust and a Blackhawk, wearing Mad Bomber).
The thing about the pyro, was not about its burning capability, but the "i can kill you without setting you on fire, despite the fact im a pyro" or "i can killl you with a non firebased weapon, WHILST youre burning, to save time and effort" - and what nefarious king wouldnt want his subjects to be efficient with their town-destroying plans?
Essentially what im getting at is that although it says that they plan on burning haven down, doesnt mean theyre limited to fire inflicting weapons alone, which is what you seem to be alll "NOWAI, NOT TRUE! TWITTER SAID SO!" sure, there obviously will be some flamers to contend with and a massive ass laser, but hey, im sure the general axemen and bombers will feel left out if they cant join in on the invasion, and king tinkinzar wouldnt want his troops' morale dropping, would he now?
(incoherant rambling aside, nice sketch of a samus-pyro :P)
oh and sure you cant burn down a town without so much as a spark, but its haven: town of the invading evil mecha-knights who are intent on slaying the peaceful societies living in the clockworks - youre gonna encounter resistance. youd need an escort.
ironclaw aka gremlin boss loled. Yea im happy the game deffenly needed an update, was kinda long time we had a real one.