Spiral Knights - Crafting 2 Stars

Crafting 2 Stars

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Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:19

RizuChan

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Currently I was aiming to get the Magic set that eventually turns into the Divine Veil and Mantle. I had managed to get the recipe for the 2 Star Magic Hood and Cloak (I started playing yesterday -- and to my glee managed to craft a High Variant in Piercing and Sleep respectively. So I set to level up the gear until I could get the recipe for the 3 stars and so on... And now I find that because I leveled my cloak and hood they cannot be upgraded -- but anything 3 stars and up can be levelled and upgraded without a worry.

I suggest switching this so any level 2 star item than wants to be crafted into a level 3 star upgrade of itself can do so from level 1+ -- as opposed to the sole 1 option. It simply makes no sense that it cannot be upgraded because it was levelled -- when the whole point is to level up your stuff so you can survive longer in the Clockwork.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:26

Madadder

wow i didnt know that was a

wow i didnt know that was a rule that does seem like bs

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:33

Sunless

and Sleep Enjoy your useless

and Sleep

Enjoy your useless resistance.

It simply makes no sense that it cannot be upgraded because it was levelled

It can. Did you un-equip your item before trying to craft it?

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:33

RizuChan

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*sad face*

Yeah it caught me off-guard as well -- I've been watching friends of mine play since the game came out before finally deciding to play it as well (and forking real life money for CE) and suddenly I come across this. They didn't know, since most of their equipment they started at 3 Stars up. I wanted to craft until I got some good variants, so I went 2 stars up instead.

And bam, this happens. I am really disappointed, especially because it's a rule that simply makes no sense whatsoever -- unless /everything/ no matter star rank couldn't be upgraded if it was levelled.

It's simply a very silly rule. >:

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:36

RizuChan

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*sigh*

Yes, I did unequip it. It will not transmute. It will transmute a level 1 cloak/hood I crafted to test it out though no problem. Checked the Wiki and bam, it's not 1+ levels but 1.

And Sleep might seem worthless now -- but the game is still young and constantly updating. Who's to say it might not become amazing in the future to have because OMG there's a monster boss that sleeps you and kills you and you can do nothing about it otherwise and whatnot. Sleep has a lot of potential as a status ailment to be inflicted into players by monsters -- it just has to be treated very carefully 'cause otherwise it can break the game completely.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:39

Sunless

Yes, I did unequip it. It

Yes, I did unequip it. It will not transmute. It will transmute a level 1 cloak/hood I crafted to test it out though no problem

Cap your transmutation screen with the item inside the circle.

Who's to say it might not become amazing in the future to have because OMG there's a monster boss that sleeps you and kills you and you can do nothing about it otherwise and whatnot.

Ahahahahaha.

Oh wait, you're serious...

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:49

RizuChan

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Seriously?

I would but I have the Level 1 Magic Hood that's for a friend that just started out -- but her time zone is 14+ hours different from mine so she isn't on yet. So, naturally, the recipe is going for the Level 1 Hood and not even letting me switch tot he Level 9 one I have. And when tha hood wasn't there the Level 9 one simply did not fit itself into the little tiny circle where it's supposed to go in the recipe. And I made sure to check and make sure I had another helmet equipped -- and not just n the disguise slot or w/e it's called.

If you don't believe it just check the Wiki -- it says you need a Level 1 Hood -- unlike all the other recipes that place Level 5+ or Level 10, etc. I don't knoew if they were aiming for Level 10 (like when transmuting a 4 star into a 5 star) and simply someone made a typo and made it 1 instead of 10 or what. But yeah, it's a silly thing to be happening really -- especially on a 2 star item you're trying to upgrade to 3 star.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:49

Madadder

for the record the magic set

for the record the magic set is the only ones that i have seen that need a lv 1 base equipment to upgrade all others do not as far as i know

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:52

RizuChan

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And yes, I am deadly serious.

Think about it, Sleep makes the player fall asleep -- and slapping them around with attacks does NOT wake them up. They have to wait until the Sleep effect goes away and meantime they are unable to block or attack -- they're pretty much sitting ducks. Give a boss that can poison/fire you some minions that can lull you to sleep and you'd be shrivelling on the floor crying.

Of course, for it to work and not become too overpowerful you'd have to take a lot of things into account before trying it -- which is why I think Sleep still doesn't have much use right now. Y'know, new games and programmers trying to fix all the other quirks and unbalanced things to make the system as fair as possible, but still challenging.

Anyways, I'm going off topic now. XD

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:53

RizuChan

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Wtf, seriously?!

They are the only one with that silly little rule on to transmutate?! Oh come ON... DD:

That just makes it a million times more silly.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:55

#10

Sunless

Think about it, Sleep makes

Think about it, Sleep makes the player fall asleep -- and slapping them around with attacks does NOT wake them up.

Except that's not what happens when a Player is put to sleep. Nice try though.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 18:58

#11

RizuChan

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Uh... Yeah it is.

Sleep is a status condition that will render the target unresponsive until woken. While asleep, the target will slowly regenerate HP. Since a knight cannot consume a Remedy Capsule while asleep, it must wear off by itself.

Taken out of the official Wiki itself.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:00

#12

Sunless

Being hit while asleep wakes

Being hit while asleep wakes you/them up. Derp harder.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 19:05

#13

RizuChan

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*shrugs*

I've sliced and pounded sleeping things and see them not wake up until the third hit or so. For all I know it might have just worn off. Haven't seen players -- though read somewhere else in the Forums that they'd gone through some shroom things and apparently yes -- slapping the player with attacks (whether mob of other players) did not wake them up.

But anyways, this is totally going off topic -- my main concern is why a 2 star hood and cloak must be level 1 and one only to be transmuted when apparently nothing else shares this quality in the 2 star tier according to Monkeyman135.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:21

#14

Kathoric

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Please test this again, once

Please test this again, once you get rid of those level 1 items. I currently use a Miracle Hood for which I crafted the Magic Hood myself, and I *think* I leveled up the Magic Hood some before upgrading it to the Elemental Hood. But it's been a while, so I can't be certain, and I don't have anywhere near the CE to afford putting this to the test with a new Hood or Cloak.

If this is repeatable, then please report it as a bug, and see if you get any official response. I really can't see this as being "working as intended"...

BTW: Instead of waiting for your friend to log on, why not just mail the gear to her? You can attach unbound items to a mail message. Or mail them to yourself to get them out of your inventory (yeah, the mail system *will* let you do this).

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:55

#15

mikodo

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Seems to work for me.

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 20:56

#16

mikodo

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Seems to work for me.

Forum error made me double post. >_>

Tue, 06/28/2011 - 21:43

#17

RizuChan

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Yay!

I was able to craft them when they reached level 10. But between 2-9 it'd never let me, even when I had all the items. >:

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 04:21

#18

Nikith

a monster that does sleep and

a monster that does sleep and then kills you would be unfair

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 11:29

#19

cosmicwolf

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Um...

I don't mean to be rude, but that's exactly what Slooms and Sloombargos do. Those are rare monsters that only appear from Monster Cages, though.
And yeah, I suppose that fighting one of those whitout sleep resistance would prove rather challenging when soloing.
As to the crafting issue, that's just plain wierd. As far as I know, no other 3* equipment will require lvl 10 predecesor to be crafted. Your post did at first manage to scare the hack out of me though, as I'm 2* with my second character now, and I couldn't remember how I got my 3* equipment with the first one...
But anyways, that doesn't really matter.

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