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Sun, 07/03/2011 - 21:08
Icycloud's picture
Icycloud

this is the thread to add buddies for ONLY d16 done all over and over again. If you guys know what I mean. The reason is simple. Too earn cr only. Newbie pls refrain from posting here. Nothing personal, as we are using 10 ce to earn cr, we would not wish to revival. We will not be doing any tokens. Interested, please post your Ign and let's add each other for crowns !

Ign Icycloud

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 22:28
#1
Xxgordenxx's picture
Xxgordenxx
Nice Idea

I dont see how you can only do depth 16 over and over again can you please explain it? I mean, its a nice idea and all, but wouldn't you have to start all the way from d8 and use CE to get down there? Or is just one person go down to d16 and invite the friends? I dont see how its possible to do d16 repeatedly without having to run from d8.

Nonetheless I have all 5* equipment and would be interested in this if you explained how it worked :)

IGN: Xxgordenxx

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 23:08
#2
Flameberga
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I do it almost everyday,

I do it almost everyday, usually always full tho.

ign same as user id.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 23:30
#3
Captain-Teemo
I think he's talking about

I think he's talking about basically doing jk castle w/o jk, and he wants ppl who can grind it out quick rather than having ppl with weaker skills slowing them down.

Honestly - these don't take much time to solo so why don't you just do that?

Am I the only one who feels the tone of the OP is a little condescending?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 23:45
#4
Broxaim's picture
Broxaim
it's a little

it's a little condescending... but that's because he want's to get the job done

how it's done

person A arrives at d16 w/ or w/o party... GO SOLO and lock party

invite person B to group
person B arrives .. then GO SOLO, invite 3 friends..

person A stays put and doesn't kill anything - just don't afk too long and d/c

person B + group finishes the stage.. then leave

person A invites B again.. repeat

i guess you can rotate the person who stays at d16 to keep things fair

i think that's how it works

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 01:23
#5
Flameberga
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^

4 times, then after that u'll have tougher runs.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 01:34
#6
Yeoo's picture
Yeoo
Good idea, however.......!

There is already another thread similar to this one
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/7285

I'll join in here as well i guess.
IGN : Yeoo
Will add you guys in game.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 03:05
#7
Zouless
Totally in for this.

Yeah Im totally in for this.

IGN:Zouless
I'll add you when I'm online but everyone else here can add me as well :)

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 04:03
#8
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Betrael
IGN: Betrael please mention

IGN: Betrael

please mention the thread.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 04:46
#9
Darkprion
IGN: darkprion ...mention

IGN: darkprion ...mention this thread or i won't accept >:D

also...HI BETRAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:07
#10
javer
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im down for this IGN:

im down for this IGN: blackgirl

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:39
#11
Dasparian
IGN:

Dasparian.

Again, please mention the thread.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:41
#12
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
Yeah I do this except for the heat. XD

Put my up on the list. Why not?

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:44
#13
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
BTW

I'm all 5*, have Vog set working on Skolver, have GF, SMB, DA, AP, and Grav. Vortex. I have 2 shield, my Grey Owlite and VPS, and a health and a curse trinket. I can easily solo him (although this thread isn't for fighting) and can kill vanaduke too (not solo.). Whoops... I got off topic there...

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:44
#14
Pluggle
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I'm keen.

IGN - Pluggle

Mind mentioning the thread.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 08:52
#15
Piaomiao
I'm in

IGN : piaomiao

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 10:45
#16
Blinky
add me

IGN Blinky

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 11:31
#17
Radioinactiv
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Im in. IGN: Radioinactive

Im in. IGN: Radioinactive

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 11:54
#18
Azurenightmare
I like this. IGN:

I like this.

IGN: Azurenightmare

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 12:11
#19
Dwho
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This

Idea is incredible.

IGN Dwho

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 14:31
#20
aeolianmode
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I know it's elitist and

I know it's elitist and condescending but there are times where the line has to be drawn... this is why we have threads like this and the Vanaduke run buddy thread.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 14:34
#21
Dirt
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Is this kind of thing done

Is this kind of thing done for real? It's so lame.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 21:15
#22
szicu29
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I'm down for this

Count me in.

IGN: Samshimi

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 21:31
#23
hgluna
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Weeeooo!!!

Go for it.

Hgluna

I was also wondering if I could help organize the runs thoroughly in-game.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 21:31
#24
TeeBone
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plz mention thread

IGN Guyjin

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 05:30
#25
Trakand
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I'm up for doing this. Full

I'm up for doing this. Full 5* gear w/4* weps atm, soon to be 5* as well

IGN Trakand

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 05:45
#26
crimsonsteel
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" how it's done person A

"
how it's done
person A arrives at d16 w/ or w/o party... GO SOLO and lock party
invite person B to group
person B arrives .. then GO SOLO, invite 3 friends..
person A stays put and doesn't kill anything - just don't afk too long and d/c
person B + group finishes the stage.. then leave
person A invites B again.. repeat
i guess you can rotate the person who stays at d16 to keep things fair
i think that's how it works
"

person A CANNOT re-invite person B back into that same instance, as each instance has its own kind of .. reference ID im assuming, which means when you go solo, the ID is duplicated (which also means basil gives the same items to both "parallel world instances" as ill call them). this prevents person b, or anyone else who joined person b from reentering a's original instance, or any instance spawned from a by any other people, such as if a invites d, then d goes solo, and invites b - b wil not be allowed to enter.

long story short - OOO has managed to make a game that is fairly competant at minimising spammers and people whod otherwise sneak around the way the game is supposed to be played via glitches or exploits.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 08:08
#27
darkang3l
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IGN : sky-bot ADD ME PLOX

IGN : sky-bot

ADD ME PLOX

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:30
#28
Jaerin
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Except that's not the way it

Except that's not the way it works right now. Whether you agree with this method or not, it works.

Go to a level, invite someone else, they go solo and clear the level, you reinvite them back and they can go solo to get a whole new fresh level.

What's even more nefarious is you don't even need someone else to facilitate this.

1.) Solo or group until you get to the level you want to farm
2.) Go solo
3.) Invite whomever you want to come your group (Can even be a completely Proto geared noob)
4.) Let that alt sit and hold the level - just make sure it doesn't idle out
5.) Whenever you need a new copy of the level you just either get invited back to the level or have them on your friends list and "join" them
6.) Rinse repeat

I don't agree with this method, but it does work. The problem is I'm not sure how you could fix this without breaking the "Go Solo" option. I suppose you could make it that each person can only do each instance ID once, either in a party or not. That way if you went "Go Solo" you couldn't come back to that instance and clear it again.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 10:47
#29
Miulagoon
IGN

Miulagoon
If you want to add me please mention the thread. :)

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 14:37
#30
Legendsmade's picture
Legendsmade
IGN

IGN is legendsmade

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 16:02
#31
Negimasonic's picture
Negimasonic
IGN: NegimaSonic

I kind of figured this would've been one of those things you don't actually talk about on the main forums. I've never been aware of the exact details but I'd been in a few parties like this.

But yeah the reason why I'm kind of against this publicly is because it might make them want to try and stop people from rejoining parties anyway. I've left parties for legit reasons (bad equipment/went to make a sale) and i came back later in the level so I could keep going after I went back to haven. But there's very little way to tell the difference between this and that.

That being said, when I get to play more in about two months if this topic isn't locked, count me in sometimes

IGN: NegimaSonic

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 17:00
#32
joe2
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IGN joeto been doing runs

IGN joeto

been doing runs from 9th floor, this sounds a lot easier :)

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 19:01
#33
crimsonsteel
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yeah uhm.. ive actually tried

yeah uhm.. ive actually tried all methods of doing this that i know of, and none of them worked. once person B finishes his go solo or whatever, he cannot rejoin person A by any means, and if person A invites person C who goes solo, C cannot invite B either. this is because all duplicate instances created via "go solo" have the same instance ID, this makes basil sell the same gear to all people in that instance, or invite people multiple times into the same session to grind jellly king. HOWEVER, it does usualy say something about not being ablle to invite [player] until you reach the clockwork terminus, so if you got a guildie to afk in the terminus, that MAY or may not work. that being said, i dont condone it, cos it is quite cheap and unfair to many players, something which OOO is striving very hard to prevent.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 19:05
#34
Xuezhou
Hi i would like to do this as

Hi i would like to do this as well, too tired with noobies who cant to it, yet intend to hack, slash, and overall kill themselves in a matter of seconds.I have 4* eqiupment and plenty of experience as Jelly King runs are pretty much all i do these days.

IGN: xuezhou

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 19:33
#35
Broxaim's picture
Broxaim
@crimsonsteel that's why i

@crimsonsteel
that's why i said
that's how i think it works
cos I've actually never tried this myself, just thought about it
i understand that if they introduce an instance ID it would fix that problem.

I'm not sure if this is considered an exploit or not, however if it is allowed i would like to justify this to all the nay sayers

we are playing a game with a limiting resource, energy, and it is only fair that people are allowed to use said energy for the most gain.
just like if i go to the local supermarket it costs a few dollars to get a couple of apples, while I could get a whole boxful for the same price at the farmer's market.
I do wish to use my energy most efficiently.
If this is not allowed, it will be like stealing those apples.
So... I wouldn't mind getting a GM response?

I do see a down side because of this, average crowns per 10 energy will go up, causing inflation to the already high energy prices.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 19:37
#36
Rommil's picture
Rommil
well....

now when this is patched out with the next update, we'll know who to blame. REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAL smart of you to make this thread.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 21:25
#37
Milkshanks
@philidor

My thoughts exactly. Some people here are really missing half a brain.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 21:59
#38
Icycloud's picture
Icycloud
Oh yea

If we players knows how is it being done, do u think the game developers have no ideas about it? What about the so much discuss of van glitches?think people must have their WHOLE of brains missing.Corner bug , zombie bumping,or water fountain there ? get a life man. I Be MORE than happy if they fixed this. So if anyone wanna find me in game so be it. I'm waiting.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 22:12
#39
Rangerwillx's picture
Rangerwillx
I know.

I figured out how it is done today. I'm in 4* gear. Add me.

IGN: Rangerwill

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 22:15
#40
Jaerin
Legacy Username
Perhaps we want it patch out

Perhaps we want it patch out since its an obvious unintended exploit.

Lets even take this one step further and clear the level with collecting as little of the actual loot as possible then at the very end you follow the same procedure.

Invite a person
They go solo
They run through the dungeon and collect all the loot
Rinse repeat

Yes even items on the ground are reproduced.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 22:20
#41
Broxaim's picture
Broxaim
@Shanks: it's okay, i'm all

@Shanks: it's okay, i'm all heart = ]

just trying to even the playing field, and since when was it wrong to help other players out?

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 00:44
#42
Negimasonic's picture
Negimasonic
Like I said, I'm pretty

Like I said, I'm pretty neutral about this, but to anyone saying that the developers obviously know, that's likely true, but the problem comes when too many people are doing such things. That's why they did something a long time ago to heart pendants that made them bound when they're acquired, they used to be free to sell.

I'm fairly certain that what people used to farm love puppies then is the same method as this, the only difference is they're continuing a level instead of coming back over and over to kill one enemy. I don't feel like testing [read: I cannot play] but from what I'm reading I believe perhaps a key step that is missing in the instructions that have been given is they were not told to "return to haven". Should you descend to the next depth, you automatically trigger a moving on flag or whatever. I'm just guessing though.

Anyway, after two whole days this topic is still here, so it's gotta be in some sort of "approved" grey area since its not the worst thing possible, but Jaerin kind of pointed out something that reaaaaally might give some ideas.

I don't particularly care what happens but if any patch comes up about this I simply do not want to lose the ability to rejoin a party I left for whatever reason. Whatever other measures they take are cool.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 03:47
#43
Broxaim's picture
Broxaim
@Jaerin yeah that would work

@Jaerin
yeah that would work well for little effort..
however the party gates will not allow access to the whole level.

in terms of speed.. it would be the fastest.. but not as energy efficient

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 04:10
#44
Azurenightmare
I'm at d16 right now if

I'm at d16 right now if anyone wants to join.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 21:52
#45
Pawn's picture
Pawn
Good job

Hey good job morons. Learn to keep your mouths shut. It kills me how stupid some people can be.
Cheers

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 21:55
#46
Negimasonic's picture
Negimasonic
well this thread had made it

well this thread had made it to page 2 before now. I was figuring it was going to die and that'd almost serve as a temporary solution..

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