Spiral Knights - Damage bonus stacking

Damage bonus stacking

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Mon, 07/04/2011 - 05:37

Morpholomew

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I have a Bristling Buckler, a Wolver Cap, a Wolver Coat and a Hot Edge with UV "Damage Bonus vs Gremlins: High".

Yet when I inspect myself (using that horsehead button to the top right), I see on my Hot Edge that it has "Damage Bonus vs Gremlins: Maximum!"; is this because the Low Damage bonuses from my cap, buckler and coat stack with that? (This would mean if I de-equip my buckler it would become Ultra vs Gremlins, and if I de-equip my coat as well it'd become Very High vs Gremlins. This would also mean that if I had a Skolver Cap instead, the bonus vs Gremlins would not increase.)

If this is the case, I guess I will be a sad panda, because I was planning on getting Barbarous Thorn Shield, the Skolver set and a bunch of swords fit for multiple occassions (meaning with damage bonuses vs certain types of monsters).

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 06:58

Equinox

Game Master

http://wiki.spiralknights.com

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Character

"The icons on the bottom of the character tab show information if you mouseover the icons. The first icon shows the combined stats and bonuses of all your gear. The mouseovers for other slots show the stats and bonuses for each weapon, including any bonuses from gear that affect that particular weapon."

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:03

Morpholomew

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Erm, yeah? And? That's what I

Erm, yeah? And? That's what I said. My point is, on my sword it says "Damage Bonus: Medium" and "Damage Bonus vs Gremlins: Maximum!", even though the only item I have that gives a bonus against Gremlins is that sword, and it has it at High, not Maximum (because UVs only go up to Very High).

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:15

Diggidy

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Unfortunately

It is my understanding that no damage bonus will excede Maximum, and all damage bonuses are cumulative. That is to say, all bonuses to damage are combined in whichever situations they apply, and that total will not go beyond Maximum.

So a sword with Very High dmg bonus against gremlins, plus full skolver gear (Very High sword dmg) will not result in a +8 attack against gremlins. It will cap at 6 (Maximum). Sorry.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:14

Lagretta

UV's go up to Maximum with

UV's go up to Maximum with Bonus.

Ur Sword gives High(3)

High + low + low + low = Maximum!(6)

1: Low
2:medium
3:High
4:Very High
5:Ultra
6:Maximum!

And Skolver gives +2

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:20

Equinox

Game Master

Looking at another Damage

Looking at another Damage Bonus for a family on another sword while wearing the same equipment, it's just adding the gear damage bonus to it.

Edit: Which basically just lets you know that when you hit gremlins, your damage bonus is max! compared to other families when it's just high. And the post above mine explains the max, so the upgraded armor will still help with your damage bonus against other families.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:26

Diggidy

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wat

@Equinox
I don't know what you mean. Could you please elaborate?

[EDIT] Okay, I see. You're just discussing a different aspect of the OP's question than I was.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:33

Volebamus

Morpholomew, there IS a way

Morpholomew, there IS a way to get additional damage against enemies when you have a Skolver Set + Barbarous Thorn Shield, but it's ONLY through using the weapons that the enemies are weak to.

However, this damage bonus does not get multiplied by the Skolver+Skolver+Barbarous, and it's actually added damage on top of the fact. I've done in-depth testing which you can review here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/7342#comment-75570

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 12:54

Ignominious

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To put it simply there are 6

To put it simply there are 6 levels of bonus damage for all of the mob families. +Sword is more like +All, it adds one level of damage to all families. The two bonuses are essentially the same thing and add towards the same cap.

So say you have a barbarous shield (medium sword damage), and the wolver set (2x LoW) and a very high gremlin damage on your sword.

In this case you would have the following

Gremlin - Maximum!
Everything else - Very high

When everything is added up anything that goes over level 6 (Maximum!) is wasted.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:18

Morpholomew

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Yeah, it's clear to me now.

Yeah, it's clear to me now. I'll just try to get a sword with an attack speed or ctr UV.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 18:00

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Ignominious

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ASI and CTR swords are much,

ASI and CTR swords are much, much more expensive. Anything above medium is astronomically expensive. The cheap route that I took was to get ASI off of Vog's armor and use the higher, cheaper damage bonus for families. IE my all purpose set up is

Vogs helm/armor (Very high ASI)
Barb shield (med sword damage)
Acheron (Very high to gremlins)
Final Flourish (Very high to fiends)
DA (none sadly)

For me gremlins and fiends were always the biggest pain, so I tailored my set around taking them down. Also by having the ASI on the armor it transfers to all the weapons, which is especially important for the DA since it leaves you very vulnerable. That way I'm hitting for max damage against what I consider the most troublesome enemies at the cost of a little less vs the ones I consider to not be a threat. A very high family specific sword can cost anywhere from 100-300K cr, which is way less than you'd pay for a very high ASI or CTR.

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