It's called greed, imo. There's been a couple of times where I was killing a monster/breaking a box by myself, and right as it's done, some random player swoops in and grabs the healing capsule that drops before I can pick it up. They're all just waiting and finding the right time to swipe something. ><

Though everyone rushing towards a mineral deposit to get the largest chunk of ore is just silly and amusing.

People help kill treasure boxes because when a vitapod/health pill drops it's first come first serve. It sounds like you're the greedy one if you don't want any other players to be around when you break those boxes.

Crystals only spawn singly in deconstruction areas, so I can't see this happening often. Not only that but crystals are shared, so who cares?

Helping to kill a single monster is called teamwork. Also, I've grouped with many people who are left with one mob to kill and either die or have to fight it for a good 30 seconds before actually killing it. Much faster to help them kill it in 5.

lol u are noob u dont know minerals are shared?
so if someone else take the big one u get your part..;)

You could have posted this to New Recruit section and icluded an explanation for new players, so they know that coins and heat is shared evenly and materials are randomly distributed to the party. Maybe write some useful tips why spliting up is a good thing as well.

I kind of agree, but I think this realy depends on the individual players that are in the party.
Sometimes there is a weak/newer player that NEEDS help with killing one or two enemies.
Sometimes, there are good/skilled/older players that can handle the whole bunch of monsters on their own.
Sometimes, there are players that simply like to break things :D
And yeah, sometimes there are players that would do everything to pick up that coins before you can pick them up.

Haha.
I have seen this from a different prospective.
A guy has cornered 2 gremlin menders in T2.
I guess he can handle it alone and go open the treasure crates.
He kills them without losing health.

He then proceeds to complain to me for not helping him.

It's always more fun with friends and saying "YOINK" into voice chat.

I wonder if pubs appreciate when I type, "YOINK" and take the large mineral, knowing full well we all get the same minerals.

If you change your outlook, you'll have more fun.

It's always more fun with friends and saying "YOINK"

I do this. All the time.

lol@ Wire

Anyway, I'm usually the guy who runs ahead and pulls/kills everything while the others are dicking around with boxes and grass. Can't take my minerals if they aren't around!

The team is helping you collect items. It's not like they are stealing from you. They are just trying to speed things up.

Also, health capsules should be given to those that need it. If you have a health capsule and you see someone who is low health then you should give the capsule to them. The exception is if they are diying every 30 seconds. Then giving the capsule would be a waste.

"So, I'm greedy when I'm low on health and/or out of pills, and I want to increase my chances of grabbing one before someone else who is possibly in the exact opposite situation comes along and yoinks it? I've seen it happen on more than one occasion, both to me and other people."

Imo, using pills when there are other healthy individuals alive is terrible terrible use of a pill.

To me, pills should only be used if:

- You're the last one alive and you'll get one-hit from an enemy's attacks and/or can't revive because you're at too low of Hp
- Your entire party is weak to the point of being wiped out by single attacks.

Using pills during any other time is a waste. You don't need the Hp. If you die I will revive you and I don't care about doing it. What I care about is getting to a Danger Room and having minimal pills amongst the party because people felt the need to use pills when it wasn't necessary. Then we can't do the Danger Room because they are more challenging to the point where pills are much more needed.

Similarly I hate when we get to Vanaduke and nobody has pills because they've been using them. Please, don't use your pills. Just wait it out, smash things that might drop hearts, and play safe if you're worried. Using pills prematurely only wastes hearts that drop in the future. And we can't quite take those hearts with us, can we?

...lol. I suppose in any context, saving pills or not would be seen as a motive inspired by greed. Heat is a non-issue if you're using only one type of gear and not actively leveling it up, especially if its something you use regularly and works quite fine in its current level.

Anyway, in my view, I try to collect pills because -I- make it a point to stay alive, and do a damn good job of doing it. Since I'm a ranged fighter (using mostly guns rather than dive headlong into a hoard), I take the least damage, and at least assure that if everyone else bites it, I can revive them, then use a pill on myself to restore health and continue the process. There's also the bonus that because of my higher health, they can revive with more than just one bar, assuring they won't quickly just die again. Yes, if the run is intended for bosses, I do make it a point not to use pills until then, and if I already reached my 3 pill limit, I make it a point to have other party members collect pills whenever they drop and rely on hearts instead to heal.

I hate it when those gunners steal pills from those who prefer swords and bombs. Example: we started in tier 1, scarlet bishop gate, hit tier 2. All went on to moorcraft. Was ticker because I was ark doing RL stuff, and I had to let my brother play so I didn't log out and waste my energy. He decided to change my loadout from an autogun and a cutter to a cutter and a troika. He was carried through 1-2 levels, and gave it right back after he left the town right before the jelly palace. I was outtake pills and had an energy cost of 80 now, so I was kinda ticked off. Later, everyone else switches to guns and I try to go to my autogun. I get out a troika. Against the lumbers. I finally get 1 pill, the rest are being hogged by the gunners, and upon asking for a few pills, I got told no, you die to fast. I was dieing once every 5-10 minutes, against mobs (usually the bombers and/or lumbers that surrounded me), and that it wasn't worth losing the pills. 2 depths later, they sorely regretted it. Someone brought a shivermist and an argent peacemakers, and another had brought two handguns. One minute later, im slashing away at the king, and they are all lying on the ground. (Did I mention that the only sword that was brought, other than mine, was in the flourish chain?) Boy, they regretted not giving me a pill each. Wink wink keep an even distributation of pills around the party. And sinxe they kept rezzing into that berserk attack, I leveled my troika from 4 to 6 and a half that run alone.

"If one guy is at full HP with 3 capsules and the rest are near death that means the 3 almost dead guys are being carried by a really good player. He is saving pills for when it may actually be needed while the other 3 are just wasting HP. "

LOL :D
Well, judging by some posts in this thread, some players actually think about it this way :D

Well, if they are aparently "noobs" (or newbies, it's sometimes realy hard to tell), then it is safer to keep all those pills for yourself.
I was originaly going to post that I usualy do this, too, but changed my mind.

So yeah, if the rest of the group are players that obviously have no idea about what are they doing, then I tend to grab all those pills for myself, too.
Because chances are, they wouldn't revive me if I die... so I'd better make sure not to die if I don't want to waste my energy.

But if they are equaly experienced players and some of them just could use a health pill while one player have full health and 3 health pills in his inventory... then it's pretty much clear those who need HP should get their pill... at least in my opinion ;)

Fortunately I'm a gunner - so my life expectancy is pretty high. I never mind when ppl take pills because most of the times, even in arenas and danger rooms, while they're dying I'll be still alive.

I am amazed when I get a bad player though - the one who pickes up 3-5 health pills and still dies a few times... I'll ask how many pills they have and they are always out >_< Gah - thank god I'm a gunner...

As a gunner - I try to grab at least 1-2 pills as we dive, so that I can revive other ppl and sustain the party... but the first pills always go to whoever I feel is doing the best with swords, and I'll even go as far as pm'ing them to ask how many pills they have, and if they aren't at 3 before a tough room, I'll go hide in a corner to drop some for them.

There is a lot of greed motivation on all sides - I think it is important to know who is doing what for the party. There are some mobs that, as a gunner, I can solo entirely with 3 dead ppl on the ground... I also know there are some things I just cannot solo... For my part, I am greedy and want a dive to make as much profit as I can, which means taking as few deaths as possible, and avoiding any energy revives. This means balancing pills between my stash for emergencies, and keeping the "carry" at full health.