Spiral Knights - Ultimate Gear Combination

Ultimate Gear Combination

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Mon, 07/04/2011 - 13:36

Toysoldieroo

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Hi everyone. I wanna know firstly what the best Tier/Section is for getting crowns and heat. Im aware JK runs are very profitable but with Tier 3 Gear is there anything better. Also comments or improvements on my Gear would be great.

Divine Veil UV Freeze Medium
Vog Coat
Acheron
Glacius
Barbarus Thorn Shield

Now the gear is based on the basic amount of slots you have and im not picky on UVs just yet wanna have a way of making decent crowns and heat before i start for the Ultimate Gear.

Would i be right in saying that if i had two 5* Star Gear sets, one concentrating on Normal/Elemental and one Normal/Shadow i would be set for any situation in game?

Lastly should i invest in the extra slot and get a gun or bomb. If so which and what?

Thanks.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 13:54

Metaphysic

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FSC is more profitable, but

FSC is more profitable, but more difficult, than JK runs. Raw crown-wise it's comparable, but factoring in 4-5 star materials FSC blows JK out of the water.

You only need one gear set to deal with any situation in the game. More than one set is just if you have money to burn or are not particularly good at avoiding damage. I've done fiend/graveyard levels with no shadow defense; it's really not a big deal as long as you're careful.

In terms of weapon slots, you need a gun or bomb if you're going to kill vanaduke. You can either get a gun (any gun, doesn't matter) or a shivermist bomb, but if you don't have at least one of the two you can't do anything to be helpful on the boss. Shivermist is more useful overall, but I can guarantee you'll run into situations when not having a gun is going to make your life very difficult.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 13:58

Sunless

Raw crown-wise it's

Raw crown-wise it's comparable

Pffft. You can earn about 10,000 crowns, on average, in the Firestorm Citadel. With Jelly King, it's maybe 5,000 - give or take. Hardly comparable, my good man.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 14:03

Ignominious

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It's a pretty balanced set up

It's a pretty balanced set up without any glaring weaknesses. It lacks piercing defense but meh, easy enough to avoid and your shield shouldn't break from a few shots. Personally I would switch out the glacius for a DA because you have no real ranged attack. It's great for hitting switches, killing puppies behind spikes/gaps, killing exploding blocks, and batting away enemies. The charge attack is also phenomenal in FSC, arenas, and slime danger rooms.

My first 5* setup was a DA, acheron, and a final flourish with vogs helm/armor and a barb shield. You can ditch the flourish if you avoid fiend areas or simply switch over to your glacius for them, that will work well enough. You rarely need more than 2 swords for any given stratum. With just a DA and acheron fiends were a bit of a problem so I got a third sword, though early on I only used the 2 base weapon slots. With a balanced sword set up I never really feel the need for a gun or bomb since the DA provides a lot of that utility. I did eventually open up the 3rd slot for my 3rd sword but that's because I'm stupid and kept forgetting to switch.

Personally I went 2x vogs because being able to shield sooner or get the interrupt off faster and get out of danger worked against everything. I found I was able to use that everywhere and rely on avoidance. Just couldn't play when too sleepy or I'd get destroyed.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 14:07

Njthug

Time?

Fsc runs take longer than Jelly King run you can probably do two jelly king runs faster than doing all of FSC....so it evens out

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 14:33

Metaphysic

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There's absolutely no way you

There's absolutely no way you will get 10k from FSC. Perhaps you should track your crown gains instead of making numbers up?

You will make roughly 7k from a full FSC run but it takes longer than JK. Considering crowns per hour, I think they're roughly equal before material costs are considered.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:00

Sunless

Perhaps you should track your

Perhaps you should track your crown gains instead of making numbers up?

I did, but cool accusation.

But, as you said, time-wise, they even out.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:29

Orangeo

Why say noral elemental or

Why say normal and elemental or normal and shadow gear in the original post? For example, drake scale has peircing and elemental, silvermail has shadow and peircing, and divine veil/cloak have elemental and shadow. Wheres your god now fools? Mixed race armor! Allrighty, let me explain the best well roundedest armor ever:

Valkyrie helm(angelic)
Even shadow and normal defense, ressistance to posin and curse, weakness to fire, medium bonus damage to feind.
With:
Dragon scale mail (drake)
Even elemental and peircing defense, ressistance to fire, medium damage bonus to feind
Overall:
(and you can switch helms/armor for valkyrie armor w/ dragon helm and get the same overall, but you need drake recipie for silvermail, more useful):
All four forms of defense, ressistance to posin and curse, and a medium bonus against feinds and beasts.

Nice right? Well another convinient thing is that beast's and feinds are both weak to peircing, so you can use a shadow and a elemental weapon for each weapon slot to have some type of above neuteral damage against all monsters. Plus, for shedow weapons, you can use faust cause you have curse resist.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:42

Master-Gunslinger

Well, a "all around" armor

Well, a "all around" armor set is actually pretty terrible. You take a good bit of damage from everything, and having no resistance to fire or shock can be deadly. And while nothing can have great damage against you, you won't be protected well against anything. Getting multiple sets are way more beneficial in the end, especially for FSC.

Also, since most melee attacks in T3 are partial normal, you want to seriously switch up gears for FSC. Zombies hit half normal, meaning Dragon Scale wont protect at all, other than fire resists. With that setup you have 25% normal 25% shadow, where as a full Vog setup would have 50% normal, making it the same amount of defense against zombies (keeping in mind that Vanaduke and Trojans deal pure normal), but you can also protect against the 2nd most common attack in T3 elemental, and you have twice as much fire resist.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:03

Toysoldieroo

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Changed it up.

Thanks guys for the replys. So now im thinking.

Divine Veil UV Freeze medium with a Vog Cap switch.
Vog Coat
Acheron
Divine Avenger
Storm Driver
Barbarus Thorn Shield

Ill invest in a second weapon slot and JK seems like the best. Reasoning is i can run through jk with the team i have so i reckon the quicker the better.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 05:44

#10

Metaphysic

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@Replicant Here's my last 5

@Replicant
Here's my last 5 FSC runs
24 - 866, 950, 951, 904, 926
25 - 1742, 1704, 1691, 1782, 1730
26 - 1704, 1990, 1862, 1764, 1847
27 - 2103, 2021, 2163, 2178, 2101
28 - always under 200

So I really have to ask, where are you getting this extra 3k CR?

JK is the safe option, because there's little risk of death and almost everybody can do it. FSC is the riskier option because it's harder and the gear requirement is higher, but the payout can be crazy when you get material drops like flame souls, trojan horseshoes, and sun silvers. I've made almost 35k from a single FSC run, whereas the best JK run I've ever had was only about 8k CR.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 06:20

#11

Tom-Awsm

@DrLequack Allow me to

@DrLequack

Allow me to propose a better all-round set:

Divine Veil - Even Elemental and Shadow defense, Resistance to Fire, Shock and Curse, medium damage bonus against fiends

Skolver Coat - (un-even) Normal and Piercing defense (more normal than piercing, which is good), Resistance to Freeze, medium sword damage bonus

So instead of your "All four forms of defense, ressistance to posin and curse, and a medium bonus against feinds and beasts."

you get All four forms of defense, Resistance to Fire, Shock, Curse and Freeze, a medium bonus against fiends, and a medium sword damage bonus.

Beat that!

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 06:50

#12

Betrael

It's funny to see people try

It's funny to see people try to cover all the bases with one set of gear.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 09:30

#13

Bigfootm

@betrael

Its possible though.
Get a Crown of the Fallen with MAX shadow resist and a Divine Mantle with MAX Elemental resist, then get some fire and freeze trinkets from Brinks. With your weapons, Get a DA with either Damage vs Undead V. High or no UV at all. Same with a Argent Peacemaker. Finally, get a shivermist buster with some type of CTR. (Heat levels would work). Lastly, for your shield, get a Volcanic Plate Shield with some type of Shadow or Fire resist. There you go, that's how you cover it all.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 09:51

#14

Richy

I have all basis covered in

I have all basis covered in my armor, seems to work out pretty well. My gear goes

Cold Iron Vanquisher
Divine Veil
Skolver Coat
Dragon Scale Sheild
Shivermist Buster
Blackhawk

It works out pretty well because I never need to change gear for a certain level, can always just go do whatever I want without having to remember to do all the changes.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 11:58

#15

Mohandar

Piercing is still overrated...

Vog Coat, high shock
Volcanic Demo, high shadow
Grey Owlite/Crest of Almire
Shadow trinkets/heart pendant/dual pierce trinkets
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Leviathan
Divine Avenger/Thorn Blade/Faust (dependent on situation)
Storm Driver/Silversix (FSC only)
Ash of Agni/Dark Briar Barrage

Sometimes I'll sub in Shivermist, or replace the Levi with another sword depending on strata. This setup works fantastic for basically all levels... because piercing defense is pretty much a non-issue. You can shield a hit or two and take a hit or two- though if you're good you shouldn't be taking any hits at all from Wolvers and Jellies. Normal, elemental, and shadow damage should be your priorities, in roughly that order. Ideally you'd make a normal/elemental setup and a normal/shadow setup for Fiend strata (levels with lots of dangerous shadow usually have very little elemental, and vice versa), and just play cautious when facing piercing. Or run around spamming DBB/Ash like a headless chicken until everything is cooked or pincushioned.

Tue, 07/05/2011 - 13:51

#16

Prisega

Replicant, where are you

Replicant, where are you getting your numbers for JK runs? I make 7k easily and more typically, 8k. You can make 5000 crowns from the last 3-4 levels alone.

You shouldn't worry about covering so many different weaknesses because that will only make you average at best. If you plan on running to Vanaduke a lot then you'll probably want to invest in Elemental and Fire defenses (Your Vog Cub cap). You also want to focus on whatever you have trouble with the most (which would probably be Vanaduke)

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