Spiral Knights - CE calculator when you have less than 5-6k

CE calculator when you have less than 5-6k

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Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:31

ninjajpbob

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I was thinking there should be a way to buy a like less than 100 ce with the money you would have so, here's the idea.

You hit a button that considers all your cr and calculates the ce it will give you and you also have the option of putting the amount of cr and see what ce you get.

E.g. you sell blaze pepper for 300 in the AH, you need like 5ce or whatever, then you go to the Market button and put in 300 (the result of ce will come like google instant, or you can hit a calculate button incase java can't do that...lol) and you hit transmute! and tada you get your 5ce based on current market price...

Sorry if this is introduced, and if this economically hurts 3 rings, just say YES.

Thank you, plz give feedback.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:37

Autofire

You can already kind of do

You can already kind of do this. Just use the trade channel and give your offer. Of course, most people won't buy/sell CE from you if you give a bad price, so you still have to consider that.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 15:54

ninjajpbob

Legacy Username

Trade channel is horrible.

To be honest, a calculator is the quickest way to get the job done, meaning calculating rising ce on the go.

I don't give bad prices, but whenever I state and offer, the prices changes and people change their perspective about you and then ignore you.

Unless you know any good traders, I'll take this calc as an option.

We could put it up like and Auction House/ Organ donation method (first come, first serve)

So for anything below 100 ce you pay extra cr to put the offer up, at the time the person who needs a little ce decides to by it with the calculator, but the cr will go to the person who posted the deal, then the next person will get his/her chance, and so on and so forth.

The player will always make a profit out of the cr because they'll post the offer before the ce prices rise again...

Whether or not there should be a listing fee, or a deduction of cr up to the point to cutting the profit, is up to SK devs...

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:01

Koffin-Kat

yeah

Actually, buying small amounts of CE in-game may be extremely useful in Clockwork.

You know, when you find yourself nearly out of energy and need like 7 more energy to pay the elevator to the next level.
I usualy end up without energy right before Snarbolax Lair (yes, I fail horribly at counting how much energy I need to reach certain Clockwork levels), and since it's only T1, rest of the party members usualy don't have any CE.

So - in case you can use the in-game energy market while in Clockwork - I would like to see the possibility to buy small amount of CE via the in-game market.

EDIT: actually, nevermind... I realized that people in T2 and T3 probably don't have this problem... But at least in T1, it could be useful.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:07

Orangeo

Transmuteing energy?

Transmuteing energy? Now you aren't really trading with anyone, so that brings more energy into the game. If 100 CE happened to cost 1000 crowns (YESS WHOLLY YESS BUY BUY BUY), then 1 CE would equal 10 crowns. So I make 1000 crowns, and instead of buying it with the market, I use your idea and make 100 of 1 CE units for 10 each. Whop da whoop, 100 CE just got born into the world without money. Three rings just got yucked up their gass. Same for anyone who buys CE with money, Now the price is gonna drop like crazy becuase if there is twice as much CE in existance, then 100 unit's will only sell for half as much. Now there is no point in buying it whatsoever exept for mabey a starter pack/rose regalia bonus. The profit in this game comes from the fact that people will always be spending crowns to get CE. Like when you go into a gate. CE down, crown up. This lowers crown value, and highetens CE value, resulting in a nice tender CE price. This brings reason to buy it with real money, becuase that's always gonna be 7500 CE for 20 bucks, no matter what. Although i liked it better around 4.5, I'm content with 5k for 100 CE.

And since it's based on player made price, you could scam the crap out of it. Say you posted an offer of 100 CE for 6 crowns. THen you and your buddies could just hit "Transmute 50 CE for 3 crowns!" over and over untill someone buys their offer. That means if me and my buddies can hit that button 1500 times total before my 100 for 6 offer is bought, then we can make 750 CE for only 9k. 9k is about enough currently to buy just 200 CE. This also means that 9k is equal to the 3 dollar offer for 750. so 3000 crowns would be a dollar. I can make 6k from a jelly run, if I'm lucky, so that's 2 bucks. Why would i pay money if I can make 2 bucks worth of crowns in about an hour?

Originaly, I figured that you ment an in-game calculator for hand to hand trading so you can see if the guy's ripping you off. Basicaly, it would say 1CE IS CURRENTLY WORTH 10CROWNS or something, so you'd hit times 50 and tada, now you know the guys stealing your limbs when he says "I'm selling 50 CE for 175CR". Of course, those are all imaginary numbers, and I'd jump on the opportunity to get 50 CE for 175 crowns.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:10

Orangeo

Wow, I shure made a monster

Wow, I shure made a monster post up there. Hah. Seriously, dosen't seem like a good idea.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:13

Koffin-Kat

Transmute energy?

Transmute energy? What?

Players would sell the energy they bought with their money, as well as they can sell 100 units of it.
Only some players would (hopefully) post offers of amounts smaller than 100.

If this makes a sense...

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:35

Orangeo

Re:Noctuelle

That makes sense Noctuelle, but it didn't seem like what the original post had said.

blah blah ...[If] you sell blaze pepper for 300 in the AH, you need like 5ce or whatever, then you go to the Market button and put in 300 (the result of ce will come like google instant, or you can hit a calculate button incase java can't do that...lol) and you hit transmute! and tada you get your 5ce based on current market price... blah blah blah

and you hit transmute!

transmute!

See he said the naughty word. What i THINK he means (dare to prove me wrong please;) Is that if the price of CE is at 5000, then I can MAKE 50 CE for 2500, without trading with another player. You can't be allowed to make ce come out of nowhere from no one without paying money, that's the point of paying money.

On the other hand Noctuelle, your idea seems useful, but it would be hard to track the price or make sense of the market if people could sell 1CE at a time. I think they should just allow you to sell CE in the auction house, for any unit less than 100, and make an in game AH so you don't have to leave your party to make it. Same for alchemy machines. I buy a fugging recipie from basil, have all the materials to make it, but have to skip using it on vanaduke becuase the alchemy machene is all the way back in the arcade.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 16:36

Orangeo

That, and don't make anything

That, and don't make anything like google instant, becuase i dont want to type in "5 CE" and have it go "did you mean porn?" Or something stupid like that.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:47

ninjajpbob

Legacy Username

uhh...

The ce doens't come out of nowhere... it comes from the person you are "trading with", the market tab is simply a medium...

So, say in your situation 100ce = 1000 and a person how wanted to make 500 dollars atm (with the risk ) he would put up 50 energy (listing fee or not) and say the next day the price rises to 2k for 100ce, he only made 500 because of the time he put the offer, the rest would go into cyberspace, making it fair for three rings. Meaning the buyer of of the 50 ce when the price is 2k for 100ce is paying 1000k for the 50, and the guy who posted the 50ce wouldn't make a profit, but would only get what he posted for at the time, obviously the lowest price will eventually get depleted, leaving the higher prices only...

Idk where the word transmute came from lol... sorry

P.S. you name reminded me of courage (the cowardly dog...) :D

Be google instant, i meant the calculation would appear/change as you complete typing the number, don't be foolish.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:45

#10

Koffin-Kat

@ DrLequack "That makes

@ DrLequack

"That makes sense Noctuelle, but it didn't seem like what the original post had said."
Ah-hah. Thought you were reacting to my post / or more exactly - didn't read the whole post of the OP and didn't realize he was talking about something a bit different :D /

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:49

#11

Orangeo

Why yes, it is from courage

Why yes, it is from courage ^_^. Just joking about the google instant. Now it makes sense to me, your first post seemed a little off. It didn't seem like you were really trading with anyone, I thought you'd just take half the CE price and buy 50 CE from the computer. THAT wouldn't work. Your new post seems makes sense, so I could, say, post a 100 offer for 5200 and it could say "someone has bought half of your offer for 5200, here's 2600 crowns!" but I couldn't keep using the same offer to "transmute" ce for crowns.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:51

#12

Orangeo

@Noctuelle

He seems to be saying something more like what you said now. He was talking about something like that, he just said it wrong.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 17:55

#13

Orangeo

I think people should only be

I think people should only be able to post offers to buy/sell 100 CE at a time, but if you took a current offer, you could do any given precentage (rouned up) of that 100 listed CE. It minimizes buttons and confusion, plus keeps a nice constant, traceble price. Still, if someone buy's half, that leaves a half offer, and since there are supposed to be only 100CE offer's listed, someone could post a CE price for 10k, and buy 1 precent of each offer below him to knock them off the list. Darn, I need a new idea now....

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 18:05

#14

Koffin-Kat

@ DrLequack

"He seems to be saying something more like what you said now. He was talking about something like that, he just said it wrong."

hehe... yeah, that makes a sense... :D
Jk, I just like how you said that.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 18:07

#15

Orangeo

Did I say it wrong?

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