Spiral Knights - mixing bonus damages and damage types

mixing bonus damages and damage types

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Thu, 07/07/2011 - 13:21

angelgod

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sure this was posted b4 but couldnt find it

i have some questions about mixing UV's with bonus from gear.

1.
low + low =?
med + low =?
med + med =?
high + low=?
....

2.
And does UV's count as much as gear bonus?

3.
max damage with sword + low damage vs slimes = max damage with sword vs slimes?

and does monster specific bonus damage, and type bonus damage scale the same as normal damage?

example:
ash tail set vs virulisk set on slimes? do they give the same damage?

example:

4. low damage with sword + low damage vs slimes + low shadow damage = ?
5. low damage with sword + low damage vs slimes + low piercing damage = ?
6. low damage with sword + low damage vs slimes + low elemental damage = ?

another question: i got a silversix (elemental + piercing damage with UV low damage vs constructs) and it does low damage vs constructs, low damage vs slimes and normal damage vs fiends and low damage vs beasts;

shouldnt the bonus nulify ea other and be normal damage to beasts for example? and on guys like fiends shouldnt it do high damage?

7. constructs?
8. slimes?
9. fiends?
10. beasts?

Thu, 07/07/2011 - 13:58

yonfire

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I'm still new to the game so

I'm still new to the game so im not as qualified as others but:

First reference here > http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Abilities for the rating I.E... low+low =2 = MED

Next, UV's still arn't really known how they work as far as armor and resistances. Weapons are easy sauce though see the above or here for a quick crash corse on UV's > http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Unique_variants

3. Max damage from swords means max against all monsters(using a sword that is), having a slime UV is a little redundant at that point but say you have this:
Sword with UV MED vs Slimes and Full skolver (each peice has damage bonus to swords MED so thats two MED damage bonuses.)
Med + Med = Very High damage against everything with swords,
if you are fighting slimes with a sword than you now have Med + Med + Med= Maximum Damage VS Slimes becuase of your sword UV.

If you are using a sword with ashtail than yes the damage increase is the same as Virulisk.

For the record though just becuase it says low damage does not mean that it is doing lower damage than usual, that is a buff to damage it does against a certain type of enemy. Example-
Sword- Deals normal damage
Sword UV Low Construct- Deals normal damage PLUS an EXTRA little bit of damage if the enemy is a construct.

hope this helped. GL

4-10 I dont really understand what you are asking... sry.

Thu, 07/07/2011 - 14:39

angelgod

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@yonfire

thx those 2 links clarified most my questions, nvm 4-10 points.

just confused about something:
about your point 3 answer. imagine u had sword with uv very high vs slimes and full skolver. would the skolver bonuses be useless?

Thu, 07/07/2011 - 15:46

yonfire

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It depends, heres why: Very

It depends, heres why:

Very high = 4 on the scale
and skolver also gives 4 so against SLIMES yes one peice of Skolver would be wasted, but against every other type of creature the UV for slime would do nothing and the Skovler set would still yield you Very high additional damage to swords. (but keep in mind skolver is 5* takes a little bit to get up there so having the UV and ashtail nothing is wasted)

If your looking for a set that will make jelly runs/stratum pretty easy and you use swords alot than I'd say go with:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Skolver_Cap
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Skolver_Coat
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Barbarous_Thorn_Shield

They all at 5* offer sword damage bonus MED (2-4* LOW), which does stack so you end up doing max sword damage all the time, if you use mainly swords this may be the way to go, assuming you arnt getting destroyed by different damage types.

I run shivermist, levi, avenger, and soon to be one of the antiguas. I know people would say i need a shadow weapon but thats what i use my levi for =D
and the above armors/shield combo. Shiv to hold um in place, charge up a sword and wreek havok =D

**Quick note: Again I am still new to the games, i just have been reading and asking my own questions lately. In short this is not a "for sure you need to do this" type of response, in my opinion at this point in my game play it works for me, just dont want you or anyone reading thinking that this is the way to do this all the time. =P **

Thu, 07/07/2011 - 16:34

angelgod

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@yonfire

the problem is this is not very clear;

from http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Unique_variants:

In general, weapon bonuses will make your weapon more effective. These bonuses are separate from bonuses that the weapon would naturally gain. For example, a gun can have a unique reduction in charge time, in addition to the standard charge time reduction bonus that it gains when it reaches level 5.

it doesnt clear if a CTR very high would go with CTR from the weapon;

btw in wiki says u cant get ultra in armor so a high with a medium is what, and low with very high, and 5 lows, and all the possible combos?

Fri, 07/08/2011 - 08:21

yonfire

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If you read it carefully and

If you read it carefully and apply the context it's pretty dead on:

All weapons get CTR at lvl 5 and 10 so if it has a CTR UV they stack.
For instance:
Sword LvL 1 - No bonus
Sword LvL 5 - CTR low
Sword Lvl 10 -CTR Med
(the above is standard for most if not all weapons)

But if a sword has a UV for CTR low, just for instance:
At the below lvls the same happens, but the UV stacks on:
Sword LvL 1 - No bonus + Ctr Low UV = CTR low
Sword LvL 5 - CTR low + Ctr Low UV = CTR MED
Sword Lvl 10 -CTR Med + Ctr Low UV = CTR high

Quote from yourself:
"it doesnt clear if a CTR very high would go with CTR from the weapon;"
From WIkI
"a gun CAN have a unique (unique is UV) reduction in charge time, in addition (this means UV plus what the gun gets at lvl 5 & 10) to the standard charge time reduction bonus that it gains when it reaches level 5."

"btw in wiki says u cant get ultra in armor so a high with a medium is what, and low with very high, and 5 lows, and all the possible combos?"
It means you cant get a UV on its own to say ULTRA, but if you have a med and a high UV they will read as ultra on your character sheet.
UV's can have:
Low
Med
High
Very High
MAX

The only way to reach ultra is by combining 2 or more UV's(as i said above).

Fri, 07/08/2011 - 09:38

cenyth

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re: silversix

re: silversix
silversix does piercing + elemental damage
monster resistances > monster weaknesses

constructs = resist piercing, weak to ele -> low damage
slimes = resist piercing, normal vs ele -> lower damage
fiends = weak to piercing, normal vs ele -> slightly higher damage
beasts = weak to piercing, resist ele -> low damage

In the end silversix only does slighter higher damage to fiends and undead, IIRC.

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