I'm not a great, skillful fighter, but I've gotten a lot better at using the controls (which I switched to my arrows and left right click on mouse). I find it easier to solo even in tier 3. I don't get surprised by the monsters and I get all the health pills. And I get all the mats, so it's much more profitable. And the treasure boxes are mine, ALL MINE! Perversely, I only do parties for a bit of limited social interaction or for the challenge since they are more difficult (and 4 players in a stratum 4 or higher in a graveyard is almost undoable). I'm pretty sure a lot of the really good 5*-equipped players feel the same. Thoughts?
Have you given up on all parties almost completely?
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 15:54
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 16:07
#2
Meh.
I play the game to play with others. If I were to solo only, I'd get very bored and probably quit lol.
Then again, I play with my guild members so we complete stuff pretty smoothly.
Random Groups are almost always fail because there's a high chance of getting.. uh..crappy players :3 (sorry lack of a better term)
I hate having to pull all the weight in group when your random group team keeps dying over and over and over :( thats when i give up haha.
but on the upside, you can revive them and nom up all that exp!
and yup..im in mostly 5* gear :)
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 16:20
#3
blam
I'm not a bad player at all, but i still like playing in parties especially as then its not just about grinding then getting out of a dungeon and telling people about how much crowns you have. Sure I have more derps playing in parties when my lagg goes crazy, but it just means i don't have to use as much CE on revives; and i don't have to ragequit when i start getting 5 seconds because i cbs reving... or when there is a long stretch of 3 break blocks in a graveyard and I only have bombs.
And as for random parties, i quite enjoy them, especially when i don't want to disturb my friends online. Sure I get those player who insist on using some of the worst gear possible (I don't mean there is and terribly awful gear, its just how they use them.... kamikaze cutter players =p?) or who insist on using all their revives before the boss and calling out for help when they die in 5 seconds and have no CE left for revs. However I have some of the most fun in random parties... In fact i feel lonely dungeoning on my own. Sorry, but i miss your point and don't agree.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 16:51
#4
I solo or group with
I solo or group with guild-mates for most excursions.
I'll sometimes join pug's on T1 or T2. I almost never join pug's in T3.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 16:55
#5
I almost never party with
I almost never party with anyone else, especially if I'm going for profit runs since I refuse to -not- wait for an Arena. I know most won't want to wait, so I don't party with anyone.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:01
#6
My philosophy
I'll play in PUGs for tier 1 and the first half of T2. I've run into some pretty good and friendly players there and the extra heat is wonderful if you end up carrying a weaker party in those easy levels. Once we get to the T2 terminal, however, I typically leave unless the group I'm in seems pretty competent/well-geared. Coming upon a danger room in the second half of T2 when you've been carrying a bunch of clumsies and have no health or pills left is just too saddening. So, almost the only groups I'll be in for the second half of T2 or the entirety of T3 are made up of my Guild members. They're almost all better players than I am.
All that being said, going solo almost always seems a lot easier to me. Except on devilite-themed levels. When they can all aim at me, life sucks - especially in T3.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:13
#7
I used to play in groups
I used to play in groups because I thought that's how the game was played. Then I realized you could solo and have been happy ever since. XD
But I do rage sometimes when the amount of enemies to me is like 10:1. 1 word: Arena... My absolute worst arena comp to date had 8 Alpha Voltails and 8 Sparkies... It started off with all 8 turrets attacking me (which should rarely happen...). Goodluck to 'anyone' in that situation (yes I died).
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:16
#8
Heat & PUGs
Every so often when I am adding heat to lower level weapons, I'll do a random Jelly PUG and vampire heat from the kamikaze players. If they get killed too often in inconvenient places and pester for a raise, there is always /ignore or leave group. PUGs are only as tedious as you allow them to be. Otherwise, I mostly solo or play with real life friends who play the same MMOs I've played for several years.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:16
#9
Solo vs grouping...
I am a skilled player. This sort of game is my bread and butter (WoW ended up being a little too cerebral) and I generally carry my groups when necessary. Having said that, I ran with a group yesterday to run the new content and one of the four of us had run it previously. I was grateful to have that person in the group during the boss fight. I spent a fair amount of my own health reviving the team leader. (Heat!) Running on my laptop rather than my desktop, I was lagging somewhat and wasn't playing my best, which made me grateful for the group dynamic.
I think running solo is immensely beneficial for learning monster patterns, how to dodge, effective reach of weapons and so on. If you want to get good at this game, you have to spend some time running solo. It is the best way to roll if you want to collect materials in T3 and maximize your profit margins. I've never gotten anything stellar from a treasure box, so I don't worry about that. Agreed, graveyards are always better solo, I think. Most people just get too freaked out and can't handle more than one phantom. Most of the PUGs I have run with in graveyards are like 'ok run through'.
I go solo and stomp the crap out of those zombies and phantoms. It's what I love best.
PUGs in T1 are always amusing and fun, in my experience. T2 is generally good and I've never been burned running one. Once upon a time, I did a PUG in T3 with an arena, and the guy I was running with invited his two friends that had 2* gear. Not sure how that worked, but they died repeatedly, pleading for revives in their limited English and were generally upsetting. Not entirely their fault but I was incredibly frustrated and couldn't finish the level. I should have booted them instead of leaching heat and finished the level.
All told, I prefer running with people that I know in real life. My guild consists entirely of friends and family that I've introduced to the game. However, I have gotten to run with some pretty awesome folks and prefer playing in groups.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:41
#10
well, im playing since a
well, im playing since a couple of days and i can say, some players in partys are a nice support and know what they do, playing with them always makes fun, even when you die because a lack of concentration or you just are unlucky, they will revive you and fight the enemies successfully back.
but then, there are some other kind of players, so here are my "meetings of the special kind":
1) "rezz me plz" or simply "heeelp"
- this kind of player keeps just dying, either by clueless rushing into a lots of creeps or just dont blocking/evading at all, and the worst is: your own lifeforce drops pretty much down over time, due to each rezzing costs the half of your healthpoints
- i personally dont wish to let them down, but there should be a limit, how often i am supposed to revive really, really (and really really) bad players, sometimes im just wondering what they are in reallife, maybe some sleepy hamsters on computers or some kind of food, that layed to long in the sun and became alive? (its not meant as insult though, i still like you :) )
2) "im a gunslinger (and i have to shoot down EVERY block in the level)"
- this kind of player loves it, admires it and probably enjoys it to shoot down every block on the map, this wouldnt be a problem though, but some of this guys tend to shoot every exploding block they just see, more likely then, when a mate is standing right next to it
- i like gunslingers, as i have fun to keep the bad creeps away for them, while they can shoot them, but some of them enjoy it, to just stand pretty close to their targets - only to get often hit by them and then becoming the kind "1"
3) "CHARGE AND STRIKE!"
- this kind of player enjoys it to charge up their calibur to release a powerful knockback-attack - exactly in an angle, where the creeps shoot over to some teammates, preferably the already badly hurt ones, so they just can die from the following nearly instant attack (at best from some tree-robots)
4) "i dont need a rezz, i have plenty of energy left"
- this kind of player is not necessarily a problem for the party, but just some hard waste of CE here, they could wait at least the few seconds someone needs to revive them
- DO NEVER pay everything for them, they will waste you CE hard! ive seen this just one time, 1 guy kept dying and used really much energy from a teammate (who was kind enough to auto-pay the entire groups revive cost, if needed), like 300 at max for just this one guy, the rezzing cost for the group reached at some point 960 crowns (at jelly king), so we had to abort then and go home (but still shocking, how much CE some people can cost, if you pay for them - the poor, kind guy, he had at start 3000 CE and then lost much of it :( )
5) "im a snail, wait plz"
- this kind of player lacks in speed, he just falls behind everytime and stands sometimes just there, doing nothing (maybe reading messages or writing a cooking-book?)
- its just annoying to wait at the lift for a single player, who is standing right next to it, but doesnt wants to get in, for some strange reason (like seeing ghosts in their room or starting to sleep in front of their screen or maybe watching a cute and sexy fly sitting on their food)
well, partys are funny, at least sometimes, if you have the right sense for it.
i personally prefer to soloing the game or just choose my companions wisely, as i dislike failing at easy stages, because my mates suck.
im not perfect either, so i need at least a litte backup, if the monsters are stronger because of more players fighting alongside me.
with the right people its more fun than playing alone, i guess. if you focus on getting good equipment or making progress in the game, choose wisely among your mates.
with some people it just gets to hard to reach the end, and the purpose of a party isnt soloing it, because you are the last man standing^^
and always remember: you are a god amongst the players! never forget that!
PS: i was type 3, the charging one, and i sometimes killed or hurt my mates with it, so i changed my weapon and style, and now they can live happily forever, without getting slashed or whacked or eaten by something *sniff*
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:49
#11
I'm T1/early T2, and I like
I'm T1/early T2, and I like both fighting solo and in party.
When I fight solo, I can break pretty much everything breakable to see if there doesn't happen to be a lost coin somewhere without slowing the group. I can also try different strategies as all monsters are focusing on me. I like trying to solo T2 for the challenge, but still keep dying :D
I enjoy fighting in goups with my SK friends or guild mates, because it's just a great fun and we don't laugh at each other when one of us (or all of us :D) do something wrong and die.
I also like to fight in random parties, because I realy enjoy random conversations in SK and random parties are good for meeting people I've never met before (and you never know where or when you find another good in-game friend :) ).
EDIT: Also, I have to say that I realy like Achim's post :D :D
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:44
#12
haha. I enjoyed your post
haha. I enjoyed your post Achim :)
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 17:49
#13
Most players are just bad at
Most players are just bad at the game. If you're even reasonably good and you join a PUG, it's likely that at least 2 of the 3 players will be either undergeared or just plain bad.
This is really just a problem with multiplayer games in general. If you're good at a game, most players you run into will just frustrate you with their lack of skill. The only solution is to either join an elite/hardcore guild and only group with those players, primarily play alone, or have the infinite patience required to put up with people being terrible and/or stupid.
I generally make it a priority to find a guild full of good players, but I haven't been able to find one in this game. It seems every guild has at least some terrible players who just make you facepalm.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 18:11
#14
try that
If you people run into some players that keep dying, you could try to give them a piece of advice or two and see if that helps.
If it helps, they were dying because they don't have experience with certain monsters.
If it doesn't help... oh well, that's bad then.
I'm saying this because there were some parts where I just kept dying. Because I encountered that monsters for the first time. I told the rest of the party that I didn't know how to fight them, but no one advised me. x_x
Actually, fighting in party should be about sharing strategies and "tips & tricks", but I kinda miss this in SK.
Guess I will have to MAKE people talk to each other more while doing Clockwork runs together :D
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 18:12
#15
I have this problem in t3, in
I have this problem in t3, in FSC where I have to reteach people tactic with random people lol...
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 18:44
#16
One time I did a jelly run
One time I did a jelly run with a random group, and there was this person who probably bought a starter pack or something (he was burning CE ressing).
The terrible thing happened and as I was waiting for someone to health-res me, he used energy to remote-revive me.
He remote-revived pretty much everyone until the king. And of course, the random group wiped, and he left.
Y U DO THAT? I AM NOT REVIVING MYSELF IN A JELLY RUN FOR 40 CE D:
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 18:55
#17
Eh, I'm neutral. I don't
Eh, I'm neutral. I don't generally have problems with playing with anyone. I do tend to hang in tier 2 more than tier 3 so perhaps thats more of the reason. I also tend to look for opportunistic chances to join depths in whatever second stratum of any tier by checking friends/guildmates...so its hard to say whether I truly party with randoms or not (the people I join I don't know who they're partying with, but if they're a friend, they're probably alright anyway).
Yeah, those are pretty much my thoughts.