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[Price Check] Avenger CTR VH

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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:01
meteorcase
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So I logged on today hoping I could alchemize an Avenger with UV: ASI high or VH. Instead the Spiral Gods blessed me with another great UV: Charge Time Reduction Very High, and now I am stuck wondering how much it would go for. I very much appreciate your time and consideration responding to this post. Thank you, and have a nice day.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:06
#1
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
Like 100k CE+. That thing is

Like 100k CE+. That thing is frigging RARE.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:09
#2
Eeks's picture
Eeks
probably around 100-180k ce

probably around 100-180k ce

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:13
#3
tehc0w
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priceless.

priceless.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:13
#4
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Bigfootm
Yeah. Congrats.

Yeah. Congrats.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:26
#5
flipnotic
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Keep in mind, people who cant

Keep in mind, people who cant afford this crap tend to OVER value things in an attempt to keep others from purchasing it. It just comes down to who is willing to dish out serious money, and how much. Delcore is no longer here, and only one resembling him is Laverna. True it's rare and blah blah, but with unbind npc and UV gambler npc, prices will be changing. Until the fine details are shown, most people probably wont put a serious offer on it yet since they have the hopes of prices going down due to availability of the items increasing due to the 2 changes mentioned.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 00:09
#6
Laverna
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How can a single virtual item

How can a single virtual item be worth 225$? Uh nevermind... Since the gremlin merchants are here any minute, people will roll more ctr vh UV's on their avengers. You got definately lucky here, but don't expect it to be unique. Realistically it's value is similiar to a brandish asi vh before the announcement of the update: 35kce.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 00:17
#7
aeolianmode
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The previous DA CTR VH sold

The previous DA CTR VH sold for 90k ce. That was in April, about 2 weeks after the official launch of the game. Even though it is an Avenger and not a DA, the value should not decrease because of that. However UV rolling is coming out and the value should drop a bit because of it next week.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 00:43
#8
tomu
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Ever hear of Black Lotus?

@Laverna: That thing is worth way more than the favorite UV on a brandish. A brandish costs 50 ME to craft, and if it is not the UV VH of choice, results in a 2k+ auction depending on whatever it was.

An avenger costs 400 energy + 2500 crowns + quite a bit of time and energy dedicated to farm JK tokens just for an equal chance at the same mods. So whatever the supply of the most expensive brandish is looking like, this thing is going to be many many many times more scarce just based on the fact that tons of players are not churning out tons of alts worth of avengers per day.

I understand that scarcity does not necessarily correspond 1:1 with trade value, but it definitely is a factor - and not only that, the avenger line is basically a must have on nearly everyone's wish list except for a few minorities as compared with any brandish line, which indicates greater demand than a brandish as well.

Now in terms of actual utility provided by such a UV or any UV in general, yeah, you can basically play through the game with the same relative difficulty whether you have a 5 star setup with full max UVs or no UVs at all, they really do not make the player. That said, current UVs trade for what they do today because people want them and are willing and able to pay said prices. Now, people who are saying that no one will pay in the 180k CE price range or higher may be correct due to the fact that so few, if any, players are even able to afford such a hefty price and if they even exist, may simply not be willing.

That said, just imagine how much people will want this thing. It's unarguably the single most desired UV item in the entire game that is craftable today. And sure, the UV reroll feature might factor into the UV market in general, but generating these will undoubtedly cost players more than negative 2k+ crowns (negative indicating a crown gain) plus the AH value of a few worthless materials. So it will continue to be the most rare and most sought after UV item in the game, compared to all others (assuming more do not come out). It is possible that because of future balance changes or new item releases that, one day, other item lines may surpass the Avenger's number one spot in market demand, it is certainly not the case for today or as far as announcements regarding the near future are concerned.

I also see that people sometimes equate CE with real life money, but just as we were discussing that an item is worth what someone would actually pay, in terms of crowns, the same could be said of "value" involving real life money. I have not heard of any individual or group of players who would actually pay a combined total $225 to another player or players for crystal energy instead of going through OOO, unless there is a crystal energy black market that operates against TOS, in which case it would be intentional that I have not heard of it.

So instead of equating CE with real life money, I equate it with other opportunities that I could potentially take advantage of. Perhaps some AH investment trickery to compound the value of your assets many times over in a short time and ultimately a set of one or more inferior UV items.

In other words, you should really hold onto that item, since it has no equal, and is basically priceless. Think of it this way, any transaction performed with that would be a trade down, and why would you want to do something like that?

Of course, statements like "most rare", "most sought after" are quite controversial, and ultimately cannot be proven, so take them with a grain of salt. Just my two cents.

P.S.: When I say trade down, think of trading cards, imagine you have a Michael Jordan rookie card, or a Black Lotus from Magic the Gathering, or if you have not heard of either of those, some valuable card. Trading down is basically trading it away for one or more other trading cards that are individually worth less that yours, and is typically considered to be a noobie mistake (outside of special circumstances not described here), unless the goal is to ultimately convert it into real life money and "cash out the investment" with maximum efficiency, which cannot be the case here due to OOO TOS.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 00:52
#9
otoutobun
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screenshot or it didnt happen

screenshot or it didnt happen

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 02:14
#10
Sick
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@aeolianmode

No it wasn't a VH, instead it was only a medium. http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/3169

Delcore pretty much got trolled into paying that 90k. I've spoken to Crescendo, he had no intention of ever paying that much. That probably didn't matter to Delly then, he wanted people to know never to try to outbid him.

OT: A beast of a craft. You are definitely blessed. A price check may be out of the question since there hasn't been one sold here on the forums yet.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 02:44
#11
darkblues
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are you selling that item?

are you selling that item?

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 02:47
#12
meteorcase
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@otoutobun

Here is proof: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/121/screenshot20110720at239.png/

@tomu

Thank you for that lovely response. I have considered keeping it for the time being.

Sincerly,
Meteorcase

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 03:33
#13
lulzking
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hopefully OOO doesnt make

hopefully OOO doesnt make unbinding token invalid , or this could be a problem lawl

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 04:30
#14
Pelikins
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Congrats on this!

Congrats on this!

Realistically, I can see this going for 100k ce. There are plenty of serious merchants out there who have that kind of money and would spend it to get there hands on item of this quality.

Any other sword and I'd say no way but the DA is the lord of the sword.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 06:26
#15
Riceofdeath
Id pay 80k CE for it. Maybe

Id pay 80k CE for it. Maybe more :P

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 06:34
#16
Splinter's picture
Splinter
It'll go for a ton, lucky,

It'll go for a ton, lucky, LUCKY you.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 06:43
#17
SnNoodlez
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Well I'd recommend u to sell

Well I'd recommend u to sell it ASAP after unbinding patch, 80% of the game will be rolling UV's on DA. As of right now the value of it is off the chart, can't say the same about it in 2 weeks though.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 06:58
#18
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
Personally, I'd keep it fir

Personally, I'd keep it fir myself. That is a AMAZING sword for Vanaduke.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 09:07
#19
Riceofdeath
I agree with SN. It only

I agree with SN. It only takes 3-4 vh ctr DA's to make the price drop. Look at calibur for example. At one time ppl were having bid wars up to 60k ce for it
The other day someone barely managed to get 31k ce for it.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 09:12
#20
Rommil's picture
Rommil
wow

You sir, have won the lottery. two ways to look at it.
#1 HOOORAY. I won the lottery. i have the ultimate sword ont the gamez!
#2 oh great. of all the rotten luck. i won the "lottery" but on a stupid video game, and not in real life. my life sucks.

but really such an awesome weapon. power it up and keep it, i say.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 09:34
#21
Lepreal
Tip. Dont even sell it. Keep

Tip.

Dont even sell it. Keep it for yourself. Crafted 50 DAs now and counting. :| Only have a IAS med on it. Congrats bud! :) Keep it. :)

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 10:28
#22
Mafiaso's picture
Mafiaso
Lol at lepreal, real

Lol at lepreal, real

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