Spiral Knights - This patch was awesome and did exactly what nick wants from the game.

This patch was awesome and did exactly what nick wants from the game.

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Wed, 07/20/2011 - 17:57

Velcro

Firstly it seems to be dropping the price of CE so that tier 2 and tier 1 players can continue to venture into the Clockworks even after their mist runs dry.

Secondly it introduced 2- and 3-UV equipment. If you all recall, there was a post that nick made awhile back where he said that he wanted there to be very rare equipment or something to that regard. Now lets be realistic here. The chances of getting 2- and 3-UV equipment is significantly lower than that of 1-UV equipment. Nearly 400k crowns to have a chance at getting 3 good UVs, which will probably not be so good, means you cannot buy your way into a 'god'-tier 3-UV weapon.

This is what nick wanted isn't it? Equipment you cannot buy your way into. Think of say, a DA with vhigh ASI, vhigh CTR, and vhigh dmg vs Undead. This item has such a low chance of occurring that I would bet a large sum of money that it will never ever exist, regardless of how long the game goes on. And if it did, it would be an amazing, treasured item that would conceivably cost well past $200. And that's what it should be.

I see people complaining about how end-game gear that used to be, 1-UV maximum or vhigh equipment, is being outshadowed by 2- or 3- UV equipment because they can be ridiculously strong. But hey, if the price of a 1-UV maximum or vhigh equipment drops I'll be dang happy about it. And just so you don't think that my current equipment isn't depreciated I have a Shadow max Skolver Coat, Elemental max Divine Veil, CTR high Glacius. But hey, I won't be selling those ever, well maybe the Glacius if I eventually get two vhigh CTR Brandishes, so I don't care what their value is.

The point is. The ideal 2- and 3- UV equipment that everyone seems to want to gamble on getting are going to be very VERY rare. That's what nick wants, equipment that is so rare and expensive to get that it won't be bought and traded like the 1-UV equipment from before.

These will be trophies for whatever player has them. And glorious things to find on anyone you're partying with. Not something you see on everyone or that you can realistically expect to find or buy yourself.

This game fixed the energy 'crisis' everyone was complaining about. It introduced items that not everyone can have. It introduced a good way to get those capped UVs that you want (ie. with the 15k crown 1-UV tickets which are the only tickets I'll be buying for a long while)

The 2- and 3-UV tickets are a gamble, and if you hit the jackpot (Literally here, the odds of getting that 'ideal' 3-UV equipment with your ticket are akin to that of a lottery) then you get yourself a mighty fine piece of equipment that NO ONE else will have most likely.

Thanks OOO. I love you for all your hard work.

-Velcro

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:38

Captain-Teemo

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:44

Akher

Your are right.

Yeah.. this seems like the actual idea.

Another idea I have is that now people will be goilng for the 3-UVs equipment.. and they will drop the value of their 1-UV item.
(Me, I won't even touch the ones already have the UV I want, is to risky)
Meaning that in a way more people will be going to keep their Crowns to buy UVs than buying CE.

Expect in the future to see people with Vog of Cub coat with shadow protectin: high, Normal Defense: max, and sone other desired thing.
However gets to have this will work as an inspiration for people to get more UVs tickets. With this, a new idea (more ambitious) for playing will be happening.

(Also, thanks for all the new things for the players... more new things mean more reasons for playing)
Ambition. I just hope I don't fall in it.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:46

Steinstoki

Somewhat agreed. 15k for a

Somewhat agreed.

15k for a U.V. is nice, if I have another sealed sword, I would rather repeatedly punch'd it and see if it would turn to a CTR V. High or High. If what the bazaar sale is true, people paying 70k CE for it, then that means, according to current C.E. rate ( 3.5M ), I rather take my chances 233 times, it's not like I can't try to sell if it get other very high bonus instead. I believe prices will drop, the except if it's 2/3 u.v. eq, which is good for people like me.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:49

Sunless

according to current C.E.

according to current C.E. rate ( 3.5M)

Has it dropped to 3500 per 100 already or am I misunderstanding?

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:50

LordDarkness

Legacy Username

Great work, Nick

This update is very beneficial for the poor and very harmful to the rich, just the way I like it. The expensive price of crowns to get UV will get lots of crown sink, which increases the value of crowns and thus it cost less crowns to buy energy. The even more ridiculous expensive price of CE to unbound equips will turn most people away from using that service and thus reduce the CE sink. And the 3 UV idea will devalue those old equips and make it not worth the investment to unbound it. I guess whenever the price gets too high, we can always count on Nick. And that's why the game really deserves the title of free to play game.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:52

Steinstoki

@ Replicant I meant

@ Replicant

I meant 3.5Millions , not sure if it was worded accurately. CE price when I was writing that post was 100ce : 5000 crown.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:54

Sunless

I meant 3.5Millions , not

I meant 3.5Millions , not sure if it was worded accurately.

I see. My mistake.

CE price when I was writing that post was 100ce : 5000 crown.

Not bad, not bad.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 18:57

Algol-Sixty

Uh, it is *WAY* too early to

Uh, it is *WAY* too early to talk about the effect of this update on the cr<->CE exchange rate. If the UV shop turns out to be used by only a very percentage of players to sink a very small percentage of crowns, it could easily end up having almost no effect at all. The unbind shop sinks energy, so it could increase the demand for CE and push the exchange rate up. But, again, the unbind should could end up being used too little to make any real impact.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:01

Steinstoki

I think haze bomb price will

I think haze bomb price will be stable, the reason being only CTR U.V. is desirable, comparatively.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 19:35

#10

Gwenyvier

It was always known that the

It was always known that the unbind shop would be meant as a service for high rollers. The fact that people were expecting it to be cheap shows incredible naivety. They bound the high end items to stop the trading of them, of course the unbind of them is going to be steep. No, its not too much, because you know for a fact people WILL pay it and others WILL buy the items including the extra 4k CE for the person to unbind it.

The UV shop is reasonable. 1 guaranteed UV for 15k is more then acceptable. If your feeling lucky you can try for 2 and 3. Most people will probably roll for 1 though. Again, the triple UV roll is meant for high rollers, which there is actually nothing wrong with. If you have the funds to throw around then fine, by all means go for it. I'll wish you good luck that you get something good. Why? Because in the long run gear is still going to be based on single UVs. If for no other reason then getting multiple good, high UVs will cost a fortune.

Yes, somebody MAY get the god-like Very High CTR, ASI, and Undead DA that Velcro mentioned... and it will never see the market because NOBODY is going to want to sell it, and I actually have my doubts as to anybody having enough CE to be able to actually buy it (what would it cost? 200k CE? 500k CE? or would it start going the ToS breaking route and go via paypal payment?).

Overall the patch was decent, the UV shop is very nice, honestly don't care about the unbind shop, and the possibility of crafting up to 3 UVs and the item preview are both nice.

~Gwen

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 22:04

#11

Onyxia

I finally see a very good patch,I mean there was some lame patches before,like the cr nerfs
but this patch is surprisingly good
whoever came up with this idea should get a pay raise as he's actually using his brain to make SK a better game.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 05:11

#12

Koffin-Kat

I don't see the reason why so many people are complaining about the new update already.
There's nothing wrong with the prices for unbind or for the UVs. It'll make crowns valuable and possibly help the game economy.

The only 'issue' with this is that material now MIGHT be even more worthless that before, so it'd be good if they could come up with a solution to this. Maybe one of the future updates... :)

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 10:22

#13

Cadeau

@Noctuelle

Tthe people that are complaining are those who spent irrational amounts on their gear and now find that their once "rare" items have become commodity ones. A good lesson to learn, virtual economies can drastically change over night, or in this case after a patch. I'm loving this patch as well, it means most of us will be able to afford UVs. Let the epeeners pay ludicrous sums for the triple UV gear and let people who actually play the game enjoy the game with some modest enhancements.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 10:31

#14

Shrinkshootr

cheers

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This patch was awesome and did exactly what nick wants from the game.