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Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:28
Wadushodu
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I've been hearing a lot of people crying because they cannot unlearn recipes they wish to. I don't know if there's another post suggesting the game moderators to make this idea. I completely support with this change and many people who wished this as an added option.

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:36
#1
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
WAT DA! i just made the same

WAT DA! i just made the same thread as you! wow. i didnt c yours cuz i was busy making mine

Sat, 07/23/2011 - 19:40
#2
Wadushodu
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Hehe sorry, I was just

Hehe sorry, I was just talking to a GM and he redirected me here.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:33
#3
bushwhacker
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I'm not sure I understand...

I'm not sure I understand... why would you want to unlearn recipes?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 06:48
#4
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Negazero
Somewhat confusing...

...cuz you learn the receipe,make it,then unlearn it.How is that possible?The idea would be fine,its just that...how can you wipe off every trace of something you already know?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:55
#5
Vermilicious
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Cause you regret buying a

Cause you regret buying a recipe once and learning it? 8|
It doesn't really make any sense - would you go to a doctor to erase your memory of how to bake a strawberry cake?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:46
#6
bushwhacker
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... No, I still don't really

... No, I still don't really follow, is this so we get a refund or something? If we buy a weapon and it turns out to be meh, then we have to live with it, right?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 15:48
#7
Blackraven6
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realy stypid suggestion

realy stypid suggestion

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 18:45
#8
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
its not a stupid suggestion.

its not a stupid suggestion. your stupid blackraven6. your recipe list is basically a recipe "book" kinda like cooking recipe books. when you learn something, you put the recipe in the book. when you trash it, or delete it, it is erased from your recipe "book" or the page is ripped out. kinda like that i guess.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 20:22
#9
bushwhacker
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I don't really see how this

I don't really see how this would be okay though, if a player made an item, removed the recipe and then gave it to their friends no one would ever buy recipes.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 20:24
#10
wenkuang77
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What I think it should be

What I think it should be like is the ability to unlearn recipes you haven't used yet. Just the ones you haven't used, nothing else.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:16
#11
Wadushodu
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Just a clarification

Reading all these comments and people adding these ideas made me happy how people are actually supporting it in this thread. However, I need to do a clarification: When I said unlearning things, I did not mean the recipe go directly to your Arsenal after you've made something so you can resell it. No. I mean as it will be gone from your recipe list. If you guys want to make it appear back to your inventory as someone suggested, make it available to do so if you have not craft once with that recipe. Thanks for all the support!

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:21
#12
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
I fully support your ideas

I fully support your ideas Wasushodu, and the idea that i will nly appear in your arsenal if u havent crafted with it yet is a good idea. Some people on my thread though arent as supportive as the ones here...*grumble grumble* oh well. we both have the same ideas so it doesnt matter. if you wanna be friends with me in the game, my IGN is Shadownox.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:21
#13
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
To unlearn for the cost of

To unlearn for the cost of the recipe? Sure. Girders or under the cost? Never

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:23
#14
Wadushodu
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Thanks Shadownox

I am happy that you're supportive to my idea...I know there are some people that don't completely accept my idea and yet decide to ruin the thread for me. :(

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:27
#15
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
wats your IGN?

wats your IGN?

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:42
#16
Wadushodu
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A response to everyone who disagree with this idea:

You're free to express your ideas in this thread, as soon you keep it clean. Please do not come here to just troll here and make this look like a really bad idea cause it isn't, and I'm pretty sure you want a clean, organized arsenal when looking into your recipe tab. Sure, you can get hacked and your recipes can be cleaned away, but that's why you can use strong passwords instead of weak ones.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:39
#17
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
no, IGN means In Game Name.

no, IGN means In Game Name. basically your characters name when u are playing.

Sun, 07/24/2011 - 23:43
#18
Wadushodu
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Hehe, had to replace the other comment...Anyway

My name in the game is the same as you see here: Wadushodu. :)

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 17:49
#19
bushwhacker
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I'm really not trying to ruin

I'm really not trying to ruin the thread, I swear! I'm just trying to understand what the purpose would be.

Organization, maybe?

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 18:10
#20
Koffin-Kat's picture
Koffin-Kat
For some reason...

...I don't think this is a good idea.
What bushwhacker said before - if there were the possibility to unlearn recipes, no one would buy recipes from Vendors and they (recipes) would became 'worthless', just like materials.

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 18:31
#21
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Soulstaker
Bad idea

Sorry if you think I'm trolling but I think it's a bad idea.recipes are for a reason they are to be learned and so you won't give them to ur friends so they can craft some.I bet recipes then will be useless and ruin the spiral knight virtual economy incising AH and npc shops.
Sent from ipad

Mon, 07/25/2011 - 21:43
#22
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
actually, it could be

actually, it could be possible that when you get rid of, it just dissapears if you have already crafted with it. im okay with that. and it will only apear in your arsenal if you have not crafted with it yet. isint this a good idea?

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 11:08
#23
bushwhacker
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@Shadownox: "actually, it

@Shadownox: "actually, it could be possible that when you get rid of, it just dissapears if you have already crafted with it. im okay with that. and it will only apear in your arsenal if you have not crafted with it yet. isint this a good idea?"

I can kind of understand removing it if you haven't crafted with it yet, like having second thoughts or if you accidentally learned it in the first place.

But what's the purpose of just getting rid of it...?

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 12:19
#24
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
if you dont want it. or if

if you dont want it. or if you think it messes up your list. some people like me are orgaized and like to keep things spic-and-span. plus, i dont like looking at nooby stuff in my recipe list:P Besides, this will nly be an option. if you dont want to get rid of any recipes, great. if you do want to get rid of some recipes, great. so ifyou dont want to, you dont have to. Simple as that.

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 14:29
#25
OverDingle
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there's... no point at all to

there's... no point at all to being able to forget a recipe.

if you added the possibility of getting the money back for it, then it'd break the economy. If you added the possibility of getting the recipe back in your inventory, then nobody would have to buy recipes at terminals anymore because there'd suddenly be so many on the market, and again kill the economy.

If you wanted to forget the recipe for the sake of not having it anymore and that's it, how pointless can you get? Suppose the day comes when they add 6* recipes, and suddenly the recipe you forgot is in a line for the new best item in the game? Would you then complain they added a function that deprived you of money because you had to buy the recipe again?

This isn't a feature the game needs.

Tue, 07/26/2011 - 17:06
#26
bushwhacker
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I kind of agree with

I kind of agree with OverDingle, maybe if the game had no other problems, but ultimately there's just so little I can see that this would contribute.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 02:44
#27
Twiddle's picture
Twiddle
If you are a roleplayer then

If you are a roleplayer then there might be some reason to unlearn recipes. You might consider unlearing a recipe if you want a clean recipe list (with only recipes you'd use and none you wouldn't want to use.) Or you might want to unlearn a recipe if you are a bit OCD and learned the wrong recipe.

Unlearning recipes would be nice. I back this suggestion. But it's kind of like having spirals blink when the graphics are at high quality. It's nice, but not necessary.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 08:03
#28
Ghret's picture
Ghret
To re-iterate

This would only be an option for people who want to rid themselves of some extremely horrible recipe purchases (Punch gun anyone?) and there would be nothing that the person would recieve. As Zanoni has said quite clearly, this would be a nice thing to have, but not necessary.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 18:19
#29
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
Bad idea

The idea will ruin SK virtual economy.

Wed, 07/27/2011 - 19:49
#30
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
how in the world will this

how in the world will this ruin the economy?! people keep saying this but i keep saying that it will not appear in your back in your arsenal, but it will just dissappear! It wll be an option of course for thse of us who like to keep an organized recipe list and who want to get rid of horrible recipes that they have. You will not get your money back, period.

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 08:36
#31
mbcscp
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.

should be able to unlearn / delete or hide the recipes you dont want...
i have star 1/2 recipes i wouldnt mind hiding :(

of course if you delete / unlearn a recipe its gone with no financial benefit

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:03
#32
IronBrofist
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ahh i get it

so leme get this straight u wanna get a recipie learn it make it un learn it and sell it nooooo thats just cheep

Fri, 07/29/2011 - 12:29
#33
Ghret's picture
Ghret
For the love of...

Look! He doesn't want people to be able to get the recipe back when they unlearn it, he wants the recipe to be permately deleted. Why? Because some people make completely noobish mistakes (Punch Gun, anyone?) when buying recipes which they shall never use and just takes up spase and provides no way yo upgrade them. These type of newbie recipes, which we initially think are really great, turn out later to be completely useless. And could I remind everyone that this is an OPTION for people to take. Meaning you are not forced to delete recipes, you can hoard every single recipe you've got, but don't force other people to follow you in this way. And if you are completely scared about people hacking your account and deleting your recipes, then just make a password for when you want to delte the recipe (completely different form your log-in password) that can't be changed. And what if you forget the password? a) tough luck, right it down next time; b) call support and have them reset it.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 22:45
#34
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
finally, someone with common SENSE!

thanks eterinity. finally, someone who gets my idea!

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 03:17
#35
Psychorazer
HEY!

I got that! WHY can't people just READ and just understand what passes over their EYEBALLS!? There is no selling involved! Just to keep a clean recipe menu! Thank you eternity for beating me to it!

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 06:39
#36
Negazero's picture
Negazero
Im still REALLY confused on this.

If you spent your money on it,learned it,and found out it was cap,LIVE WITH IT!What's so bad about having a receipe in your receipes that you dont wanna use?I mean,you could make it for people and sell it.So actually,it is awesome that we cant do that.-2 =P

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 10:22
#37
Ghret's picture
Ghret
And if we don't want to craft

And if we don't want to craft those weapons for other players? Are you forcing us to follow what you say is correct? Look, this thing is a choice which people can choose to have, which allows people to have a choice; unlike your idea to force people who have made horrible newbie purchases (once again, Punch Gun) to sell them to other newbie players at an inflated cost to recover the cost of having bought the recipe in the first place. And one last thing, if you found out that recipe was horrible, and unsuitable for anything other than the first few depths; what makes you think that anyone else would like it? Well, other than the newbies who have no idea how to play this game, and are just looking for guidance.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:55
#38
Psychorazer
Disagreement? ^_-

Like eternity said, this is entirely choice based. The option will be there. Note: OPTION. No-one is forcing anyone to remove anything from their inventories. This isn't a "this expires in 3 days if you don't do something with it', you can remove it or leave it there. It's like having the language filter, you can NOT use it! It's entirely up to the player to use it! If they want to keep only the stuff they think they'll need, fine. If they want to keep EVERYTHING they get, also fine. BOTH options are available dammit! Why can't some people get that!?!?

And just as a note, What are bumps? I still don't know if it's positive or negative.

Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:26
#39
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
bump

bump

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 19:14
#40
Shadownox's picture
Shadownox
dang this thread is going

dang this thread is going down. must revive it!

Tue, 08/02/2011 - 22:06
#41
Psychorazer
Lawl

That's what I tried with the Advanced and Tempered look the same and Pets forums. It didn't work. T-T

Shadow, can you answer my question? Btw it's Psy In game.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 07:56
#42
insanephoton
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suggestion

After reading the arguments, I'm still not sure I see the point of it but... if you only want this to make a 'tidy' recipe list and aren't trying to profit from it, here's my suggestion:

Why not include it as another service from Punch and Vise like unbinding equipment only you don't get your recipe back. You'd pay some crowns or CE then get hit on the head with a wrench wand or thwack hammer and the recipe would be lost.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 08:46
#43
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
XD I love your idea insane.

XD I love your idea insane.

Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:08
#44
Ghret's picture
Ghret
That actually makes sense.

That actually makes sense. Why didn't we think of that! It could also follow the method of increasing stars = increasing cost. And since this is an optional service, this solves the problem of people being 'forced' to choose whether to keep their newbie recipes or not.

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