The title pretty much says the issue. Until recently, when I used the Sentenza I would get the damage bonuses to gremlins and beasts, but that seems to have gone away now. Currently I only get the small grey damage numbers on either of them, instead of the large yellow damage numbers I used to.
I'm not sure exactly when this change took place, but I'm guessing it was during a recent update.
Anyone have any information about this? As it stands, this bug has turned what was already a marginally useful gun into one not worth much at all.
Sentenza not doing any bonus damage to gremlins or beasts
Tue, 07/26/2011 - 08:16
Tue, 07/26/2011 - 10:51
#2
Would the numbers themselves
Would the numbers themselves be correct, but the indicator wrong? At the moment I'm doing about 20 to 30 DPS with the Sentenza on T2 gremlins, which is about what it also shows against constructs. If the numbers can be believed, then it doesn't seem to be doing any extra damage.
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 01:29
#3
Antigua
Thats cause of this:
normal shot does for ex. 100 damage. now it's piercing and shadow. the malus you get is higher than the bonus, so its like +50% (150) -50% (75).
Thats why you deal less against gremlins
for beasts following -> 100 damage / 2 = 50. 50 damage is shadow, so normal against beasts, 50 damage is pierce so +50% lets say for ex. (75). so you deal 125, while a pierce only weapon would deal 150.
Sentenzia and Argent Piecemaker are bad choices, don't use them. They suck :P
They never will reach high bonus damage.
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 02:49
#4
The numbers should be the
The numbers should be the right ones, just not indicated correctly.
@Xyonon
That's a lot of speculation. I also feel like you've never used either gun.
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 03:33
#5
Silversix Damage Calculation
Well I'm a gunner and I tested Silversix AND Blackhawk long enough to know how they work and how weak they are. So, ok, I'm gonna give you the real Numbers right here:
Silversix in Stratum 6:
Silversix is Elementar and Piercing
Silversix deals versus Slimes and Gremlins 45 Damage (Resist to Pierce or Elementar, other Stat is Neutral [- =]) -0.5
Silversix deals versus Beasts and Construct 60 Damage (Resist to Elementar or Pierce, other Stat is Effective [- +]) ±0
Silversix deals versus Fiends and Undead 80 Damage (Weak to Pierce or Elementar, other Stat is Neutral [+ =]) +0.5
Lets take a look at the Strike Needle in Stratum 5:
Strike Needle is Piercing Only (!)
Strike Needle deals versus Slimes and Construct 20 (x6) Damage (Resist to Pierce [-]) -1
Strike Needle deals versus Gremlins and Undead 60 (x6) Damage (Neutral to Pierce [=]) ±0
Strike Needle deals versus Beasts and Fiends 90 (x6) Damage (Weak to Pierce [+]) +1
The Silversix deals 45-80 cause of -0.5 up to +0.5, the Needle deals more radical differenced damage, from 20 to 90 cause of the 1 Type System, where the Bonus is -1 to +1.
You see, normal damage 60 is increased by 50% to 90 if effective but is decreased by more than 60 at ineffective. At Silversix only 1 Part of Damage Type is affected wich cuts the malus or bonus at half.
And because a Gunner has an Gun for every Enemy Type, the Antigua Series are Guns for Swordmen. Piecemaker is the best Weapon for Sword or Bomberman.
mfg Abathur (ingame)
Wed, 07/27/2011 - 14:06
#6
Given the range and mobility
Given the range and mobility bonus over the Strike Needle I think it only makes sense that it would do less damage. Also: malice. Malus are apple trees. :P
Thu, 07/28/2011 - 01:28
#7
MaLuS aRe ApPlE tReEs :D
Oh o.o I guess my english is badder than I actually though XD how ever, I hope my giant calculation helped ^^
Sometimes the damage indicators bug out and show the incorrect format. You are probably still doing the same amount of damage but it is just showing the grey numbers.