On the wiki on the Tokens page, if you look at the bosses it says they're drops are 1-4 of a token and then after unconfirmed 5. That is Jelly King is an exception. I thought you get tokens depending on how many stages you did prior to the boss, like if you did all of their temple levels or whatever. So how would you get 5 tokens?
5 Jelly Tokens?
Oh, so 5 tokens are still technically unconfirmed?
As far as I know it is still unconfirmed that 5 are possible.
Delfim changed the wiki from "1-4 Jelly Gems (unconfirmed 5)" to simply "1-5 Jelly Gem" on July 8th, but didn't leave any comment or discussion indicating that he got 5 jelly gems or someone else was able to confirm it.
I haven't gotten 5 tokens in any boss since the update that changed the way tokens are collected.
I can confirm that I have gotten 4 before.
So the fourth token is a random occurrence? I was hoping to find out if there's any way to get that fourth token consistently. :D
I had just gotten 4 Bark Modules this morning. Anyway I had my own question about this if someone only plays for 2 stages do they always get 2 tokens or does the chance of getting 4 tokens become a chance of getting 3?
I got 4 Bark Module, 4 Jelly Token and 4 Frumious Fangs before (I didn't meet the requirement for FSC yet). I think it has something to do with not dying, twice I didn't die in IMF, twice I got 4 Bark Module.
join at depth 16= 1 token, (rarely 2)
join at depth 14~15= 2 token (rarely 3)
join at depth 10~13=3 tokens(no chance of 4)
join at depth 8~9=high chance of 4 tokens(rarely 3)
join at depth 0 or 1=high chance of 5 (low chance of 4)
Interesting hypothesis, but, alas, no dice.
Just finished a continuous run from 0 to 18, ending with IMF. Got 3 Bark Modules as a result.
@EliteChamp I rarely die doing boss runs (the fight itself or the depths prior). Never died from Snarbolax, but have only received 4 tokens from it once. Could be contributing factor though.
We died at lot on the way to roarmulus and died at the fight itself: two health revives for me, two energy revives for my friend, we got 4 tokens (i was left with a 20 energy revive next, my friend with 40). We also took a long ass time to complete the tier, my friend kept afking.
@Culture: "Interesting hypothesis, but, alas, no dice.
Just finished a continuous run from 0 to 18, ending with IMF. Got 3 Bark Modules as a result."
Yeah, just did a solo run from 8-18 in IMF, didn't die and still only got 3.
I don't know what affects the number, but I'm pretty sure where you first join affects the amount given at least up to 3.
This is from the developers when they implemented the current version of the boss tokens:
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Bosses now drop a single, giant boss token that distributes boss tokens based on participation in the boss dungeon. The more levels you complete of each boss dungeon (in that run) the more boss tokens you have the chance to earn. The only way to guarantee a chance at the maximum number of tokens is to start a boss dungeon from the first level of that boss dungeon (from the terminal).
http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/8522
Emphasis added by myself. This is why we always thought it only starts counting depths from the terminal, not from some other depth.
hmmm..... Well thats the thing. IMF.
Ive only been testing in Jelly palace and according to the royal jelly, my statistics above are correct.
I don't know, I just finished the Jelly King from BEGINNING TO END, and I only got ONE TOKEN. I am very angry because I did alot of work, and I only got ONE TOKEN!
@Royal-Night: Don't think that is possible. Did you mistaken a primal spark token for jelly token?
1) That isn't possible
2) If it happened anyway, the right thing to do would be to immediately (without leaving the boss depth) file both a bug report and a support request
3) This is not the appropriate topic to discuss the problem in both because it's about something else and because it's ancient history
4) The topic isn't in the appropriate forum (Boss tokens discussion in the arsenal?) and neither is the Necropost. Boss tokens in general should be... in General. Bugs with boss tokens should be in Technical Issues.
If you did all the levels prior you will get at least 3. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get 4 instead, seems to be rather rare and completely random. If someone has gotten 5 since the token update they haven't taken a screenshot yet as it is still unconfirmed.
Prior to the big token update, if you beat the boss then you would randomly get 3-5 tokens. So someone could join at 16's elevator, go down and beat the boss to get 3-5 tokens. This was changed to discourage boss token farming.
Interestingly it was changed right after a guild advertised in The Bazaar that, for a small fee, would have you join the Vanaduke run at the elevator prior to the boss so that you can farm tokens. (Or for a smaller fee would carry you through the entire FSC.)