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Sat, 07/30/2011 - 17:39
Legendsmade's picture
Legendsmade

should i choose to be a pure bomber or swordsman?

if i become a bomber, i will use mad bomber suit, a shivermist, nitrome, ash of agini and something else. suggest one :D

if i become a swordsman, i will use vog, leviathian, divine avenger, gran faust, and maybe something else like glacius?

thanks

(sorry for the bad grammer, i'm doing this on my ipod.)

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 17:49
#1
yusyus
Legacy Username
depends what you like. i went

depends what you like. i went from swords to bomb in some crazy rush and am not happy with it.
sometimes it feels a bit slow and helpless in a group and telling yourself "you make their lives alot easier and they sure appreciate you" doesnt always help lol

but it really comes down to what you like, try both :)

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 18:08
#2
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Quasirandom
"should i choose to be a pure

"should i choose to be a pure bomber or swordsman?"

No. (You didn't realize that was a yes/no question, did you?) Carry a sword, a gun, and a bomb, and for your fourth weapon, another a second weapon of some category with a different damage type.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 19:53
#3
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Balduron
That's opinion, Quizzical.

That's opinion, Quizzical. I've never found using all 3 offered any particular extra advantage. Hell, most of the time I happily run 3 swords/1 bomb or 2 swords/2 bombs and don't find any trouble.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 20:20
#4
Elir
My Two Cents

I run Mad Bomber, and its great. In regards to what bombs you should use, I say run Nitronome (Normal damage), Dark Briar Barrage (Piercing damage), and if you want, one status bomb (meaning either Shiv, Ash, or Voltaic Tempest). As your fourth weapon, choose a sword to get you out of those tough situations. I personally rock Nitronome, Dark Briar, and a Glacius to get my status choice of freeze plus Elemental damage. Hope I helped. :)

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 20:23
#5
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Quasirandom
What do you do when faced

What do you do when faced with gun puppies in an area that you can't melee? Your bombs can't reach them either. Stand there and wait to die? Don't kill them? In most situations, a sword or bomb will work just fine. But occasionally you need a gun, and will be severely crippled if you don't have one.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 20:30
#6
Elir
Quizz, you can't hit a Puppy

Quizz, you can't hit a Puppy with a sword? I mean, it takes some timing with shielding and striking, but once you get it down, it's fairly simple. I just believe that guns are useful in two situations. When you have one bar of health and you're running away, or for gun puppies. And even then, the only good gun for those situations is the Pulsar line. But my bombs can take out mobs and keep my alive for a while and my sword takes care of Puppies.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 20:39
#7
culture
Legacy Username
Yeah

I agree with Quizzical, it only makes sense to take one of each, why else would they give us weapon slots and different choices?

But, for those that love their bombs and for pure bombers that need a way to deal with gun puppies, the RSS is adequate:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Bombing_Guide#Gun_Puppies

It has a better range than any gun (I think?), slightly more than a gun puppy's range. And it interrupts on every hit, reducing the need for dodging.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 20:56
#8
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Quasirandom
"Quizz, you can't hit a Puppy

"Quizz, you can't hit a Puppy with a sword?"

Often you can. But sometimes that isn't a serious option. For example, in Scarlet Fortress/Grim Gallery, there are a bunch of gun puppies situated such that the only place to melee them would involve standing in spikes that don't retract until the gun puppy is killed. The map I just did of Aurora Isles/The Low Gardens had nine gun puppies in an area, such that if you try to get in melee range of one, you'll get blasted by the rest of them. From gun range, you could reduce that to only two or three gun puppies that you needed to dodge at a time.

"But, for those that love their bombs and for pure bombers that need a way to deal with gun puppies, the RSS is adequate:"

Right. You're going to carry a four star bomb to effectively act as a gun with a very long recharge time. Maybe you can get by with that, but you're crippling yourself.

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There are also a lot of places where a level wraps around, so that if you have a gun, you can kill mobs from a position where they can't even attack you. With only swords and bombs, you'll have to wait for it to wrap around and fight them where they can hit you.

If you want to use mostly swords, or mostly guns, or mostly bombs, then go ahead. But you'll run into situations where that will make your life much harder than if you could easily switch to the type of weapon that is far more effective in a given situation.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 22:03
#9
Elir
To be fair, I haven't had any

To be fair, I haven't had any more usage of any gun besides for the Proto Gun, and you seem to use them quite often. I will take your word on what you say, though I've gotten by well with my two bombs and sword combo. Maybe in the near future I'll pick up a gun, but only when I decide to go for 4 equipment slots, and I'll form my complete opinion then. But as a side note, the RSS with Mad Bomber doesn't have a "very long recharge time", plus, it shoots in many directions so you can hit more than one enemy with it at a time.

Sat, 07/30/2011 - 22:42
#10
yusyus
Legacy Username
i use the RSS instead of DBB

i use the RSS instead of DBB (both piercing) and it works fine even as 4* bomb, so no crippling besides your ego which can't stand having not everything 5*. (reason: well placed it hits more than once and does great dmg)

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 07:12
#11
Legendsmade's picture
Legendsmade
i heard that bombing was good

i heard that bombing was good for soloing.
gunning would take long
swordsman, if it was a calibur it would work.

so IF i become a bomber i would probably use shivermist, nitrome, dark briar barrage, and leviathian.

Sun, 07/31/2011 - 08:34
#12
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Goldmaker
Imhero

Meh

Swordies: Insane damage and Medium AoE Damage
Bomber: Insane CC and AoE Damage and Sun shard bomb can snipe.
Guns: Meh.. looks like only a tactical wep? long range (?) low damage...

Yeh nitronome is more for soloing, DBB/Sun shard, Vortex, Shiver helps alot in parties, nitronome too but the knockback can annoying the swordies.

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