I think it's really annoying about the fact that the phantoms cannot be defeated even if you can damage them. I think that the phantom should die after we knock him into an orb 10 times, or something like that.
The Phantom in the Graveyard
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 02:04
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 03:33
#2
Thats not what i meant
I mean that if you make him go into an orb 10 times he dies and drops something
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 04:21
#3
Ya that is annoying...
Just have some way to permanently put him down? I find it kinda freaky that he could just come and one-up me up the ass while I'm not paying attention, while all I can do is lie dead on the ground and say: "No... but I killed you..." Then "Oh wait. He was already dead to start with."
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 04:56
#4
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what are u all complaining about its 1 enemy that is very easy to defeat and very easy to deal with all you have to do is knock em out when they popup heres how you do it easy
wait until you hear that the phantom has woken up and stop fighting run away from your current battle and wait for it
only shield when necessary and continue attacking it if you become curse do not worry all you need to do is keep it chasing you and youll be fine using weapons like the avenger FoV combuster glacius peace maker or any other elemental weapon just avoid gettin hit and youll be fine and if u have to fight it any more than twice then you shouldn't be in that stratum garve yards are one of the easiest areas
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 04:58
#5
That's why it's called a graveyard...
...and also why it's respected as one of the hardest levels in the game.
Before you go into it, you have a random chance of going into...
...The easiest depth and least rewarding; Treasure Vault.
...A regular level that could be between a waste-of-time Runaround to an Arena.
...The hardest and most rewarding in terms of heat and crowns; Graveyard.
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 05:30
#6
Also, I think that Jackhammer
Also, I think that Jackhammer was asking for the phantom to drop something when he's killed. Or something like that.
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 05:49
#7
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Obviously your a complete weakling if your complaining about these guys.They are almost harmless if you run away from them or slaughter them with Avenger.The only hard part about them is if you run away from them,and you get stuck or something,11 of them come to kill you.(I know because it has happened to me >.<)And what's bad about not getting items or crowns for killing it?If you hate not getting items from them,DONT KILL THEM!Its simple and you dont even think about it first.
This idea is from a weakling that cant fight...-_-
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 06:00
#8
I don't think that he's
I don't think that he's complaining about defeating these guys, I believe that it's more along the lines of you kill these guys, recieve nothing for your trouble, and then they come back for another go, constantly. Although thats my slant.
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 06:04
#9
I dont care
because he doesn't think about it first.(As stated...)
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 07:00
#10
stop
ima tell ya right now phantoms spawn for the # of players you will never see more than 4 of em running from them is fine stop handing out false information im sure no one wants to hear it
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 08:22
#11
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You really think there hard? WOW. I like em. Plus you can shield bump then attack. Shield bump, attack etc.
Mon, 08/01/2011 - 21:24
#12
True
True, They ARE easy to beat. I suppose them not being able to respawn is a bit much to ask as well. It's just annoying how they randomly respawn and can attack yo when you LEAST like or expect it, but get absolutely nothing. He's cool and all, but even a non moving torch stand can give you a silver crown when destroyed. Him? Nothing.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 00:18
#13
You guys don't get it
I'm not saying that its hard or anything but that its annoying because no matter how many times you knock him into an orb he comes back. So i'm stating that he should die after a while and actually drop something. SOmetimes in the levels i bash him up so badly but he still lives.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:01
#14
They are not supposed to die
They are not supposed to die otherwise the graveyard would not deserve it's title.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:25
#15
Yeah but...
If he keeps coming back, can't he at least drop something? I remember trying many ways to see if I can actually kill them, but he won't die. Neither will doing so get me anything. At least get him to drop a coin or heart or 2. Even grass gives you stuff when cut.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 01:28
#16
I think it'd be nice if you
I think it'd be nice if you could kill a phantom after you've defeated every single zombie in the graveyard.
Say, after they're all defeated (you've cleared the area) and if you trek back to where you entered, there'd be some place there to finally put the phantom to rest.
Maybe have them have a chance to drop a 3*, 4*, or 5* "phantom striker" based on your tier (T1 = 3*, T2 = 4*, T3 = 5*)
same chance as a love puppy dropping a trinket.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 03:57
#17
@Valkyrie182 If they are not
@Valkyrie182 If they are not dead why would they drop something?
@Boolet Phantoms aren't rare they appear in every graveyard. Also they are phantoms so why would they have in first place?
Just accept the fact that you are never gonna be able to kill phantom.
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 06:13
#18
Let me get this straight...
A Phantom can get turned into an orb after taking a certain amount of damage.Why should they die and give something?The orb is not gone,therefore the Phantom is not dead.If it was dead,you would see the same animation for most monsters when they die.Besides...why would you want to kill everything?The Phantoms are ghosts,therefore cannot be killed.(Probably because of Immortality)Just stop whining about it,dont attempt Graveyards,and get some good gear to completely pound the crap out of them...
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 21:30
#19
I see...
I see your point guys, but in the same line, grass and torch stands weren't living to begin with, but they give you stuff anyway. Anyway, fine I guess. No extra skin off my back. (Sarcasm not intended)
Either way, I see your point.
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 02:40
#20
Tuhui and Negazero
So you would be happy to just bash away at the phantom for no reason at all!
I believe that the phantom should at least drop something or die. But only after a lot of damage and times turned into an orb. I agree with Valkyrie about the fact that even grass is more rewarding.
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 03:04
#21
It's part of the graveyard.
It's part of the graveyard. It would become a boring lvl if you could kill the phantoms. So what if they don't drop anything, it's a part of that enemy.
You destroy grass and trees when you hit them.
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 05:56
#22
Okay, how about a compromise?
How about after a single ghost has been turned into an orb, say 5 times, with it growing stronger each 'revival', it then drops a rare mat? There you go, you've upped the difficulty of the Graveyard levels and still found a way to reward players who are willing to work for it.
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 08:02
#23
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
I agree with eternity's version of the idea
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 17:56
#24
Phantoms aren't rare though
Phantoms aren't rare though and there can be 4 to a graveyard. People would farm that place for the phantoms and that rare mat would become worthless.
Wed, 08/03/2011 - 20:37
#25
(Facepalm)
Ok. Eternity, thanks for your idea. I really like it because Phantoms are actually pushovers and I just don't like the idea of fighting them being so worthless.
Everyone else, every time you kill them, they get HARDER, so they EVENTUALLY die from, to add some degree of logic, using up all of their spiritual energy that they used to tie themselves to the living realm and so fade from existence.
So when they 'die' (They're already dead, so they can't really die again. XD) they drop a fairly rare mat. Not really rare, but maybe they could drop from a selection? So you get something, but only if you work a beating them, cuz even if they are easy, they don't respawn immediately. And even then it might not always be something uberly great.
So you get something within a range after defeating a resurrecting phantom who gets stronger with each re-birth until he burns himself out.
*pant**pant* Everyone happy NOW?
Erm, I'm pretty sure that if you can hit him hard enough he turns back into a static orb.