Spiral Knights - Love and hate list? (themes and mosnters)

Love and hate list? (themes and mosnters)

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 06:52

Tersakoff

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I've wanted to do this topic for a while.
Just post what mosnters and themes you dislike and like most.
Here's mine:

Monsters - like: jellies, chroma series, undeads (except the ghosts)
dislike: DEVILITES ASDFKDSJGSKDDFG (sorry but they're just terrible), alpha wolvers (when there are lots it's almost impossible to kill them all in a good time without getting hurt) lumbers (SO. MUCH DAMAGE. ;; ) and those robots with lasers. lol

Themes - like: jelly, poison, undead.
dislike: DEVILITES. SHOCK. ;; and fire too. and beast sometimes. the rest is ok actually

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:06

Marqui

Well, I think devilites are a

Well, I think devilites are a given HATE.
Jerks.

Likes: Jellies, Lichens, Zombies, Chromalisks, Thwack hammer / FT gremlins, Gun puppies, Lumbers,

Dislikes: Devilites (they're always throwing something. It's like non-stop aggro from a distance), Alpha wolvers (If your'e close when they start their attacks, your shield is gone. GONE I SAY), Silkwings, T3 menders (Menders in every tier except tier 3 aren't even important, but T3 menders? FFFFFFFF I can't even begin), Bombing gremlins (they're fast with the bombs and faster on their feet. the only time I can hit one is if I walk into a bomb myself), Cyclops constructs (the ones that shoot lasers that explode, It's too powerful IMO).

In all honesty though, you play long enough you begin to resent everything. EVERYTHING.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:19

Cobalt

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Love; Love Puppies, The only

Love;

Love Puppies, The only monster in the game that doesn't want to smash, burn, bite, tear, claw, shock, freeze, shoot you to pieces.

Hate;

Almost everything.

Greavers; Asdf, GO AWAY DAMN BAT THINGS. STOP FLYING AFTER ME.

Devilites; STOP THROWING CRAP AT ME ALL THE DAMN TIME. WHERE DO YOU GET THOSE OFFICE SUPPLIES ANYWAYS? D:

Kats; STOP CHASING ME YOU DEAD KITTY, YOUR DEAD, STAY DEAD.

Skellies; Eh, They are ok.

Lumbers; You can't hit m- FUUUUUUUUUUU.

Scuttlebots; STOP ATTACKING ME WHEN I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO YOU. D:

Retrods; ...Oh look a pretty line on the floor! Lets go tou- Bad idea.

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Shock; Bzzt bzzt, oh hell no. :c

Fire; Eh, run and burn.

Freeze; I'm stuck, time to die. D:

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It's pretty much what Marqui said, "In all honesty though, you play long enough you begin to resent everything. EVERYTHING."

Yup.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:19

Richy

Love graveyards.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 11:58

Soulstaker

What I hate?shock!!,!it's

What I hate?shock!!,!it's basically the boss of the game.I only hate monsters that can cause shock.OOO change shock!!it's way too cheap.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 12:09

Mrbobomb

Likes, Dislikes

Likes:
Love Puppy: Duh
All other Constructs: Difficult in a good way, only annoying when there are too many. I have a good weapon for them, and they are so satisfying to hit and kill.
All Jellies: Well, when you hate gremlins and you get a Jelly Danger room it's a sigh of releif. Plus they are also fun to beat.
Zombies: Easy, fun, and funny (Wipe their mouth after using Breath attack? LOL)

Dislikes:
Apha Wolvers: Mostly when they are in arenas. Annoying.
Kleptolisks: Steal My items, and it's always when I have three of them. Not that bad, but they always steal something at least once, and for that moment you hate them.
Devilites: No need to explain
Grim Totem: Not an enemy, but the only time I ever hate zombies is when they revive. I hate when these things are around.
Kats: Even if you can dodge them well enough and have a good weapon to fight them, they still take a while to kill because they run around all the time!
Gremlins: Well, I like them, but not it the game. They are kind of cool, but the brandish line sucks on them, and they run too much.

Staus: Well, you can't really like status effects, but basically the worst ones to me are: Shock and Freeze. If it leaves me open to hits in a game where you shouldn't take any, it sucks.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 12:10

dancinjen

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I LOVE graveyards. It has to

I LOVE graveyards. It has to be my favorite.

I like jellies too.. they're so cute. Impostocubes are my favorite things to find. :D

I hate devilites. i HATE them.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 12:14

Soulstaker

Slimes are very fun to kill.I

Slimes are very fun to kill.I like it when they connect and the slime drops a whole load of stuff and a core.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 13:43

Steinhauser

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I think it's a given that the

I think it's a given that the easy monsters are a "LOVE" and the difficult ones are a "HATE."

But the only things that I think are particularly unfair are freeze and shock. They really take control away from the player, which is a universally bad game design decision (well, in ALMOST all cases). Freeze in particular can one-shot you from full health if you're soloing and step on a freeze trap, with no way of breaking your freeze or preventing the next freeze. Shock is less annoying, but taking away control for a crucial second often leads to damage and more shock.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 15:40

Tersakoff

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No Stein, the FRUSTRATING

No Stein, the FRUSTRATING ones (like the whole pete damn fiend series but msotly devilites) are HATE. HATEHATEHATEKJHSKDGLHDFLGDF ok I'm overreacting but I just can't stand these little things.
Why? Non-stop hits. NON STOP. YOU CAN'T SNEAK A SINGLE HIT IN. And the bat thingies are simply un-dogeable. That's ok, you can shield, but guess what, STATUS EFFECTS FROM THOSE PENETRATE YOUR SHIELD.
So shock + fiend = OH HELL NO WAY I'M GOING THERE.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 15:48

#10

Nechrome

monsters: Love: zombies,

monsters:
Love: zombies, jellies, lichens, mecha knights, all beasts, develites, trojans, scuttlebots, phantoms, grievers, all the special monsters (love puppy, sloom, etc), gun puppies, bosses
hates: retrodes, gremlins, lumbers

themes:
love: all monster themes except gremlin and construct
hate: all status themes (except poison and freeze), especially shock

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 19:26

#11

JoshMK

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Love: Snipes Hate: Not loving

Love: Snipes
Hate: Not loving Snipes

I think Snipes are cool enough to be both a theme and a monster at the same time, so I hope my list makes sense.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 22:35

#12

TheChilliGod

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Love: Slimes. They're slow

Love:

Slimes. They're slow and vulnerable!
Zombies. slow, vulnerable, and also predictable!
Poison. Though this may be because I haven't yet died due to being unable to heal for poison, I like that it doesn't really put you in danger like other status effects.
Fire. Asides from it being totally cleansable, fire-themed maps have one huge benefit - fire puppies are so much easier to deal with.
Aurora Isles / Jigsaw Valley. Gorgeous scenery, shrubs with hearts, pleasing music, creative maps that aren't too frustrating, and lots of crowns/heat for the taking.
Battle Arenas Totally have the hang of them, and they're a good source for loot.

Hate:

Devilites. Bane of my existence.
Greavers. Haven't yet worked out how to deal with them my own way.
Lumbers. Slow, not so vulnerable, but absolute monsters in tight spaces, with deceptive reach.
Concrete Jungle and Dark City. Too compact, not nearly enough space for maneuvering.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 00:09

#13

Mrgreedy

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Love and Hate

Love - Most of the game.

Hate - Tier 3 status effects. Especially shock.
Fiends, Lumbers & Kats.
How often you find love pups.

Most of the other monsters I can kill rather easy. Though lumbers are easy to kill, there so mean. 2 hits on tier 3 and your dead or close to death.
I really hate the shock arenas with kats and fiends. Also find mass bombing in the third room of a tier 3 arena annoying. Or when all the gremlins go for just one person. Getting overwhelmed is no fun.

Other than that I love the game. :)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 01:05

#14

Rykerstrike

Dont know the actual names of

Dont know the actual names of the monsters :3

Like : Jelly King, All the jellies are easy

Hate : Army of puppies at the end of an arena, Bad-ass trees with super long arms that smack you, things that freeze or shock you, those fat relentless wolves that jump at your face like 5 consecutive times

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 06:05

#15

Tersakoff

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Oh right, I forgot to put

Oh right, I forgot to put bombers on my list, even the tier 1 ones have an insanely high attack rate. I mean what the heck do they even charge those bombs?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 13:42

#16

Jonathansiu

I love the sound made when I

I love the sound made when I slash a big slime with my Gran Faust. :)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 16:36

#17

Schwalala

Love/Hate

Good thread! :)

Monsters I love:
* All Slimes, most of all the Giant Lichen Colonies. With a UV Damage Bonus vs Slimes Level 10 Umbra Driver in my hands, and enough practice, I kill these things in my sleep without taking damage and whistle happy tunes as I pluck the coins from the sopping wet floor. :3

* ALL Constructs, especially Retrodes! Since I never use Piercing weapons I can basically deal with them any way I want and it's way fun. Sometimes I bring out the Agnis and watch them roast while evading their LAYZORZ, sometimes I shoot the charged Umbra Driver into the middle of the crowd and shudder in glee as about a dozen "-51"s show up at the same time, sometimes I pick them off with the Boltblade... It all depends on my mood! I find the laser attack to be fun and challenging and a good match against me, not too easy and not too frustrating.

* Greavers. Typically I hate Fiends, but Greavers aren't terrible, in fact they're a pretty good workout fighting off 12 of them as long as there aren't any other distractions nearby (such as basically anything XD but Gun Puppies and these guys are BAD NEWS). The challenge for me is killing them all at the same time without letting them attack. It keeps me alert and focused, which is a good thing.

* TROJANS BABY. EPIC OPPONENTS. Incidentally, Arenas are my all-time favorite stages EVER. (Getting killed by a Trojan would be my preferred way to die in RL, I think. Oh, and in slow motion, on a huge bridge, with fireworks being shot up all around us from underneath. And a massive flock of doves above. While shouting the most insane one-liner I could think of at the time. Yes.)

Monsters I HAET:
* Devilites. I don't even need to explain.

* Wolver Alphas, simply because it's like getting run over by a train. It's unfair how everyone else shields them and it works perfectly fine. Mine breaks EVERY TIME, and this is a Dragon Scale Shield with Pierce Res. Medium UV we're talking about. And nobody ever tells me what I'm doing wrong. -_- Oh, and sometimes they kill me in one hit even when I'm at full health.

* Devilites.

* GREMLIN MENDERS. Aaaaaaaaargh. O_O They won't die, THEY JUST WON'T DIE AND THEY DON'T STAY DEAD! Ahahahahahahaaaaaaahhhhhrrrrrrggghhhhhhh! ;___; I spent over 200 ENERGY ON REVIVES on a solo Tier 3 "Deconstuction Zone" stage FILLED with Gremlins that ressurected each-other whenever I killed them! But finally... I was able to kill off one Gremlin alone, and then another, and another, and their six or so Healers were scattered across the stage, unable to help. And by the time I found the last of them huddled together in the corner, I mercilessly murdered their women and children in front of them before I finished them off, every delectable flesh-rending swing singing an angelic chorus of justice and vengence to the Gods as they cringed before my fury. There was no forgiveness. Nothing was sacred. I killed them all and I would do it 100 times more because I DESPISE GREMLIN MENDERS WITH EVERY FIBER AND CELL OF MY EXISTENCE, TANGIBLE AND NON.

* Devilites.

* The Jelly King. ;_; Zerg Rush is not a fun thing to deal with, it's simply frustrating and I end up screaming and slamming my computer right there in the Starbucks sometimes, because my guy won't do what I tell him to because he's being SUFFOCATED BY SHEER NUMBERS OF ENEMIES. WHAT THE HECK. If you want to give me an all-powerful boss and tell me to kill it one-on-one, you got it, but this shizznit is just uncalled for with the minion spam! (Also, don't tell me to "shield bash the minions away". It doesn't work, I tried it, nothing happens. Maybe because there are MINIONS BEHIND THOSE MINIONS. Could be. >_< )

* Devilites.

* Also, Devilites.

Themes I love:
* Any of the Status ones; Fire, Freeze, Shock, Poison. :) The elements you're fighting against might be the same, but the enemy variety itself is amazing, and I prefer that.

* Jelly and Construct, hopefully on Stratums 5 and 6 when possible.

* Gremlin, SOMETIMES. I hate Gremlin Menders, but Gremlin stages usually have a lot of Constructs too, which is awesome.

* Undead, because Zombies aren't terrible and there's still quite a bit of variety if the theme is Undead. ^^ That, and Scarlet Fortress is a BEAUTIFUL stage, one of my all-time favorites. Kats are kinda hard though, when there's several of them at least.

* Any Stratum that has 2 or more Arenas at the same time. :D Sometimes I wish this whole GAME were just Arenas! It's more fun and exciting than getting ambushed, or being expected to fight a dozen Rocket Puppies on top of spikes before the gate at the other end closes or whatever :(

* Any Stratum, temporarily, while I'm inside a Graveyard. A lot of you might like to make a run for the exit, but I vastly prefer sweeping the whole stage, even on Tier 3. Aside from using my sword to break blocks in the way, it's extremely effective to bring out the Agnis and kill every enemy in the stage by weaving in and out of tombstones (summoning the Zombies) and spamming them at the intersections where the bomb would hit like six of them. Even on Tier 3 it just takes two or three direct hits and then letting them finish roasting; the Phantom never catches fire, but as long as there's no Zombies around, I can take him on with the Boltblade head-to-head and no matter what he's MUCH MORE FORGIVING than Mecha Knights, any time, any where.

* The Ironclaw Mutilitions Factory. VERY HARD stage, but the best kind of hard. Fun, exciting, thrilling, challenging and not unfair or frustrating (except for maybe the never-ending Boss Fight at the end with the timed Rocket Puzzle; I'm starting to think maybe I should buy a Cryotech Alchemer or Freezing Vaporizer just so Mecha Knights don't INVADE ME SO MUCH). Oh, and the Boss fight at the end? That there is like, Square Enix epic. Holy [frakking stuff].

Themes I hate:
* Fiends. The more likely I am to see Devilites, the higher my blood pressure will get that day. >_< If the next stage is "Devilish Drudgery", I'm happier with waiting 10 minutes for the Gate Map to cycle the levels around.

* Beasts. There is NOTHING REDEEMING WHATSOEVER about the "Wolver Den" stage. Also I find Gloaming Wildwoods a boring boss stage. (The boss itself is not boring though, in fact it's a lot of fun.)

* Gloaming Wildwoods, because it's boring. :-/ Even when I had lame equipment it was boring. If they made a "Tier 3 Edition" of Gloaming Wildwoods, though, that would probably be way awesome.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 18:54

#18

caseyweederm

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Shock is baaaaaad. It's worse

Shock is baaaaaad. It's worse than all the other ailments put together.
Shock: Prevents you from moving (see: freeze and stun), deals you constant damage (see: on fire), prevents you from using potions (see: poison), and makes you curse (see: curse).

Oh, an phantoms. Those guys are mean... Almost as mean as creepers.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 19:02

#19

Soulstaker

Well creepers gotta creep

Well creepers gotta creep right?I <3 minecraft

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 20:29

#20

ummeiko

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Let's see: I

Let's see:

I love:

Graveyards
Jelly Palace
Constructs
MOST Gun Puppies
Kiting monsters around

I hate:
Shock Stratums
Rocket Puppies
Greavers

Everything else I'm pretty indifferent on.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 20:58

#21

Lycan101

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Love:

Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCayacFcCX4

Hate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjy_7haflaM

I really don't see what the problem with learning how monsters behave on tier 1 and tier 2 and then applying said learned things on tier 3
no I don't have Ubergear and it's not bragging and it's not that hard.

Join Spiral Police if you want to learn the ropes of "knowing" the monsters and not just hoping to kill everything that moves when bashing right click.

Manifesto/FAQ of Spiral Police http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/19984

if you say "tl;dr" : well impatience is the first step for making it easy for the monsters

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 20:50

#22

Soulstaker

Jelly palace Ftw.you get 5k

Jelly palace Ftw.you get 5k from the whole palace not including JK.

Tue, 08/09/2011 - 02:43

#23

smetchetch1

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the only combo i rly hate is

the only combo i rly hate is beast/shock, especially in arenas/danger rooms :<
the rest is not so bad

edit: creepers > phantoms

Tue, 08/09/2011 - 03:20

#24

Abathur

WTF ALL NOOBS HERE!?!?

Why do all love the easy mobs and hate the strong one??? It's totally crappy if everything would be easy! Play Hello Kitty World then, i love Wolver, Devilites, and everthingelse! Harder is better!

Tue, 08/09/2011 - 05:49

#25

Tersakoff

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@Xyonon Hard is good.

@Xyonon
Hard is good. Frustrating is bad.
Devilites = most frustrating thing ever
I would rather listen to my grandma ramble about things in her childhood the millionth time while I try to explain her technology while a dog is humping my leg than go into a fiend level.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 01:09

#26

Ken-Shiro

Good: I don't know if this

Good:

I don't know if this can be confirmed, but I was able to restart on the last depth I was in even after my game crashed and I had to log back on. It happened at the most critical time when I was about to face the Roarmulus Twins. Unfortunately, when I was fighting the Jelly King with a friend, he didn't luck out so much last time and didn't get to fight the Jelly King, all of which was a waste of time. Also unfortunately ironic, is that when my game crashed again(after having lost on the IMF tier for some reason with the arena; haven't played it in awhile), it was stuck at the loading screen, so I had to manually shut the game down and when I went to log back in, I had to start back at haven. I was planning on getting a bark module today, but surprisingly I didn't even get one round(mostly cause I was grinding elsewhere; I was pretty bored of the IMF map; even though it's my favorite).

Bad:

Trials & Errors that go severely punished even with a game that has you grinding gear for days to 5 star(heat levels maxed out). For example with two gears with shadow protection(divine & deadshot mantle), it seems it offers very little in the way of protection than compared to something that doesn't offer any shadow protection at all, like the azure set. It's just so bad how they shoot you down like that after all the work that's been put through just to protect yourself from shadow creatures that become a problem especially in tier 3. You practically slave yourself for pieces of equipment that you know are suppose to work against shadow creatures for example, but doesn't really help you much at all. So the costs overly outweigh the gains. And it costs way too much to revive for us poorer people.

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