Got Pulsar as a kiting weapon. What to get as complementary weapon?
Good complementary weapon to pulsar line?
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 14:24
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 16:09
#2
Some guns
I think to kite effectively in Spiral Knights you need to maintain mobility. The Needle Shot line is going to plant you for far too long, allowing missed creatures to close the gap. It probably could still be used for kiting, but the gun's inherent properties aren't going to assist. There are many great options though:
Valiance - Good mobility, easy to acquire, every shot has knockback, normal damage so it has no damage weakness.
Argent Peacemaker - Very long range, big clip size, lots of mobility. Downside is that damage is only high on Fiends and Undead (and fiends dodge) and there is no knockback on the basic shot. Another option would be Sentenza, but unfortunately it has a short range.
Alchemers - Shock/Freeze will help with CC, Fire is going to do lots of passive damage, ricochets deal additional damage in groups, decent mobility. Downside is short range, small clip size.
Pulsar line - long range shots which have lots of knockback keeping enemies far away.
I'm not sure about kiting with a Brandish? You can "kite" in the same way you would with any sword - run in a big circle and do repeated charge attacks. The best sword for kiting is likely the DA using charge attacks due to the projectiles offering lots of knockback.
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 16:31
#3
Yeah I don't want to rely on
Yeah I don't want to rely on charge attacks, otherwise I'd just use bombs. Usually what I do with my cutter line is that, I run and when they are grouped together more or so in a line, stall, hit (before lunge) shield bounce and repeat. But I might be replacing it with a heavy sword. I'm pretty sure it'll work just fine but it seems risky as I don't have ASI bonus just yet.
Thanks, for the suggestions Culture. Might pick up something from the pulsar line as it seems pretty useful.
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 18:54
#4
I don't know what Darkslime22
I don't know what Darkslime22 is talking about. Guns were MADE for kiting. It is way easier to kite with them then a brandish, which stops you for a sec, and even moves you FORWARD. You can kite with some swords though, but that's only on a charge attack. Guns are definitely easier, and probably more effective.
For gun kiting, i'd have to agree with culture. Can't really think of another good kiting gun.
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 21:20
#5
Kiting is easy wih most guns
Kiting is easy wih most guns and bombs, and I think guns have pretty much been covered in the thread already, so I'll answer your other question. Plague needle has lower damage than Blitz, but the poison effect increases damage dealt to whatever you hit and reduces that monster's damage. I'm not sure if it's enough to buff your damage over Blitz, but it's enough to buff a full party's damage over party DPS with Blitz, and the damage reduction from the monster may save someone's life.
It's not a good kiting weapon, but it's a much better weapon for parties than Blitz, at least.
Sat, 08/06/2011 - 21:48
#6
Uh
For swords its the levi / DA. Construct arenas, graveyards, and FSC is DA. Every thing else is levi. Especially when u got MAX CTR, Levis a force to be reckoned with. Only down side to kiting with DA, is w.o any CTR, the movement speed decrease is quite annoying as it takes longer to charge up. For guns, Polaris is nice for kiting, only problem with the blitz is that its piercing so it has its disadvantages. Overall the valiance is better.
Mon, 08/08/2011 - 02:04
#7
Blaster
I agree with killerinsect about Valiance (the end of blaster line).
Also the blaster line can shoot 3 times before a reload. And if you time it right, you can shoot twice, give it a small delay, then shoot twice again. With a little practice you can use the blaster to deal out damage constantly. Blaster line also gets a bigger and bigger bullet as you upgrade, which can damage multiple targets.
The same trick works for alchemers, but you shoot only once before the delay.
Tue, 08/09/2011 - 23:49
#8
So I got an gigawatt pulsar
So I got an gigawatt pulsar and I love it to death lol.
What should I use as a complementary weapon? I currently have a blizzbrand and a vile striker. Since Blizzbrand and pulsar line are both elemental I was thinking getting something else like a barb sword for piercing damage. Along with a haze bomb (or freezing or ash?) as a third weapon. What do you guys think?
Wed, 08/10/2011 - 16:31
#9
Freezing Vaporizer goes well
Freezing Vaporizer goes well or badly with pulsar depending on what you want to do, but chances are if you have both you'll always be welcome in any group. The freeze effect will prevent the knockback from your pulsar to a limited degree, which'll increase your dps, or hold off monsters while you fight more - on the other hand, sometimes you WANT to knock back monsters.
There aren't really any swords that complement Pulsars, mainly because the Pulsar relies on and causes enemies to be far away, and swords need to be used at close range. For this reason, it doesn't matter what sword you use with it, as long as you're comfortable with said sword - piercing swords, however, would be a good complement to your otherwise all elemental lineup at this point, and if you want to kite, the snarble barb is the best of the lot. The other choice is shadow, which gives you either faust or acheron. Leviathan blade's always a fair choice, but avoid Triglav or Sudaruska if you prefer kiting.
That said, there's nothing stopping you from using direct damage bombs for piercing. Sun shards or spine cone line work fine, or perhaps a graviton vortex to help gather mobs for your pulsar to shoot. Nitronome is a little redundant, seeing as pulsars basically shoot smaller ones from range.
Fri, 08/12/2011 - 17:50
#10
I find that pulsar and the
I find that pulsar and the gravi / electron line are epic...
Not sure about kiting with guns, but it's really easy and effective to kite with the Brandish line's charge attacks, especially in arenas.