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Make Snarbolax Shield Shadow Defense and not Piercing

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Mon, 08/15/2011 - 13:15
Duke_Nukem
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Seriously, it's a shield covered in darkness, and yet it defends against piercing. genius[/sarcasm] -_____-

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 14:33
#1
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Exactaly. +1

Exactaly. +1

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 14:40
#2
Duke_Nukem
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drlequack, i'd like to add

drlequack, i'd like to add you in-game.

(My in-game name is Cirnothebaka)

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 14:45
#3
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Madadder
but its a snarbolax shield

but its a snarbolax shield and the snarbolax is a piercing dealing monster

its only right that its a piercing resist shield

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 14:47
#4
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
You could make a shadow line

You could make a shadow line of it. Alternate path. It could be gloaming sheild or something.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 14:51
#5
Madadder's picture
Madadder
only if u remove the attack

only if u remove the attack damage buff the shield normally as and gives it like IAS med

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 15:14
#6
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Why would you need to change

Why would you need to change the attack buff? Though ASI would be more useful.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 15:16
#7
Duke_Nukem
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nooo it's the only shield

nooo it's the only shield that gives sword dmg buff

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 15:18
#8
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Madadder
because you would need to

because you would need to differentiate the shields and its not enough just to change one of the resistances from piercing to shadow

maybe we also need to give it a negative status resistance to say Stun or something as well

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 16:43
#9
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Orangeo
@duke nukem Were saying like

@duke nukem
Were saying like an alternate alcemy path, the old sheild stays unscathed.
@monkeyman135
I think it would be more useful if it had shadow defense and ASI. Then I could use it with mad bomber and sklover and have 2 medium bonuses for bombs, and 2 medium bonuses for swords, and sort of have all forms of defense.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 16:50
#10
Madadder's picture
Madadder
ok make it sword ASI only or

ok make it sword ASI only or just drop the buff altogether

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 16:54
#11
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Hmm? Not shure what you

Hmm? Not shure what you meant.
The old sheild should stay with low peircing and damage bonus, it makes it the equivelant of a sklover sheild, minus the freeze ressist.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 17:04
#12
Madadder's picture
Madadder
balance is required lequack u

balance is required lequack u need to think about balance

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 18:10
#13
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
It's perfectly balanced.

I am thinking about balance. low ASI is equal to low damage bonus. peircing is equal to shadow. So If there were to be a sheild exactaly the same as the snarbolax sheild, but with shadow instead of peircing, and attack speed increase instead of damage bonus, they would be balanced. One might be more useful than the other, but they are perfectly balanced, becuase they have an equal tradeoff.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 18:37
#14
Madadder's picture
Madadder
im just going to say they

im just going to say they aren't equal they are different and require different ways to balance

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 02:33
#15
stupysays
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@DrLequack , Duke_Nukem

Sorry, going to have to disagree with you guys.

First.

Snarbolax shield is from his piercing line. It fits the theme of the level in which you receive the tokens. So no. If there was an alternate path that had shadow it wouldn't receive a damage bonus. And if it was a bonus I can hardly call adding IAS a great idea either. We have an IAS shield that adds to both guns AND swords. The shield is essentially a bubble. You pay for the overall increase to dps with a weaker shield.

Two.

If you had a Normal/Shadow shield that increased damage as well? Then there's no reason to get a Crest of Almire or bring another good shield with Normal/Elemental and a shadow UV to FSC. So no that won't happen either. No one would have any other reason to take any other shadow defense shield because of one shield that fits the bill overall. You want a damage bonus? You deal with a suboptimal shield for defense, either roll a shadow uv on it or become more proficient in dodging.

This is a case of having a cake and wanting to eat it too.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 05:00
#16
Duke_Nukem
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@stupy The cake is a

@stupy
The cake is a lie.

@lequack
We don't want a shield that's like Skolver. THERE ARE NO SHADOW ANYTHINGS THAT BOOST SWORD/BOMB DAMAGE.

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