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How about some new shields?

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Sun, 08/21/2011 - 09:40
Flaame's picture
Flaame

That give a Damage Bonus for Gunslingers and Bombers?
Seems like all the love is going to the Swordmasters with what little love is left over for Gunslingers and Bombers. It's often very disheartening.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:11
#1
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Bombers get all the love in

Bombers get all the love in the end. Chicks dig suppourt fire. Gunners just run for their lives and let me take hits. I'm imagining a guy in full volcanic demo, surrounded by women, saying;
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer dos equis. Stay thirsty, my freinds."
On a serious note though, we need more sheilds. regardless of gun or bomb bonuses or whatever. We need more sheilds.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 14:06
#2
Duke_Nukem
Legacy Username
No-one likes bombers.

No-one likes bombers.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 14:15
#3
Orangeo's picture
Orangeo
Insert sadface. Drink dos

Insert sadface. Drink dos equis.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 19:37
#4
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
What Dark Ritual?

-1

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 22:15
#5
souron
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What lack of contribution?

I wouldn't mind seeing 'gimmicky' shields. We have gimmicky swords, like the spur series – even sealed sword could potentially fit in the category, gimmick guns like the pulsar and catalyzer, and gimmicky bombs like the vortex line.

Basicly, we have certain types of weapons that have various bonus outside of the normal spectrum. Gimmicks that make them useful even if their actual damage output is inferior. Shields with bonuses are cool, like the swiftstrike buckler. But I wouldn't mind seeing a shield that functioned slightly different than normal shields. Ideas.

Mario Cape – okay, this shouldn't be an actual cape. I'm just thinking of the mario cape in SSB: where it flips any oncoming object, person or projectile, in the opposit direction. So if a missle comes at you you fling it back. If an alpha comes at you it turns around bites away. It could look like a mirror or something, and have the 'flip' apply only at the very beginning of the shield pull.

Shield wall – shields that get stronger if it's close to the other shield wall shields. The numbers would have to be finessed, of course, so it wouldn't be overpowered. but it would make certain situations, like taking down a bullet hell section more interesting.

I'd just like to see shields that have redeeming value outside of just being normal shields.

Wed, 08/24/2011 - 11:15
#6
Leafxc's picture
Leafxc
lol bombers dont need shield

lol bombers dont need shield , just let them hold another bomb instead of shield , so they can drop 2 bombs at once

Wed, 09/07/2011 - 16:19
#7
Olajdzija
bomb sheild

a shield that explodes the moment you put it up setting your entire party on fire for 30 seconds,
oh and it sets the " The Most Interesting Man in the World " on fire when drinking

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 05:37
#8
Effrul's picture
Effrul
I actually think there's

I actually think there's potential in gunner and bomber shields, at least from a design perspective. I'd like to see a cross between SK's idiosyncartic technology style and a police riot shield for gunners, for example, that could perhaps carry such as a CTR bonus for handguns, at the cost of some defensive power (after all, gunners are heavily focused on avoiding attacks, even moreso than other players).

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 13:43
#9
Quasirandom's picture
Quasirandom
I say no. Don't try to tempt

I say no. Don't try to tempt players to pick gimpy builds that will get them killed in pursuit of higher damage. The only reason barbarous thorn shield is remotely viable is that there aren't any good normal/piercing shields. Normal/elemental gets grey owlite and heater shields. Normal/shadow gets crest of almire and dread skelly shield. Normal/piercing gets nothing, so people use barbarous thorn shield not because it is good, but because the alternative to putting the stat points in an offensive bonus is stupid stuff like stun resistance and sleep resistance.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 19:40
#10
Metamare's picture
Metamare
@Quizzical

You're forgeting Aegis which sports, if the bars don't lie, better Normal/Peircing stats then Barb.

Thu, 09/08/2011 - 22:32
#11
stupysays
Legacy Username
well..

Bombs increase safety by dealing damage and most times knock back while doing so in a large radius. There are also damage trinkets or bombtastic/mad bomber.

Guns deal damage at a safe range and now come with knock back further decreasing the possibility for damage taken. Also come with damage trinkets and nameless to increase overall damage capabilities.

Swordsmen game play is high risk high reward. That's the intent of the build.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 00:30
#12
Geregias's picture
Geregias
New shields, like the thread is titled

SO 2 new shields to fill the remaining defense type slots, pierce/shadow and elemental/shadow

realistically i would have thought the barbarous thorn shield should fill the shadow/pierce slot (its a shield designed to protect the wielder from beasts and is imbued with the essence of the snarbolax, a creature which encases itself in darkness)
any way the thorn shield series are too well established to have such a change made to them but there is another armour piece that could lend its name to a new shield, (radiant )silvermail (a [radiant] silverhelm would be an excellent addition as well but that's for another thread)
reskin the wyvern and dragon scale shield models with appropriate colours and you've got a potential candidate for the model

second shield mentioned was elemental/shadow shield, admittedly not as useful as a grey owlite due to the lack of normal but still it fills a style of defense that currently has no corresponding shield - although i cant think of what it should look like

in addition how about a shield, possibly plate derivation, with mediocre defense stats and decent defense to all status effects.
from the plate example it would be a 5* shield with slightly less normal and health than its counterparts but status defense to all(or at least most) status ailments

As it stands we could stand to gain from attack damage bonus shields for both gunners and bombers, sacrifice some defense for greater attack for ALL STYLES OF GAME PLAY not just sword users, these kind of 'gimmicky shields' can change how people play and may well result in people actually obtaining different shields to just barbarous thorn and grey owlite (which would be fantastic, im getting bored of every player having one of two shields, not quite true but close enough)

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