Spiral Knights - Voltedge vs Divine Avenger

Voltedge vs Divine Avenger

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Sun, 08/21/2011 - 10:05

Neo-Keiko

All right, so having owned both Gran Faust and Divine Avenger, getting used to and loving both, I decided to take a chance and try out Acheron. After doing so, I decided to drop Gran Faust, as I was having much more fun with Acheron, and its charge attack is amazing by comparison. So this got me thinking... Perhaps I could replace Divine Avenger with a Brandish elemental branch?

However, as much as I want to immediately jump at Combuster, I don't want a "chance for fire" sword simply because of FSC. And I don't really want Glacius either, as I prefer a more damaging status effect, and with a slight abundance in Shivermist Busters, more freeze wouldn't really be helping as much.

So the only option for consideration IMO would be Voltedge. But I want to be absolutely sure that the work I'll put into obtaining all those Krogmo coins won't be wasted. For the most part, I have no concerns with FSC, as undead generally give me no problems. My main concern is constructs. The quick KB on Divine Avenger has helped me many times by interrupting certain problem constructs, such as Rocket Puppies and Mecha Knights. However I'm unsure if it wouldn't just be better to take an extra hit or 2 in order to kill them quicker, and comparing their charge attacks isn't as simple as Acheron vs Gran Faust.

Long story short, I'd like opinions, please! Or perhaps some insight I probably missed somewhere that would help steer my decision.

Edit: Should probably mention I have Maximum ASI from full Vog/Elite Quick Strike Module.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 10:35

Slimstrasza

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Think about what each weapon

Think about what each weapon has for you

DA boast high dmg, longer range, and effective charge, but lacks DPS..slow as hell, could get annoying. I have it, I can get srsly annoyed.

Brandish Line has higher DPS, solid 3 swing combo and explosion charge.

If I were to go back in time, I'd go with Brandish because I miss stringing combos....not -thwack- -shield- -thwack- -shield- rinse and repeat.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 10:48

Wooyari

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DA is a TON better with vog.

Really, I don't want to sound like a total jerk, but having Vog makes the DA sooooo much more viable.
I can easily mow through verrryyy many enemies with my DA, and if you don't like vog, there are always those trinkets.
At any rate, I love my DA.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 10:51

Neo-Keiko

Precisely why I'm thinking of

Precisely why I'm thinking of replacing it. I'm not so much annoyed by its speed so much as after that 2nd swing, I can't shield when I really need it. Or even try to run, at least. But...all those Krogmo coins...not looking forward to that at all if I decide on Voltedge.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 10:53

Neo-Keiko

@Wooyari: This is coming from

@Wooyari: This is coming from someone with full vog+medium ASI trinket. I have maximum ASI, and it makes Divine Avenger so much better, no doubt. But then again, it can also make something like Voltedge amazing as well.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:04

Wooyari

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Sorry! That was a bit stupid of me.

I keep forgetting how Vog is the most common armor set among the five-stars.
Also, I do keep an Acheron around, and it is a fast sword, and I do like it's charge, but the normal attacks don't seem
to have the large ranges that my Avenger has. Charge attacks might be a different story though.
At any rate, if you choose to get the Voltedge, I hope it turns out great!

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:27

Michaelb

Whats weird is that I was

Whats weird is that I was just about to make a discussion about this same thing....

My opinion, though, is that Voltedge is better. I think so because it's almost
as powerful and shocks; which is definitely a powerful status.

But the DA's charge is definitely better.

I have an Acheron, and it's
pretty much a better
sword than the other
Brandishes.

Certainly better than GF.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:38

Neo-Keiko

@michael99: If you want to

@michael99: If you want to make a dedicated discussion about this, go right ahead. If anything I can shut down this topic so you can have it. Seems like I'll be going Voltedge, as I prefer regular attacks over charging anyhow.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:20

Michaelb

Um, dont take it personally.

@Neo_Nocturna:I was just saying that, and I didn't mean to monopolize the topic... I only wanted to make small talk. I'm terrible at posting on these forums, so you seem like you'd do a better job anyway.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:31

Neo-Keiko

@michael99: I'm sorry, I

@michael99: I'm sorry, I wasn't implying that at all. The thing is, the motivation behind this topic is pretty selfish. I just wanted to be reassured of my decision. But I don't want this thread to keep an actual, meaningful discussion from going on.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 13:04

#10

Michaelb

oh.

oh. well, ok, but i have 2 forums to run and if you give me this then it might go up in flames....

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 13:39

#11

Espeonage

Brandishes make Constructs

Brandishes make Constructs simple.
Attack-cancelling Puppies is easy, you can usually chain it by mashing that attack button. You can pretty much circle-strafe Pups and Lumbers with each slash.
As for Maverick Knights/Retrodes, Brandish charge kiting is the way to go.

Additionally; if you solo often, you might find the Glacius' Freeze better, as it's easier to chain charge attacks.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 15:31

#12

Neo-Keiko

@Espeonage: Thanks alot, I

@Espeonage: Thanks alot, I liked your answer, especially the insight for Glacius. Something else to think about.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 19:09

#13

Extred

Really depends on the situation

I think it really depends on the situation, for example if u r facing a horde of zombies coming at you, a DA would knock them back without a problem, and even if you are cornered, you can just keep knocking them back and end the fight without a scratch but for DPS purposes, a 3 hit sword is definitely better, so in the end I end up carrying both DA and a leviathan.

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 02:55

#14

Xylka-Mkii

The way I see it ( I dont

The way I see it ( I dont have either) is that the Voltedge is a mix between Leviathan and DA with a zap of Shock and slightly less damage but Levi's DPS increased.
I got leviathan, a Gigawatt pulsar and a Barbarous thorn for FSC. it owns trojans. I say go for Voltedge and if you dont like it then sell it or keep for backup.

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 04:55

#15

Teejayhira

Voltedge!

I have one with CTR high and ASI very high(thanks to vog cub coat + elite quickstrike).
You wont regret it.You can string a whole combo with it.Charge then 3 strike combo while they are shocked.Kills them in a 2 person team instantly.And you'll be surprised at how well the charged attacks work in the last room of D26 FSC and the first room of D26 FSC.It isnt that good for trojans tho.You wont regret it!I do carry a DA for those times when I need it along with a Argent and Polaris.

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 06:58

#16

Wfawwer

Just a tidbit of info- Shock

Just a tidbit of info-
Shock is GREAT for fsc. Due to it's spreading nature, a voltedge charge can turn shock an entire mob of zombies. I prefer glacius though, as shock messes up my monster timings.

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