Spiral Knights - Gunners vs Gremlins?

Gunners vs Gremlins?

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Sun, 08/21/2011 - 18:22

Captain-Teemo

What guns have you had success with again the Gremlin horde?

I used to use a shadow tech alchemer and it worked alright, but their dodging was annoying. I used the Magnus after that, it does only neutral damage but hits before they can dodge and the knock up can keep them stun locked pretty well. The dps is pretty low though since I only have a 2 shot clip, and standing still to shoot is a pain in the butt.

I just crafted a Virulent Catalyzer thinking that might be a good option, but I ran the first strata of fsc (currently gremlins) and felt the gun was almost useless because of the bullet speed + their dodge spam... I figured the poison would help cut the menders off, but with the dodging I can't keep them poisoned, or even taking much damage...

Eventually I reverted to some bombing, and worked my way though with the good old aoa <_<

But I'd really like a gunner option - does anyone know a gun that is effective against gremlins? Right now it seems the magnus is the best just b/c they can't dodge it <_<

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 18:38

Michaelb

hrmm....

I was perplexed by this decision a while ago, and Sentenza/Blackhawk seems like the best option...
But I also think that you're right on about the poison. So I think that Toxic/Blight/Plague Needle
would be one of the better options, too.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 19:54

Captain-Teemo

hm... I haven't equiped my

hm... I haven't equiped my blackhawk in a LONG time... I'll try that one. It will be funny if I upgrade to sentenza b/c of gremlins alone XD

Is plague needle an auto gun? How do those work with gremlin dodge?

edit - took my black hawk into the t3 grems before fsc and it actually seems to be working well lol XD I guess I'ma look for a sentenza recipe soon xD

Thx for the advice.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 19:56

Flamdrenite

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Holy...

O_O That's gotta be the first time I've see anyone on the forums boasting the merits of the Sentenza. Ever. I am suitably impressed.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 19:58

Bigfootm

What Dark Ritual?

Same. All I Ver hear (I go along with them) is that the sentenza is terrible.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 20:43

Captain-Teemo

Well tell ya what! I went

Well tell ya what! I went along with them too, until now - against Grems sentenza == pro O_O

I haven't had any difficulty with menders out healing me at all. Screw this biohazard <_<

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 20:43

Pupu

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Blitz

A point blank charged blitz needle is guaranteed to one shot any gremlin (including menders before they can shield) in a duo party.

Sun, 08/21/2011 - 22:56

GoottiKustaa

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Shadow alchemers gain bullet

Shadow alchemers gain bullet speed with each * rating, so my umbra driver is almost undodgeable if I shoot directly at a gremlin. Sideways, they might dodge, but once you learn how they dodge, it is not an issue. T3 gremlins you have to shoot from the front anyway, and they are easy prey to an umbra driver.

Mon, 08/22/2011 - 02:09

Synkronos

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Biohaz

You just run at them double-tapping your Biohaz and back them into a corner. They constantly dodge away from you, and once they're trapped you just finish them off like fish in a barrel. They don't even attack you at all.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 05:11

Fraxur

You think having to stand

You think having to stand still to fire a Magnus is a pain in the butt? I have Toxic Needle and I have to stand still for a longer time, I don't think it is too annoying, you just have to stand as far as you can (as much as the range allows you) and fire away. And also, Toxic Needle (and I am guessing Needle Shot as well) have absolutely no problem of landing a hit on Gremlins since the angle of fire is quite large, so you can be assured that they can be killed easily. Magnus is a excellent option for dodging enemies from what other people said so you can use that as well.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 06:40

#10

Abathur

Against Gremlins i tried

Against Gremlins i tried everything:
Sentenza ist just awful, cause its only worth against gremlins and not even good at all...
Nova Driver is just too small damage, it takes hours to kill em.
Supernova (didnt test) no gunslinger ever would take a normal type weapon. Same as Sentenza it would be just "useful" against gremlins. Even there, just moderate damage.
Biohazard is only good against the Fireguys of the gremlins or with charge in arena for masses of them to poison em and prevent heal. Medium weapon, requires a team.

So i went to other guns and i found these two that really rock against Gremlins!
Callahan allows you to stun lock (permanently let a gremlin fall back, unable to move or act) 1 or 2 gremlins. If you got ASI you can handle with lv10 gun even 4 of them, if you hit 2 with one bullet each. Rarely happens with Callahan.
Blitz Needle is way the best weapon against them. 2nd longest Range of all guns in the game, just behind the Biohazard (ya rly) with a charge attack that even oneshots an healer if you are 2 guys in party. Also destroyes the bubble really fast. Charge attack kills every Gremlin immediantely. Massive splash damage with 15 bullets where 5-10 are hitting between them -> 2 hits. Charge will stun lock gremlins.

Blitz Needle is so great against them, no Shadow weapon can handle this. ONLY CHARGE ATTACK!!

Abathur ingame name ;)

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