Yes it is. My FoV is heat 10 with UV Ctr med, while I am using a trinket to make it CTR MAX!
I can one hit most if not all things with my Fang of Vog in FSC. Do I get burned? Yes, occasionally. Does it bother me? No.
Get a FoV people... It's worth it.
What a suckers sword! U get lit up for 1-5 bars of damage for using the charge attack about 60% of the time. I almost never see advanced players using this sword, and the occasional fool who does dies often and quickly in every party I've been in. But, hey, i love to sell them in the ah!
Swordsmen have Vog set. It gives pretty decent fire resistance.
Also it has a Levi-style charge, which makes it pretty damn good against anything except gremlins and beasts.
Sounds like a waste of a trinket slot if you already have med CTR redux. You get maybe ~0.5 seconds reduction going from V.high => max.
Regardless of the usability of FoV, for people who dont have that many almirian seals a stronger choice is Blackened Crest so you can get the Crest of Almire (unless you have Grey Owlite Shield).
I heard that FoV is much slower than other 3-hit swords, can anyone please post a video of the speed comparison between FoV and something like Combuster? Or you can just tell how many combos you can do in 1 minute with each sword. I am just starting to do FSC right now and I am really not sure if I want to get it or not.
By any chance can someone tell me which one to get first, FoV or BC?
Advanced players don't use fov, only newbie or people who lack of alternatives used them.
Or players who like the tremendously powerful charge attack and aren't bad enough that they'll die for using it. The genuinely bad people are the ones unable to grasp that Spiral Knights is neither a tremendously difficult game nor one that actually rewards you for playing especially well or consequently punishes you for not doing so, and by extension desperately fawning over the 'top' gear and never using anything outside of that little bubble of elitism is fundamentally pointless. There are people that solo tier 3 danger rooms in Proto Gear, there is absolutely no reason a moderately skilled player cannot use a Fang of Vog effectively, and there is certainly no need to brand the people that do fools or noobs.
It's weird how a game that's so inherently casual in nature attracts such petty elitism.
Anyhow as others have said the issues with the Fang of Vog are that it's slower than other 'standard' three swords such as the Calibur and Brandish lines, the charge can be pretty much suicidal if you don't have a subtantial amount of fire resist (Ideally max) and the current end-game stratum is fire-based (Although the FoV is extremely useful for dispatching trojans and slag guards). It's not bad, it's just as a general rule against most enemies in tier 3 you'll be far safer with weapons which are either faster which allows for quicker shield cancelling, or have more knockback. The tremendous damage the charge attack deals make up for it to some extent and there's no denying how insanely destructive a FoV can be in an arena or a danger room when used by someone with excellent timing, but for a lot of people it's simply too high maintanence for a reward that isn't incredibly substantial comparative to other five star swords. If you do want to use it max fire resist and attack speed increase are obviously extremely helpful so Vog is the go-to choice, and CTR trinkets/UVs are nice for making the charge easy to deploy when you need it.
^ I somewhat disagree with you.
"Or players who like the tremendously powerful charge attack and aren't bad enough that they'll die for using it"
I don't get how you can be bad by using charge and die, it's not like there's any skill in a luck based fire status. Or perhaps you don't die, but is that HP loss really going to be worth the extra three-four hits that will make up for the charge attack? Are you considered bad for risking HP for extra damage?
The added damage is hardly enough to compensate for the drawback of being burned.
Anyway, the question asked here is whether or not if FoV is worth it.
Yes FoV can be used effectively and is a completely viable weapon, there aint nothing wrong in using it, but it's output is significantly less then that of other main-streamed swords. At the moment, FoV is there for either bragging rights or to dish out pure damage for teh lulz in tier 1-2. I could never see it's output match that of other 5* elemental swords in endgame situations.
There's nothing wrong to brand such people as fools/n00bs ('silly' would be a better substitute), if they honestly BELIEVE that their FoV can outshine someone else's DA/brandishline. I don't see why you consider it elitism (maybe if they were being [fabulous] about it then it'd be okay) if someone was to point out that their choice of weapon is actually worse then yours. I guess guyjin was a bit harsh, but he was just pointing out facts. But hey, it's just BigfootM the big troll... so meh.
If a newbie/new player was to read the OP's comment and decides to invest in a FoV, only to find out that his FoV isn't as good as other elemental swords. Then yes he is going to think that his investment wasn't worth it, whether or not if he can solo the entire game with perfection with it does not factor in the argument, he/she can always do it better with an alternative. [Hope that answers your question EliteChamp.]
Bottom line, FoV's output isn't worth it's value at the moment and should be left as a i-got-bored-of-da-and-levi-and-brandish-so-i'm-going-to-risk-my-hp-for-for-teh-lulz-because-i-can-afford-it-and-theres-no-new-content-and-i'm-about-to-quit-spiral-knights weapon.
But yes, FoV's charge was considerably fun.... for a while.
All credit goes to EliteChamp and the peeps who helped him. EliteChamp said in the thread Fang of Vog vs. Combuster. Combuster wins imo.
"I think there are threads about FoV vs Combuster so you should do a search before posting. But I am going to tell you anyways.
FoV
Pros
-Able to inflict fire on both the normal attack and the charged attack.
-Has a extremely powerful charged attack (360 degrees and can hit up to 4 times), using the charged attack on Trojans 1 to 2 times and you can say good-bye to them. Using the charged attack on JK means that you can kill him in 40 seconds (stat provided by someone else).
Cons
-Can inflict fire on the normal attack which means if you use FoV on Oilers, they will be set ablaze and recover health. In large groups of blazing Oilers, you are sure to be dead.
-Slower than most 3-hit swords.
-The charged attack can set you on fire as well as setting monsters on fire. With max Fire resist, you are still going to lose 4-5 bars of health (stat again provided by someone else).
-It is the hardest sword to obtain.
-Less power than Combuster (the normal attacks).
Combuster
Pros
-More attacking power.
-Far more easier to obtain
-Sets fire only on the charged attack which means you can control when to inflict fire and when not to (like in an arena full of Oilers).
-The charged attack doesn't set yourself on fire.
-It has a explosive charged attack with 2-3 explosions following up to the slash. The explosions can inflict fire like the slash.
-Faster which means more DPS (Damage Per Second).
Cons
-Doesn't set fire on the normal attack which means that if you want to inflict fire in non-Oiler environment you have to charge and kite.
-Less powerful charged attack.
From above, I think Combuster is definitely better than FoV."
Because guyjin never once implied he was referring to unknowledgable people that don't know the full nature of the damage values surrounding weapons, just people using the Fang of Vog in general. Someone can be completely aware of the damage difference and simply consider it not substantial enough to alter their decision to use the weapon and that once again is hardly in any wayconcievable as being either noobish or foolish, perhaps if we were talking about some game where playing to the highest calibur (Pardon the pun) actually mattered but again; Spiral Knights is not a game we're you even need semi-decent gear to succeed, and consequently there is little no reason to make any form of judgment around someone based on their gear choice unless they're actively flaunting how 'pro' it is. Granted Bigfoot no doubt had such a comment coming, but Guyjin seemed to be aiming it more generally than just at Bigfoot and other delusional people, and just at people no using optimal gear for whatever reason. Perhaps I'm simply misinterpeting his remark and if so I apologize.
Eh no need.
I, once falling victim of semi-misinformed threads, got a faust over avenger. (Not saying faust is bad, just that I had nothing available for FSC for a while) So I felt the need to clear up the viability of FoV since I surmised that in a newbies point of view, your post would be somewhat backing it up.
Though it seems you were were more concerned with the attitude and morale of the player base.
I interpreted guyjins post as referring to the FoV users who carelessly die/flaunt it rather then the FoV users who succeed, so I didn't really pay attention to the terms fool/noob as it would be marginally true. (but I did suggest silly).
And it was also Bigfoot that guyjin was mainly addressing (or so I assume)... so I subconsciously ignored it further.
eh? how do you do t3 danger rooms in proto? I do like 8 damage per swing and 9 with the last one. I would have assumed it was impossible to outdamage menders with those numbers.
In different situations, it's either the worst sword to have or the best. You can only safely use the charge when you have high health and know you'll get more later, or when you have remedies. Despite that, it is by FAR one of the highest-damaging charge attacks in the game. In tier 3, should all three hits connect, it deals upwards of 1600 damage. I use a Fang, and from experience, I know that a single charge can severely damage a Trojan; if the three hits themselves don't outright kill it, it'll die from the fire, most of the time. Coupled with a vortex bomb, two charges can wipe out an entire round 3 arena mob. With at least CTR Med on both the Fang and the vortex bomb, you can use that combination alone.
The thing with FoVs is that you have to think things through. Will the charge's damage on the enemies outweigh the health I might lose? Will I get hit by the enemies in the process? How and when can I hit as many enemies as possible? Like I said before, it's either the worst sword or the best... but it's not like it's the only weapon you have to use; if necessary, you can whip out a reliable ranged weapon.
As for the burn damage, it's negligible in all tiers but 3 except for the prevention of any charge attacks. In tier 3, with maxed fire resist, it only deals about four bars of damage to you. In most cases, you can just heal the damage it did back with dropped hearts or pads between arena rounds. The ONLY case where the damage is noticeable is in very long fights or in levels where you get few hearts, if any.
In the case of FoV vs. Combuster, it's just a preference between defense in the form of pure, overly destructive offense or versatility and control over when you set things on fire and when you don't.
Never did get around to mailing me your Fang guide did you, Draycos? Oh, well, I'll use this for now, and edit it when you send me the in game mail.
[@ ReuLogh] When have you ever seen a newbie or person without alternatives get a FoV? its the most difficult weapon to obtain in the game :P I can only assume you are one of the missinformed newbies you were refering to :P
[@ iYeo] Faust is an awesome weapon :D I wish I got one before my DA but that was at a time when everyone was for some reason calling it crap and useless.... seriously, the best shadow weapon in the game :) (debatable I know, but my opinion is the best :P)
[@ People who claim the FoV has crap damage] You don't own one, this much is clear, stop reading the anti-FoV threads and start thinking for yourself :P
[@ People who claim the FoV is the "omg so awesomenest great" weapon] Yes, you just got your FoV, enjoy the easy RJ wins and try not to kill yourself infront of me again... seriously :P
BigFootM: We got the SAME FoV (CTR MED) and with trinkets dat thing is MAX yo!!
+1 on FoV recommendation. Some people don't like the fire chance but personally I think it's badass. That's the thing you get for handling a powerful sword.