i love when people get excited over a t2 stratum with a bunch of arenas and a graveyard. guess where most of your new found profits are going? hint: not in your pocket.

makes me wish they nerf arena earnings in line with other levels.

I have mostly all lvl 4* equip.
When learning the game I wasted CEs on purchasing and upgrading dead end equip (like spiral plate helm and spiral plate mail)

Beyond the starter pack, I have not purchased any new CEs; I keep an ample reserve of Cr and CE to use as needed. If I see something selling at a bargain in the AH i try to purchase it and resell it at a profit. e.g. the other day I bought a Calibur w/ a UV that I felt was underpriced, and turned it around and had it sold w/in a day for over 2x what I purchased it for.

If you want to just hack and slash; and you don't want to bother w/ the economics of the game, you should be the last to complain about CE Prices. You want to hack and slash all you want whenever you want, own up and buy some CE w/ real $.

Otherwise, bargain hunt and trade shrewdly and you'll earn yourself enough CE and Cr to support your needs. Just don't spend it all upgrading your equip and then complain you don't have enough CE to do other stuff; so you want others to sell it to you cheaply because you're too lazy to work at the game.

i won't bother to say this in every thread. or even to come back to this thread, probably.
But 2*-3*-4* players could be a little more creative. I'm sure many top end players who have riches and are tired of grinding, forever grinding, to heat up their latest pretties would be more than happy to carry you through full arena's you cant handle by yourself. giving you the most bang for your buck. in exchange for your heat at the end. (u dying on the spikes). while you'll not be heating up gear, i'm sure a lot of these players are stuck with maxed out 2-4* gear anyways. so they don't need the heat.

i've never once seen someone in trade chat say

"plz carry me thru T2 arena. will give heat @ end!!" it would get positive responses.
heck. i've got a magic hood i'm leveling to grey feather cowl. And i'd gladly drag a couple 2-3 star newbs with me in exchange for their heat.

Good Luck with that. Personally, I like the ce prices high instead of low, and people do cry about it, but well if you spend real money on ce wouldn't you want more crowns for your dollar? I know I do lol....anyways this game is easily playable without spending a dollar I know many that have multiple 5* sets and made a good lump of ce just playing spiral knights without spending a penny kinda makes me sad since I spent a few dimes and nickels. But, anyways good luck with your venture I have seen longer posts than yours most likely made some as well =0..... Umm, ce prices will always be too high or too low there is no equal level which both sides will agree upon...its basically an argument no one can win.

Yes, I do agree not everyone is 5*. So I invented help a random noob out every day. Basically when you see some nice random noob you trade them stuff and give them tips and pointers. Today, I gave this random girl or guy who was new to spiral knights: A haze bomb, demo helm piercing low uv, brandish, blast bomb, and some plate armor along with an owlite shield with medium shock resistance. That will save that knight some cash. If each person can help out a newb each day well thats one more player who won't beg. =)

Couple of problems with this plan...

First, the math fail. If you make 200 CE/day, then getting to 10k CE will take you 50 days. That's a lot longer than from now until mid-September.

As pointed out, assuming prices remain constant, you could "re-invest" that CE to play more and earn more per day, and it might be possible to make your goal. But 200 CE/day isn't cutting it. To want to turn your current 650 CE into 10k CE by Sept. 16 (19 days), you'll need to make an AVERAGE of over 492 CE per day.

Second, the economic fail. You state that you're doing this to try to lower the CE price. That is not how supply and demand works.

Buying CE from other players doesn't create any new CE in the game, it just moves it around. Any CE you buy is that much CE that someone else can't buy--by hoarding CE and removing it from circulation, you are decreasing the supply of CE, which makes the price go UP, because the same number of players are bidding for a smaller amount.

If you sell that CE when you're done, then you're putting it back into circulation. That will make the price go back down...to approximately the point it would ALREADY be at if you had never hoarded it in the first place.

According to basic micro-economics, your master plan to lower the cost of CE and keep it down will do the following:
1. Raise the price of CE while you are carrying it out
2. Return the price of CE to normal levels when you are done, producing no lasting change

Of course, that assumes you only spend mist energy. If you spend CE to adventure more in an effort to make your goal of 10k, then the CE you spent on elevators is gone forever, and you are making the price of CE go up in the short term AND in the long term.

If you want to make the price of CE go down, you've really only got one option. What you do is:
1. Buy CE with real money, to increase the total supply in the game.
2. Then sell it to other players, putting it into circulation.

Whether you decide to do that is up to you. But trying to do anything else in order "to lower prices for all players" is just an elaborate self-deception.

So let me get this straight, your saying that with your daily 100 Mist energy that your raking in enough cash to buy 200CE. So simpily your saying that a JK run plus maybe 2 more levels after that is enough to get.....hmm to the exchange rate 100 CE is going for!

Oh that would be around 13K Crowns ATM to buy 200 CE and you say a Jelly King run with the 100 Mist Energy you get every 22hrs is enough to earn enough crowns to buy 200 CE, I can tell you now Ive done JK for almost a year now and with the recent updates nerfing the money that drops in that run, your lucky to get 8000K out of it. So in reality a JK run with these current soaring prices will buy you 100 CE.

Now I'm not saying your ideas rubbish, I'm just saying your calculations are a bit off, so lets be realistic and say 100CE can be earned in a day off of a Boss Stratum run.

I would also like to put this scenario forward now... What if you wanted to upgrade your *2 item all the way to its final *5 variant off of CE bought of boss runs each day using the crowns you've earned, with a gain of 100 CE a day.

That one *2 item to get to *5 will cost a total of 1400 CE, meaning 14 days/2 weeks of nothing but boss runs, that is not including the cost of mats or crafting.

But I still do encourage you to undertake this en-devour, Id like to see how it turns out.

Now. i spend a lot of time just looking at the market tab of the energy store

what seems to happen is that people raise their price according to the current market, and raise it gradually by one or so,

however, it seems that some people decide to make big leaps and raise it by 50 or more,

then the next person raises his/her price according to them, therefore the market inflates according to the amount of people selling,

its when people start to buy lots of crowns (usually some time after school ends) is when the buyers essentially filter out the big leaps in prices some have made

Therefore, when more people are on, the price of energy typically goes down,

now depending on your stance, you can TRY to help shift the market either up or down

if you want energy to increase, that means that you make giant leaps within the market, thus having everything else follow

if you want it to decrease (like I do) you take turns, and wait for the people who are on top to get sold out, and then you get yours after x amount of people have bought crowns

Like with many conflicting forces, both of these can't work at the same time.

My viewpoint is if we lower the cost of energy, more people will have more satisfaction in their equipment, and therefore be happier with the game, but the game won't last as long for them, but a decrease in value of energy will also make it so then some people can play forever, by repeating the same stuff over and over again.

So my solution to making lower energy prices, without focusing too much on the market (because the majority controls the market), is to either inflate the energy market, or increase the value of crowns by decreasing the amount of them within the market

However, i find this near impossible, due to dungeons bringing in more crowns than the market can get rid of, and the fact that some uneducated people are way too competitive and decide to make their price "the best price" (thus increasing prices) at all times, also, I'd prefer not to spend lots of my money to get something virtual, or to help a small internet community's economy.

In response to the previous post, i would hoard crowns to try to help the market, and hopefully buy energy when its cheap, and sell it when the condition is around what it is currently.