There needs to be a better alternative than buying energy, how bout....
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:36
I don't know, I am just not sure. I never ever came across a F2P game where it limits me on how long I could play in a day. There has to be a better alternative than having limited energy to use to play in the "arcade." I understand that the company has to make money somehow. But are they also trying to prevent players from falling into addiction in this game (lol)?
There has to be a better alternative. (Suggestion1:) Like how bout an example of using "crystal energy" allows P2P players get to buy exclusive member stuff, (like in maplestory) and leave "Regular Mist Energy" which could still be used points to craft stuff, buy extra crowns, etc. Because spending energy just to play in the arcade kind of sucks, especially since it is the main highlight of the game. Keep the "spend your energy" with buying extra crowns, or crafting items. I'm fine with that, just find a better alternative so members could play in the dungeons how ever long they want.
I don't know if there are other topics like mine, but Dungeon exploring is the main highlight of the game (Yeah, said it again! But it is true!), and 3 rings is pretty much limiting players to play in the arcade. I mean, if 3 Rings is trying to create a fun game that isn't addictive. I am fine with that! Then keep doing what your doing! But if your going to do that, at least do this:
- Have an Auction house. Haven Exchange or something! Why? Because most players will only play about an hour (Since that is how long it takes to use up all energy, either if it is by crafting stuff or playing in the arcade), then they would log off the game, to wait another day, therefore not leaving that large player-base to trade with a variety of people.
- Have a lot of Dungeon levels available. Only having about 4 open in the arcade is pretty much useless, if people are going to spend about an hour of gameplay.
- That is all I could think about right now.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 03:55
#2
The current CE system does
The current CE system does nothing to limit players from getting addicted - the ability to buy CE freely ensures you can simply spend money to get unlimited play time.
What the CE system DOES do it push players to use their time more effectively. In a typical MMO, time correlates almost perfectly to your rate of advancement. In Spiral Knights most players are capped to the same one or two hours of play time per night and therefore your progress is tied more accurately to how efficiently you use your limited dungeon runs each week. You have to pay money or sacrifice your crowns to get more time, so it is extremely important to not waste CE when it can be avoided.
The downside is this obviously limits how long you can play Spiral Knights, and is especially problematic if you are a player with large amounts of free time during the week to play a single game. But for me, somebody who only intends to drop an hour or less in the game per night, the system suits me absolutely perfectly.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 08:43
#3
no to cash shop, please
i simply hate them. The only one that i tolerate are those that sell only visual items. I really don't want to know that people have an advantage against me in a game because they are richier in real life (or have a rich parent). At least, with the system of CE, they will, more or less, have this advantage, but will need to battle the same to be strong and experienced in the game, so there is no chance of we getting those knuckleheads of another games that easilly level up to the max level, because they pay, but can't even answer where a newb city is, and still think that they are superior...
Just my opinion.
Resuming: No to any kind of cash shop that don't sell exclusivelly visual itens.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 08:56
#4
I agree with tao. Any kind of
I agree with tao. Any kind of "members only" cash vendor that would provide even the slightest gear advantage would be a horrible idea.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:58
#5
@Cien_Tao: "I really don't
@Cien_Tao: "I really don't want to know that people have an advantage against me in a game because they are richier in real life (or have a rich parent)."
I really don't want to know that people have an advantage against me in a game because they [have more spare time than me] in real life (or have [no job]).
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:48
#6
Well, it is impossible for me
Well, it is impossible for me to get enough crowns to buy another vial of energy (since people are at a race to get the crowns first). The only way I could get the money is if I play the arcade solo. That is no fun! Also, I can't even finish tier one with full 100pts of energy!
@ Cartesian - Not if the "Members only" thing was used in the right way. Like for example, people who are P2P, gets to receive the legendary items earlier than later.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:54
#7
Matoro, everyone in a group
Matoro, everyone in a group shares crowns.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:52
#8
What really? Because I
What really? Because I thought whoever stands on top of the crowns first, gets all of it. That is why people rush all the time in levels to get the loot first!
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:10
#9
Nope. Crowns, Heat, and
Nope. Crowns, Heat, and Tokens are given to everyone (AKA if you see a 50 crown piece everyone gets 50 crowns not 50/#ofplayers). Material drops are randomly distributed, and 1 time use items are first come first server (but go away when you leave the dungeon). It's not impossible to get enough, you should easily get 2.5-3k crowns from a fully T1 clear, plus mats plus another 100 or so from selling minerals.
A full clear of T1 gets you more or less enough crowns to buy another 100 energy. You might have to spend some time selling mats as well. Progression will be slow but you can live off of 100 energy for quite some time without any major expenditures.
It's a different model from the ones found in korean games, to be sure. I think it works a lot better, since it gives people a real incentive to pay rather than just tossing them frivolities. When I bought some energy during the preview I knew it was going to be worth it later down the road. And it has.