Spiral Knights - faust or gran faust?

faust or gran faust?

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Thu, 09/08/2011 - 16:49

The-Big-Wallet

Well i don't know if someone thought about this before but there's no point in making your faust a gran faust because there's technically no difference between the 4* faust and the 5* gran faust.

1º: the charge time for the gran faust is 7 seconds and the faust charge time is 5 secs. (and divine avenger is 5 secs also so idk why gran faust is slower)

2º: the bullet blade is almost the same in both faust and gran faust only that gran faust is bigger than the faust's but the charge time is larger so there's no point in it being bigger if its going to take you more time to charge it. ( and the fact that the divine avenger casts 3 bullet blades instead of 1)

3º: the damage dealt is more than faust (1 point in favor yay!) but why does it has to be the same than avenger if it has less bullet blades and a larger charge time? (not even mentioning the probability of cursing the user)

4º: the damage dealt by the gran faust's single bullet blade is exactly the same than the lesser bullet blades from the avenger... shudn't it be more damage
than avenger since it is a bigger bullet blade and it affects less foes?

maybe it'll be better if they enhance the damage dealt by the bullet blade of gran faust and reduce the chargin' time so it equals the divine avenger power.

so i just wanna know... what do you people think? should the game masters re-evaluate the stats of the gran faust or not?

and im sorry for my bad english.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 15:04

Miqueas

IDK never got to tier 3 or got one of these but....

does not the grand faust curses ? ( i mean the enemies too) have you thought of that?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:24

Kazham

I understand where your

I understand where your coming from, but yet I do not. Some of your logic is a little bit flawed.

1: The Charge time may be slower, it may not. I haven't really looked into it. Are you sure your using reliable facts here? Was the heat level different? Heal level effects charge time.
A Level 5 Faust has a reduced charge time, where a Level 1 Gran Faust does not.

2: The Charge Attack does more damage as an upgrade. In that as well, the DA does less damage then the Avenger's charge, but it is separated into three, that when added together, is the same as the Faust's charge. Except Faust can curse.

3: You keep going back to the charge time and the bullet blades. The blades on the charge are reduced for DA, because there are three of them. The damage of the two's charges are ruffly the same. This is the same as the last one.
Damage is increased significantly from the first one to the second one. Training Hall is not a viable place to test this.

4: Here you go again with the Bullet Blades. Is this your only argument? The normal avenger's is the same as the normal faust's. As with that, Gran Faust is equal to Divine Avenger, except Gran Faust has the chance to curse.

As a bonus, the chance to BE cursed by Gran Faust is greatly reduced from Faust. Gran Faust doesn't need a buff.

The only thing Three Rings should do is fix the speed on Faust/Gran Faust. The bars are significantly higher than (Divine) Avengers, yet it is not faster. It would be appreciated if you could either make it as fast as it says (I opt for this one!) or change the info. :)

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 18:26

Evilnut

I don't think it's fair to

I don't think it's fair to compare it to avenger line, since curse is an extremely powerful status.

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Gran_Faust
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Faust

Expand the damage tables and look at them. Grand Faust does a lot more than 1 extra damage at later stratums.

Also, charge time is less important for the Faust line... I mean, who'd charge it all the time unless you have a ton of curse resist?

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 19:09

Shidara

Legacy Username

The Gran Faust

To solve the issue with charge time, cross your fingers and roll a unique variant with Punch and hope for a decent CTR, or invest some time in King Krogmo's Coliseum and grab yourselves some Elite Sword Focus Modules. I only have one equipped and there's already a noticable difference in charge time.

Like Evilnut said, curse is extremely powerful. It does hundreds of damage every time the enemy performs certain actions, so you can curse one enemy and move on to another to let the cursed one kill itself. Curse also lasts for a long period of time, and regular swings can curse as well, the charge just has a higher probability of cursing which is useful to kill off powerful and healing mobs.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 13:34

KeniMorri

Legacy Username

I agree I think they should

I agree I think they should make the charge on par with the faust

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:03

Chris

Gran Faust does a lot more

Gran Faust does a lot more extra damage than Faust

This thread is idiotic.

Also, I've been destroying kids in lockdown with my GF, I can upload picture of me doing 4x as much damage as anybody else in the game.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 14:17

Miqueas

As i would like to see

As i would like to see lockdown pictures,you cant upload em thats violating the new MOST IMPORTAT rule of the test server: dont upload images, but it says to not make them public so its ok if you show it to friends or, post to photo bucket and send me link my IGN:Miqueas or Cookie-Freak

(sorry but theres nothing related to the thread in this post)

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