Spiral Knights - First thoughts

First thoughts

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Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:47

BehindCurtai

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Number one: Since you CAN work in as little as 600 vertical, why is the default a window as tall as your physical screen? (Doesn't even work on Microsoft Windows, let alone Apple Mac.).

Number two: I can see grass and trees. I survived a planetary fall. Why can't I jump down and explore?

Number three: Hold down the RMB to build a charge? That doesn't work for the keyboard -- I fire twice, or swing twice and move. Hey, it doesn't work for the mouse either -- what's up?

Number 4: Why am I always changing based on the mouse? That flies around -- and suddenly, I'm not even facing where I want to face.

Egads. IF I have to be keyboard to control myself -- and the first 2 minutes says yes -- then I want 100% keyboard -- including full "build up a charge". And if the starter weapons cannot build up a charge, fix the help text.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:51

BehindCurtai

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Why can I see a heart on the

Why can I see a heart on the ground, and be unable to pick it up? (This is in the area with the destructible plants)

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:53

BehindCurtai

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There is a horrible

There is a horrible lag/response issue. After breaking through the blocking plants, and walking up slowly, suddenly nothing responded to my keyboard for about 20 seconds -- and then, all of a sudden, I was in the middle of the 10 foot corridor cleaners (gelatinous cubes :-)

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:56

Kharnor

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You can't charge weapons

You can't charge weapons until they reach level 2. There's probably some unclear wording in the first tutorial area that needs looking at.

There's a key to make you face the same direction while moving with the mouse. C i think?

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:57

ViashinoMage

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For your third question, you

For your third question, you can't charge swords and guns unless they're at least level two.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:57

Cromendi

N1:- N2: It's not free free

N1:-
N2: It's not free free realm/don't want you to skip lvls now.
N3: You weapon need to be at least lv2 to charge.
N4: Can you reword the question please? If you mean you char isn't facing the direction of you mouse then something is seriously wrong here.

Heart Problem: They are health pick ups and not med kits, if you health is full then you won't be able to be healed by it.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 18:57

BehindCurtai

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So I'm always having to rely

So I'm always having to rely on the C key.
So I'm back to using the keyboard for everything.

Byebye mouse while playing.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:00

ViashinoMage

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I personally set it so that

I personally set it so that the left-clicking is attack and right-click is block. Then I walk around if WASD and use the mouse cursor to aim.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:01

BehindCurtai

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> Heart Problem: They are

> Heart Problem: They are health pick ups and not med kits, if you health is full then you won't be able to be healed by it.

So tell me something. No feedback is bad. And yea, later I found a sign post after killing the cubes saying "You can't pick them up if you're healthy."

But my first heart is before I can take damage.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:02

Kharnor

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Well you need the keyboard to

Well you need the keyboard to block/use hotkey items anyway. You could probably map all essential actions to mouse buttons (in the options menu, ESC) .

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:02

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BehindCurtai

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> Number 4: Why am I always

> Number 4: Why am I always changing based on the mouse? That flies around -- and suddenly, I'm not even facing where I want to face.

Reworded:

Any slight brush of the mouse as I move to the keyboard changes my facing, and my aim is off.

Result: I can't have the mouse anywhere where I might move it accidentally. So I can't use it at all.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:06

#11

Cromendi

@BehindCurtai If you mean

@BehindCurtai

If you mean those containers then those add on you max health instead of healing you, also there's a bug like thing where you take dmg and it won't really show..... I think it's something to be with that dmg isn't enough for half a bar. You can still pick up health in that condition.

Someone has already addressed the mouse thing and I do the same too, it's much easier to aim with mouse.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:04

#12

ViashinoMage

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So? Hearts drop all the time.

So? Hearts drop all the time. You don't need to be injured for them to drop.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:29

#13

BehindCurtai

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Alright, the graphics on the

Alright, the graphics on the overpass are neat. And, they tell me that the colors on this windows machine are badly not calibrated.

But please tell me that the 3d video card requirements are used for more than just this? I mean, so far, all the "what's happening" can be done with plain isometric YPP style graphics.

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* GET RID OF THE DESTRUCTABLE LANDSCAPE AND HIDDEN ITEMS **

If I can blast stuff to reveal hidden stuff, and there's no way to tell by looking what's hiding or not hiding, then I have to shoot everything. That makes the game slow and unfun.

At least have a "stand still, and look for flashing lights" or something. But having to shoot everything you walk past?

Yucky.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:41

#14

BehindCurtai

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Ok, it looks like only some

Ok, it looks like only some of the destructibles can be shot with the gun. And all of the "2x2 plants" go poof to the sword.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 19:47

#15

BehindCurtai

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Over by the campfire, there's

Over by the campfire, there's two NPC's that won't even say hello. How rude.

And ... hmm, I found 88 coin under all the trees and a few monsters (where do those coins come from? :-). And everything I can buy is 200.

Ah, geez, it's nice to know that the local authority is so helpful. They want people to help with exploring the planet, but you have to fund it yourself.

Hmm ... link to Dragon tales here :-)

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 20:04

#16

BehindCurtai

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Ok, so as you walk around,

Ok, so as you walk around, nothing in the background shows any parallax.

The clockwork gears seem to be "stationary" as they move around each other, no matter how far I move on the platforms of the training levels.

That implies very, very far away. And nothing is holding up the platform I'm walking on.

Hmm... Coruscant? If so, then can I safely jump off the platforms without railings? (or have I been reading too much darth and droids :-)

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 20:26

#17

BehindCurtai

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Alright, training level 1

Alright, training level 1 down.

Maybe up the difficulty a bit. I used no brains at all. No shields/defense at all. Ignored as many hearts as I could (still picked up some monster drops).

Could not die.

Too easy. Even the puppy guns.

So if one of the puppy guns can fire diagonally, why can't I? Yea, I know, breaks all the difficulty designs.

Seriously, though: Spiral knights so far looks like a spoof of the RPG game style.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 20:31

#18

aioli

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You've posted this many

You've posted this many comments and suggestions and you've just completed training level 1?

I'd say give the game a fair chance first. It is obvious it could still use some improvement; it is still in a testing phase. But I think you should wait before suggesting things like upping the difficulty a bit; you're only in the training grounds. That part is meant to be easy.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 20:35

#19

Rose

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Over by the campfire, there's

Over by the campfire, there's two NPC's that won't even say hello. How rude.

What? Really?

Anyway, welcome!

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 20:41

#20

Shango

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>So if one of the puppy guns

@ BehindCurtai

>So if one of the puppy guns can fire diagonally, why can't I? Yea, I know, breaks all the difficulty designs.

You can, if you use the mouse or a joypad, which I suggest doing.

>Seriously, though: Spiral knights so far looks like a spoof of the RPG game style.

I don't really understand what you mean, or why something like that would be bad. It's a real-time RPG, which are all the rage these days.

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 21:23

#21

BehindCurtai

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By spoof: It's using all the

By spoof:

It's using all the tried and annoying RPG cliches. You know, the type of thing that could make an all-blue article at TvTropes.

It's the sort of thing that [s]could[/s] should only be done as silly.

All three training levels down, and it's rebooting for a bug fix. So, lets find that dragon tales strip:

http://www.dragon-tails.com/archive.php?date=2006-05-07

Thu, 10/28/2010 - 21:25

#22

ViashinoMage

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Stop posting until you're

Stop posting until you're actually finished with the tutorial.

Fri, 10/29/2010 - 03:07

#23

Shroom

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This Isn't "Let's Play"

Dude, this forum isn't your personal "Let's Play". I can tell that you are playing a little, typing a sentence, then playing a little more, sometimes making a post, sometimes putting your train of thoughts in a single post, and sometimes making a whole thread about it.

Based on a lot of your "complaints" (if that's what they are), I could easily accuse you of trolling.

Fri, 10/29/2010 - 07:48

#24

Benamas

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FYI it's generally good forum

FYI it's generally good forum etiquette to edit a previous post when you have something new to say and nobody's responded, versus making a new post

the game documentation is a bit lacking (because it is a beta) but most of your questions are eventually answered in-game

mouse/keyboard TOGETHER or a modern gamepad (eg x360 controller) is the intended control method. if you have one of those fancy mice with the extra buttons that's different

again it's a beta and code changes are frequent so reboots are almost daily (which is good)

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 22:49

#25

Xcelestialneon

Gatorade is awesome not really?

I bow before the spiral ELDERS :s

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