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Fri, 09/09/2011 - 16:15
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer

Hello guys months ago i started a guild name ACTIVE with a goal to unite players from spiral knights who had 5 star gear and were skilled and most importantly Active to play with one another and become the envy of the spiral knight world. For a while it worked We became a top guild that had people constantly trying to get in. We had helped one another with prices, recipes, auction house prices, boasting, heat, and so on. It was fun till the members that were so active became not so active(including myself) and thus a revolving door ensued with new members constantly being taken in to replace the members who had fallen inactive. Leadership changes and member problems became frequent and thus we lost what had made us such a great guild. I have returned to help fix this problem and make this guild what it used to be.

Just so u guys get an idea i got a few pics.
http://i.imgur.com/ORO53.jpg a picture of our humble beginnings

and then us at our peak of our power http://i.imgur.com/5xJOR.jpg.
and some others http://i.imgur.com/7SIZ6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TbzxS.jpg

WE are starting fresh everyone in the old active are gone but i am determined to make this guild strong again. Requirements are the same 5 star geared and plenty of talent all new members will take a quick test to see ur skills.

If u are interested message me hollafamer
or post here i will contact u shortly.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 16:34
#1
biomechanika
Legacy Username
Okay, so let me get this

Okay, so let me get this straight.

You started a guild with the intention of allowing only people with the best gear and skills to join. This obviously led to only people with elite status being members in your guild. For some reason, you figured that having a bunch of people who thought they were the best players in Spiral Knights all in one place wouldn't lead to any kind of unrest or intra-guild issues. On top of this, there was boasting about the guild being the best (see "peak of our power"), which led to many guild members being unhappy, which in turn created these guild problems you talk about. To solve this problem, your solution is to dissolve the guild entirely, and make a completely new guild by re-recruiting members as you see fit?

Why would anyone want to subject themselves to this? There would be nothing stopping this from happening again; nothing to guarantee that at any time, I could be kicked from a guild because my guild leader wanted to "start fresh" or "fix a problem".

No thanks.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 16:46
#2
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
biomechanika

I like to think by having these requirements it made the game better players would look to improve themselves to try to get in the guild which i believe helps the game. Of course there is nothing to prove one guild is better then the other i know this. I actually wanted to do a major cleanup and removed everyone but the people i knew were active and good players. Then I consulted everyone to invite everyone back who was booted. That way i can tell who is active and actually meet everyone in the guild as well. It was never my intention to boot everyone and then never invite them back. Since the game lacks a way to tell u who is active and who isn't i thought that was the best way rather they going thru every member and saying is he active have u played with him. This is a recruitment thread if u don't want in please keep it to yourself i understand u got an opinion but no need to voice it here in guild recruitment.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 17:36
#3
Cobriliant's picture
Cobriliant
An Account of Active

Let me explain this to you biomechanika.

When Hollafamer, Dhobby, and Lowercase made this guild, it was designed to be a top guild of close friends. As new people were invited the guild became very close and very strong. Only the best were allowed in and as such Active became one of the best guilds out there. But as you may or may not know, the endgame can become boring, so boring that it can lead to people quitting. Now this is where the logic breaks. By being an exclusive endgame guild while at the same time trying to retain members and form strong friendships, Active signed its own death warrant. Over time, many of Active's elite players, Dhobby, Uuaa, swifter, etc. quit the game. This left Hollafamer in a place where he was forced to continually recruit to balance this out.

Now we enter chapter two of Active. Another guild, Corps Meltdown was also built up of the elite. I dont know if they were suffering similar problems to Active, but i dont doubt it. So Hollafamer the GM of Active and Heron, the GM of Corps merged to form a larger, and more powerful Active. This worked fine and it seemed all was good.

Then we hit chapter three. Hollafamer himself, went inactive and "quit" the game. He had reached the limit this game had to offer and despite the good friends he had made in Active he had no reason to continue spending his time at the AH and continuously running Vana. Now when he left, Heron and the other officers of Active took it upon themselves to continue to maintain this legendary guild. They continued recruitment and made sure that the guild was filled at 99 spots and making sure that most of the 99 were active players (a few spots were left for player who had quit but retained their legendary status as amazing players and friends, uuaa among them).

And then today. The beginning of chapter four. Hollafamer returned to Spiral knights and looked at his guild. Of 99 players, he knew maybe 10 to 15 of them. Counter to his original intentions of creating a close knit guild filled with the best, he had the best guild built of players that he didnt know anymore. In essence, Active had moved on without him. Hollafamer looked for a way back to the olden times when Active was extremely close knit and thats why he choose to do what he did.

I'm not going to comment on his decision to kick all players he didnt know and reinvite one at a time, but thats what he did. Other players such as Heron who had a right to GM too and had spent countless hours working hard to recruit only the best felt they had been slapped in the face by Hollafamer. They took it upon themselves to right things, and they re-seperate Corps Meltdown and Active. Now Hollafamer is rebuilding Active slowly but surely on his own, and Heron is leading what was Active under a new name.

Now since this in guild recruitment im going to say some things about Active.
Despite Hollafamer wish (at least i think it's his wish) to make active full with 99 players. It won't happen. Active will continue to rebuild, and then it will level out and maintain its players at around 50 to 60 people. Not because there wont be people who want to join, but rather because thats the limit to how many people Hollafamer will be able to interact with on a regular basis.
But dont look at this as a weakness. By joining Active, you are signing a contract to make friends. You will make many friends in a close knit community of the top players of Spiral Knights. And by no means base Hollafamer's GM skills on what he did today. He is an amazing GM who is dedicated to his guild. You will learn a lot in this guild, and you will enjoy the time you spend in this guild.

--Cobriliant

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 20:00
#4
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
dang

thks for that impressive rundown there man got to say u are quite a pro on ur active history.

Fri, 09/09/2011 - 21:56
#5
Boxhead
Hollafamer is back! didn't

Hollafamer is back! didn't know that Active had a nice history. thanks for the post Cobriliant and WB Holla.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 01:25
#6
RubyEclipse
Legacy Username
Best of luck on your plans to

Best of luck on your plans to rebuild. : )

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 07:33
#7
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
What Dark Ritual?

Good to see you back Holla. Maybe we can actually run some FSC runs now, you were on my friends list after you bought my max shadow wolver cap for 15k CR wayyyyyyy back. :(

Anyway, hopin I can actually run some with you now.

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 11:54
#8
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
thks

Thks bigfoot and ruby

Btw guys at 14 members now all guys are battle tested everything is going well

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 17:54
#9
Guardianknight's picture
Guardianknight
Nice

@Cobriliant: That was awsome.
You should make a movie..."Active".

@hollafamer:
Welcome back to SK and good luck with everything.

Best regards,

The one and only, Guardianknight.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 17:52
#10
Rommil's picture
Rommil
served no purpse

i'm deleting this post b/c it serves no purpose.

cobrilliant served to explain the situation handedly. I do wish holla would edit his original post so that it doesn't imply that our wonderful GMs (heron, cootie, and pooet) and us diligent officers failed to uphold the standard that was set for this guild. Since upon his return, it was STILL the preeminent guild filled with active members, just ones that he didn't know.

Best of luck to you hollafamer. Don't let the bitterness of the miscommunication that occurred serve to chase you away. Hollafamer is a good player, a cool person, and a quality guild master. I'm sure if he had it to do over again, everything would be handled in a better manner.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:32
#11
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
Rommil

I didn't boot the leadership I kept all u guys nor did i point any fingers. Plus i invited everyone who was kicked, back as well. You guys decided to leave and start your own guild Unity and left me by myself. Which i was fine with cause i don't want anyone in my guild who doesn't want to be there. Not one of you were loyal besides a select few(you know who u are), which makes me wonder why i gave my stuff and ce away to people who never deserved it anyways, also why i promoted such people as leaders of Active. I don't care about how many members the guild had i remember when the guild was at 25 and it was a ten times better guild then at 99. However i wish Unity luck and I hope it thrives because i am a good guy and I hold no grudges. Might have been a little crazy what i did I don't deny that. Had I gotten the chance to do it again u bet your A@@ i would have, especially after finding out the majority of you were never loyal. This thread holds purpose because ACTIVE will be rebuilt just as I built it before with the help of two great GM's. I am glad this happen because i found out what my guild truly turn into. If you want Active to thrive again and if your looking for a guild that takes no bullcrap and truly benefits u then seek me out. Now that I got that out of my system lets play :).

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:37
#12
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
What Dark Ritual?

Yeh, was funny today, I log on and see 50 People from Actove in a new guild called Unity. Best of luck to you folks.

@Hollafamer

I'm still sad/confused why I sold you my MAX shadow wolver cap? or was it coat? wayyyyyyy back when u had just started fir 15k cr, then you were selling it for 5k CE, and then I said, hmph! Good luck with that.

/sigh
/sad
/e Bigfootm is very confused.
/-_-
/:(

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:49
#13
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
bigfootm

'I don't think i was selling it for 5kce bigfootm and also i had both and i sold it for a fair price. U wearn't poor then as well.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 19:51
#14
Bigfootm's picture
Bigfootm
What Dark Ritual?

I'm not complaining or anything, and ya, I was poor. I thought 15k CR was a TON.

I know you were only selling the item I sold you.

All I was saying is that lookin back at that day, I just laugh.

Sun, 09/11/2011 - 20:02
#15
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
Confused

Bigfootm u confuse me lol. Anyways thanks for the encouragement everyone I really appreciate it i am glad i didn't burn any bridges or make anyone pissed off. This is a guild recruitment page so please only if u are looking to join please comment here or it takes away from the other threads.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 10:44
#16
Pookycakes's picture
Pookycakes
Well haloo Holla, It's true

Well haloo Holla,

It's true that you left the leadership intact, when i came back all GMs and Officers were still here. No one is denying that Holla.

However the veterans, members and recruits didn't deserve the massive kicking spree you went on 5 mins after rejoining, and that without even consulting one of us.

You were the one away for 3 months, thus explaining why you didn't know most of the people in Active when you came back. But funny enough, did you know that all the people you've kicked were friends ? They also knew each other and played together on a daily basis while you were away. You were among the very few inactive members.

You've also a bewildering idea of "our" sense of loyalty. I'm really sorry but "you" alone are not Active.

The remaining GMs and Officers' loyalty was to the group of players we've all recruited. Booting every single one of them out of the guild was what made us leave "you".

We were loyal to what made Active, to the 85 members and friends you've decided to kick, not to a guild name or its GM.

We have no hard feelings though, we've rebuilt the core of Active under Unity and you got the clean up you wanted so badly. Everything seems fine for everyone.

I wish you luck for your guild, i'm sure you'll do fine :)

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 07:17
#17
iAM2FoREAL
Legacy Username
OVOXO. Your Girlfriend at My Next Show.

Nicely said cootie.
So I take a vacation for 3 and a half weeks, and the guild falls apart.
Officially making a guild called lol

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 07:23
#18
iAM2FoREAL
Legacy Username
.

< OVOXO > - Coming 2011.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 09:00
#19
Lemon-Neko's picture
Lemon-Neko
simply amazing

It's great to see all these big names. I wish I could join active but I'm forever a 4* player, and I'm not as active as I would like to be. And kudos to cobriliant, sounded like something from cradle true spiral story (reference to E true Hollywood story). I should've taken a screen cap of my star crossed run in with cootiecakes. I caught you checking out a gate with some guildmates. Just trolling the forums at work.

Mon, 09/12/2011 - 11:58
#20
Kngstere
Can you consider me? Kngster

Can you consider me? Kngster - IGN

Tue, 09/13/2011 - 14:54
#21
Hollafamer's picture
Hollafamer
update

Letting all players know I am searching for a new right hand man to help me grow and improve the guild. When i created Active i had the benefit of having two great Gms lending me a hand. While one is returning in the very near future i could still use a hand during his absence. Candidates who want to apply please list their experience in this thread or mail me.

*all candidates have a 5 star helm/amour/shield/ and weapon

Things that will help
If u created a guild or were a gm in another guild
if u are an officer aspiring to be a Gm
If u are on my friend's list

Things to list
How active u are
How long u have been playing
What u can bring to the table as my new gm
Why u want to be a Gm for active

All candidates will be considered and interviewed because i don't hand out power to just anyone.

Thks and GL
Hollafamer

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