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Guns, bushes, and frozen players.

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Thu, 04/07/2011 - 09:33
erogath
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Please for the love of all things holy allow guns to destroy the small bushes without having to use a wall to splash damage it. This is half the reason I use a gun/sword combination or I would honestly go dual guns more often. As for players, what possible reason could there be for a gun to not free a frozen player when I wildly swinging sword can? I would be extremely convenient and I can't think of any way that it would break the balance of the game.

Spiral Knights is designed to be played entirely without guns, there are infinitely replenished pots for triggering gates, and even the addition of fire pots in certain stages where swords become less useful. I don't want this to turn into a sword vs. guns thread, I just want to be able to have the same comforts as a swordsman with my guns without being REQUIRED to carry a sword/bomb or buy an extra weapon slot for it.

They're just bushes...bushes filled with hearts.

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 11:00
#1
Franpa
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Guns kill them, you just

Guns kill them, you just gotta shoot so the bullet ends on top of the bush :P

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 15:20
#2
erogath
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i think you are confused with

i think you are confused with the splash dmg associated with a bush near a wall and/or mob/box

Fri, 04/08/2011 - 00:53
#3
cheeserito
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My autogun doesn't have any

My autogun doesn't have any problems with bushes. The tiny grass, yes. But the big bushes I can take down no problem, without being near a wall or a box.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 17:51
#4
erogath
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I'm referring to the small

I'm referring to the small bushes, maybe it's grass idk.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 17:53
#5
erogath
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I think this would ease the

I think this would ease the player dislike of the freeze situation as well, allowing gunners to unlock them. This would provide a fairly pivotal support role in ice stages besides dps. Sometimes you can't make it to a player to unfreeze them and shooting them would just work out better for everyone (how often can you say that?).

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 18:07
#6
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Merethif
Bush aiming

You can destroy small bushes with gun but you have to hit it exactly from weapon maximum range (a bullet have to ends its flight exactly above bush). It's not convenient but it works.

Sun, 04/10/2011 - 19:39
#7
erogath
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yea... that isn't really a

yea... that isn't really a solution I'm willing to accept =\

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 19:34
#8
erogath
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am I really the only gunner

am I really the only gunner annoyed with this? And, even after all the complaints about being frozen?

Thu, 04/21/2011 - 22:21
#9
Sirrocco
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I find I agree with this,

I find I agree with this, even though I primarily use swords. There really isn't any good reason to prevent gunners from having these little conveniences.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 00:08
#10
culture
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Bomber

I'm a bomber and surprised guns behave in that manner. Should definitely be tweaked.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 07:33
#11
meowreka
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why would you shoot a bush

why would you shoot a bush that is so silly

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 10:21
#12
RamuneDrink
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why would you cut a bush that

why would you cut a bush that is so silly

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 10:25
#13
RamuneDrink
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K, sorry for the trolling

K, sorry for the trolling there...

I have to agree. While shooting a bush is completely unrealistic, since when is attacking a frozen player with a sword a good idea? It is, after all, a game. If someone wants to dual wield guns, then why not let them? It seems like the bushes not breaking is just a physics mechanic taken to the point of prejudice against guns. In LoZ you CAN use your arrows to break bushes. Heck, you can often use only the bow to beat the whole game if you want. For bombs (if you have enough) it's the same way. So why slant the game towards sword users?

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 10:57
#14
Mettius
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The game is insanely biased

The game is insanely biased to swords, and guns need buffs in general. I'm not saying they aren't useful, but they do need more advantages and/or fewer drawbacks.

Fri, 04/22/2011 - 12:01
#15
erogath
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I'm a gunner and I'm here to

I'm a gunner and I'm here to stay, take it or leave it!

...think about the hearts.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 17:07
#16
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Nikith
swords are beast but should

swords are beast but should be slightly nerfed
gun should be buffed. i dont kno why they haven't buffed it yet

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 18:58
#17
Tovvok
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ON another note

Can we be allowed to move a bit while shooting its a tad frustrating that i can dodge some attacks by swinging my sword and getting that little forward lunge but when i shoot i am a friggin statue I use an auto gun so it might be a sacrifice due to the automatic capabilities but w/e rant rant RANT!

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