Its very very boring when u have no Energy or Mist Energy.... U dont get do anything than just either playing something else or just idle around :/. I wish U dont need energy when u go Dungeoneering...
Right now at 18:03 me and my friend Blazefury are just walking around town waiting for Energy.... You guys should propably change the Mist Energy's Regenerator bcoz its very slow and when ur a newbie (im not saying a noob) u lose all your energy u have nothing to do...
Mystraven and Blazefury
Oh that's good to know. I didn't know you could buy energy with crowns. Now if only I could get my hands on some...
Actually if you click on the little (-) button next to the CE count, you can buy CE from there, don't need to go to the NPC in town.
Ye but wehn u buy Crystal Energy with ur Crowns it costs alot >:O so i just wait and wait until its mai brothers turn then tommorow i only have about 78 then it wastes then wait and wait then wait another day
Actually crystal energy doesn't cost you crowns, you just make less crowns when you depend on it. 100 crystal energy used for tier 1 runs will net you 5k in crowns alone, plus you get another 5k worth of materials and minerals. I cannot imagine making less than 8k with 100 crystal energy. 100 crystal energy will cost you 2k-2.5k, so you will profit. If you use your crystal energy for crafting, as long as you craft something people will buy, like cutters or wolvers, you will profit yet again. Don't hesitate to buy crystal energy with crowns, it will always be worth it.
@lunaris24
The problem you seem to be having is common in F2P model games. You as a player have two choices to invest in this game, time or money. SK doesn't have anything exclusive to P2P players, because the market allows you access to real money currency for in-game currency. The downside is that you have to invest alot more time than the P2P players to get the same results because your in game currency grows at a much slower rate due to having to cycle it to CE. It's just a time vs money thing which is common in F2P games. Better than the F2P model that locks free players out of content, or gives super power items only to those who buy them outright.
any one play monatospirit that game died cause they tryed to do something just like this over time people will lose interest and the devs wont care now u can say what u want to me but ive seen this happen and i loved that game and this one but its just gonna go down the road of destruction o well
I really don't think thats the case here with spiral knights, I have not once had to quit playing for lack of energy and have yet to spend any real cash.
I think that running dungeons should still cost energy. However, I think it would be better if mist energy replenished a little faster or dungeons cost a bit less. Just enough to get a few more hours of play in but not so much that it won't keep people for wanting to buy energy. You still have to anyway if you want to craft the better gear. That and people already, or at least most, will be paying 500 energy a month just to have 4 weapon slots open and probably more if they want trinkets too.
I would like there to be a free dungeon that does not award crowns, heat or materials but does offer players a chance to goof off with friends or kill some time waiting for energy to regenerate. Perhaps set it up with optional difficulty settings and great runs qualify for a leaderboard position.
SirNiko, that is an excellent idea. Maybe a hard dungeon with a leaderboard for speedrun times?
Aye, while I feel the energy system is currently workable for both P2P and F2P players, I still do dislike how there is nothing for players to do besides socializing when their energy is out. Spiral Knight's system is unique in that it doesn't limit the things you can do (whether you pay or not, you can do anything), but rather, it limits the amount of game play you can sustain. Most F2P games that I can recall do this the other way around - you can play as long as you want, but you can't necessarily do everything or have all of the perks of a payed player. I've just never liked the idea of limiting the time a player can play, but it makes sense and it is entirely feasible for players to play a long while without paying, they just have to be frugal.
SirNiko's idea is quite excellent, though!
I think you should get energy every 5 or 7 minutes or something. Because waiting 15 minutes per energy takes to long.
@ pikk15 - I hope this game doesn't die. I like the gameplay at this game. But I hate the energy mechanics in this game! Lol!
Cactiscat222
Aye, while I feel the energy system is currently workable for both P2P and F2P players, I still do dislike how there is nothing for players to do besides socializing when their energy is out.
I just don't get how you ever run out of energy. For the beginning you have an energy tank to help get you a couple of runs in and start the clycle of CE to agument your ME. you can do full clears solo in the starting gear for teir1, netting you 2.5-3k crowns (more than the current cost of 100 CE). Plus mats. Given that a run through doesn't cost 100 energy (60-70) you will get to the point of having a store of CE and crowns for crafting. There currently exists no barrier to continue play time. Simply how quickly you advance.
Hey! You don't have to use Mist Energy to go down into the clockworks. You can also use Crystal Energy, which is the number above your Mist Energy gauge. You can buy this with real money if you really feel the need, but you can also buy it using crowns, which are the in-game currency you get from killing things and exploring, along with selling extra materials you've picked up.
Since you've already used up your mist energy, I assume you've already been down into the clockworks a bit. What you need to do is go south from the arcade, and find an NPC with a blue circle with a bar through it on his or her face. Once there, you can put in offers to trade your crowns for Crystal Energy, and once you have that, you can go down into the clockworks again. Rinse and repeat.
Hope this helps!