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Improve the Treasure Vault.

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Tue, 09/13/2011 - 05:32
QuoteFanboy
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The treasure vault was nice, when CE was 2-3k and not 5.6k

Now you spend 10 CE, which is essentially 560, and I just calculated how much crowns I made there.

Guess what? It wasn't 560.

It feels like I'm wasting my time, and money, when I enter there. Sure, it's easy and fast, but it's meant to be the TREASURE VAULT. FORTUNE SMILES UPON THE GREEDY.

I'm expecting a bit more from it, to be honest. nothing game breaking like OH MAN A BAJILLION CROWNS, but something more "rewarding" nonetheless.

I mean when in tier 3 you can end up in the graveyard, a place that while isn't too scary is a much "worse" counterpart then the vault, it's funny to think about it.

Hell, if you can't do that much, just make it to where, when you enter it, it doesn't cost anything.

Tue, 09/13/2011 - 09:02
#1
Superuupper's picture
Superuupper
Well...

Well remember that vauts, like any other type of level, change forms in which it may have more or less crowns and or treasure boxes.
One of the Latest Vaults has only 2 areas with loot chests, ( the northwest and northeast corners ) and treasure boxes are always a random prize-giver. Once i got a crystal bomb drop though, not worth alot got me my ce's worth and more. And dont forget the tokens :)

But i see where your coming from with the entry fee but its a gamble sometimes to enter that horrid place :P

Tue, 09/13/2011 - 09:45
#2
QuoteFanboy
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I mean yeah i agree, you CAN

I mean yeah i agree, you CAN find something in there, but usually ti's a waste.

I just think they should be more "Oh yeah treasure vault!" instead of "oh hey cool at least this room goes by quickly"

Tue, 09/13/2011 - 11:54
#3
Foxhound3857
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There's more to the Treasure

There's more to the Treasure Vault then Crowns. You can almost always walk out of there with a Large/Jumbo mineral, find consumables without great risk of expending them on the same floor, and you have a great chance of finding spark tokens, which have a net gain in the long term.

Short-term, yeah, TV is a little lacking. Long term? No way; Treasure Vault rocks in that aspect.

Tue, 09/13/2011 - 16:50
#4
Antistone
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Actually, almost all levels

Actually, almost all levels on odd strata give less than 560 crowns, and really only act as a speed bump on the way to the clockwork terminal and even strata. But Treasure Vaults do give significantly less cash than other levels at the same depth.

I'm not impressed with the minerals or consumables in Treasure Vaults, either. There are many mineral columns, but they seem to be significantly worse average quality than in other levels, so that the final take seems to be about the same as most others (besides, even a huge mineral only sells for about 18 crowns). And Vaults give far, far fewer consumables than most levels; you may not use any, but your accumulation is still worse than conservative play on most levels, plus you risk losing some if the Kleptolisks get lucky (they seem to drop whatever item they steal, but they steal an entire stack and only drop one).

Sparks are definitely worth considering, but I doubt I could convert them into crowns at better than 150cr/spark, and I wouldn't be surprised to get less. I'm not sure exactly what the average spark drops are on either Treasure Vaults or normal levels, but I'd estimate a difference of about 1-1.5. That might bring them up to par with normal levels, but definitely leaves them less lucrative than the Graveyards that always appear at the same depth, so they're never what I'm hoping to get when I step onto a random elevator.

If Treasure Vaults are supposed to balance out Graveyards, I suppose they may be doing their job--though perhaps not in the way that the designers intended.

They're definitely far closer to the average than Arenas, though--and if Arenas are supposedly justified on the basis of difficulty, then Treasure Vaults are similarly justified on lack of difficulty. Rebalancing Arenas strikes me as a far larger issue, though the rewards on all levels probably ought to be adjusted as part of a single initiative.

Wed, 09/14/2011 - 14:47
#5
Psychorazer
Agreed

Said it before and say it again. Yea its easy and relaxing, but effectively useless. I'd rather do the graveyard for joy kicks than kick over boxes in the vault that give me less. I mean, at least 1k worth of cr in there would make me happy. Don't care about heat.

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 14:18
#6
MacaroonBomb
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CE in the boxes?

My idea for making TVs worth the 10 energy it cost to get in? Make CE available from treasure boxes. "Nothing game breaking like OH MAN A BAJILLION" CE, but like 3-15 or something. And it would be somewhat rare, too, probably around the same as a spark token. Also, yes, more boxes would be nice too.

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